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Is Bergevin Next

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Julien, Muller, Waite have all been fired in the past weeks.
Is Bergevin next?

Im interested in hearing other habs fans opinions on Berg and the teams position leave them thoughts in the comments

Here are my thoughts: Just like Vancouver, Montreal has been in the middle of a rebuild when we went on a hot streak (the bubble and the 7-1-1 start) and Vancouver all of last year. I think people forget that both teams were still in the middle of a rebuild and since both teams went on promising hot streaks, people started setting expectations sky high for them. After a good year last season, Vancouver has fallen back to earth, back in their sort of rebuild. I think MTL is the same kind of situation. This might not make any sense but its hard to put into words.

dear capfriendly, dont move this thread it has a trade on it

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im against him being fired btw
i think he knows what he is doing and he deserves to be with the team he built in the future
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:00 p.m.
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@Campabee @HabsFan9 @GMs

for some reason i can only tag 3
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:02 p.m.
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He does well with what he has. People blame him for the lack of success, but if the management allowed him to do a proper rebuild a few years ago, it would be a more successful team.
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
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After 8 years it's his team. Not much accomplished. Doesn't seem to able the right coaches as he fires them. He'll be at the cap next season and just might miss the playoffs this year. I don't see why he deserves to keep his job.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:04 p.m.
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fire him

we need a cup before weber and price retire and with this team we are far from one
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:04 p.m.
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Nope. And I’ll tell you why.... look at what he has been doing. Yah there’s has been some bad things like Edmundson, however he has done plenty good things for this team! Allen, Toffoli, Anderson. He’s doing well, just need to be patient for Kotkaniemi, and Suzuki to develop into better more skilled players, and hope Romonov can turn into a good defence man!
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:06 p.m.
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Nope. And I’ll tell you why.... look at what he has been doing. Yah there’s has been some bad things like Edmundson, however he has done plenty good things for this team! Allen, Toffoli, Anderson. He’s doing well, just need to be patient for Kotkaniemi, and Suzuki to develop into better more skilled players, and hope Romonov can turn into a good defence man!


Edmundson’s probably been our 2nd best defenseman this year. So that signing hasn’t turned out poorly at all.
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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Edmundson’s probably been our 2nd best defenseman this year. So that signing hasn’t turned out poorly at all.


Okay thanks I wasn’t completely sure about that one. I know he was bad before the signing so I was sure he still is.
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Nope. And I’ll tell you why.... look at what he has been doing. Yah there’s has been some bad things like Edmundson, however he has done plenty good things for this team! Allen, Toffoli, Anderson. He’s doing well, just need to be patient for Kotkaniemi, and Suzuki to develop into better more skilled players, and hope Romonov can turn into a good defence man!


Edmundson is actually a good move, my man.
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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I can almost guarantee he’s on the hot seat. He fired the coach which no one thought he would then the goalie coach. The pressure is on. I’d almost guarantee that Caufield gets called up this year. Here’s the problem. We have a tone of guys locked up for the foreseeable future. So what does a new gm accomplish? Is there an offseason move to fix this team? Probably not. Patience is key. But I have a feeling that based on the firings if we don’t make the playoffs he’s done
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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There should be a middle option of "He's probably next, but it's not going to be this year".

I think they're certainly on a decent track, but Tof and Anderson scoring at over a goal per game pace for the original hot streak at the start of the season was bound to catch up. Only thing that worries me for the Habs is that it seems unlikely that the progression of the young guys will outpace the regression of the older guys, which could leave them in that weird middle ground.
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Edmundson is actually a good move, my man.



Yes I apologize... he was bad before so I was guessing he was still bad.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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After 8 years it's his team. Not much accomplished. Doesn't seem to able the right coaches as he fires them. He'll be at the cap next season and just might miss the playoffs this year. I don't see why he deserves to keep his job.


He's done more than what we could have expected for a GM with such a short leash. He's not the problem. The Molsons not being able to commit to a real rebuild is.
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.
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Yeah, it would be ridiculous to fire Bergevin. He’s only made 2 poor moves in his entire tenure, and one of those was only bad because of unfortunate injuries and Chicago having a good scouting staff. He’s put this team in a great position to succeed, and we’re still comfortably in a playoff spot even after just getting out of a terrible stretch.

The future is bright, and there’s no one better than Bergevin to steer the ship.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
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Yeah, it would be ridiculous to fire Bergevin. He’s only made 2 poor moves in his entire tenure, and one of those was only bad because of unfortunate injuries and Chicago having a good scouting staff. He’s put this team in a great position to succeed, and we’re still comfortably in a playoff spot even after just getting out of a terrible stretch.

The future is bright, and there’s no one better than Bergevin to steer the ship.


Assuming the two are Shaw and Drouin trades?
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.
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he's done very well in the past 3 years id say. before that it was a mess IMO. but that wasn't really "his team" but this team is. all the signing are his. all the moves are his. from the old guard, only gally and price are left. he's built a very good prospect pool which will benefit us for the next decade. if he was allowed to do a fire sales 4-5 years ago, we'd be ain a better position right now, but in mtl you cant do that. so he had to take the long route. if the team was still playing well like it did in the beginning of the season, he'd be GM of the year. his offseason moves were excellent and in fact its the original players that let him down, like Price and Danault. i love the prospect pool and we finally have 2 legit elite level centers that will only continue to get better. KK, suzuki, caufield, norlinder, romanov, ylonen, primeau will be key pieces for the next decade and its all due to him. now if the habs miss the playoffs, i think he's gone, not due to his performance, rather because the owner spent a boat load of money in a pandemic.
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Assuming the two are Shaw and Drouin trades?


I wouldn’t consider the Shaw trade bad. You have to look at the picks not who they drafted. We might not have drafted debrincat, they might not have drafted debrincat. 2 seconds for a physical forward who won cups is a good trade to me
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I wouldn’t consider the Shaw trade bad. You have to look at the picks not who they drafted. We might not have drafted debrincat, they might not have drafted debrincat. 2 seconds for a physical forward who won cups is a good trade to me


what are the two bad trades ur talking about?
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:24 p.m.
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what are the two bad trades ur talking about?


Wasn’t me
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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I wouldn’t consider the Shaw trade bad. You have to look at the picks not who they drafted. We might not have drafted debrincat, they might not have drafted debrincat. 2 seconds for a physical forward who won cups is a good trade to me


It's not great either. At best it was okay. I was just wondering what moves @Kotkaniemi15 was thinking about. Maybe the Price extension.
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Wasn’t me


oh right my bad lol
Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:27 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Assuming the two are Shaw and Drouin trades?


I didn’t even think of the Drouin trade. I was talking about Shaw & Alzner. But yeah, the Drouin trade could be deemed bad, but I’m still glad we made it. Although that could be just because I really like Jo.
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.
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I didn’t even think of the Drouin trade. I was talking about Shaw & Alzner. But yeah, the Drouin trade could be deemed bad, but I’m still glad we made it. Although that could be just because I really like Jo.


Oh, Alzner, my mind was peaceful and you bring that up. I kinda asked for it though.
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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My thinking is give him 2 years. If the Habs make the playoffs both years and do well then he stays. If they miss this year and are the same next year fire him. I want him around, I think he knows how to build a team it's just hard on Montreal with media, and free agents not wanting to come it seems like. I like him and most his moves were good. I made a page where I reversed all the notable trades he made and there were not many bad ones.
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