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So Minnesota fans probably don’t like Strome and Chicago fans probably think Greenway isn’t the winger they want. And this would probably require a Dumba trade to be in the works for the expansion draft and there are some cap issues from the Minnesota side.

But Chicago apparently wants another NHL winger and Minnesota needs a center. They are the same age and on similar contracts. From the Minnesota perspective, I think Strome is the kind of center that can help get Fiala going. You could make arguments that Chicago needs to add or Minnesota needs to add so I’ll leave it as a 1 for 1.
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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I may be in the minority but I don't hate it
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:06 a.m.
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Bad for Minnesota
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:09 a.m.
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Bad for Minnesota


If this is a Strome is not a guy that could help the Wild, I can get behind that. But if it’s a trade value thing, what needs to be added? I’m in the boat the Greenway won’t be in Minnesota next year.
Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:11 a.m.
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If this is a Strome is not a guy that could help the Wild, I can get behind that. But if it’s a trade value thing, what needs to be added? I’m in the boat the Greenway won’t be in Minnesota next year.


Greenway is having a very good year this year, I think they’ll keep him tbh
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.
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Greenway is having a very good year this year, I think they’ll keep him tbh


I agree he’s having a year but can the Wild afford his next deal as a fringe top 6 guy? And doesn’t he get taken in expansion if you’re not comfortable moving Dumba? I’d love to keep him too but just thinking about what might make the Wild a better team.
Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.
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I agree he’s having a year but can the Wild afford his next deal as a fringe top 6 guy? And doesn’t he get taken in expansion if you’re not comfortable moving Dumba? I’d love to keep him too but just thinking about what might make the Wild a better team.


Honestly I think the wild leave dumb a unprotected, and they should tbh, he’s fell off, and it would probably help their cap situation. I don’t think they’re in a dire situation with Greenway. Sign him to a 1 year extension and see if he can repeat the year he’s been having
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.
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Strome has a higher upside so I say Minny adds.
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
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Strome has a higher upside so I say Minny adds.


I don’t think that’s unreasonable but as a base?
Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.
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Honestly I think the wild leave dumb a unprotected, and they should tbh, he’s fell off, and it would probably help their cap situation. I don’t think they’re in a dire situation with Greenway. Sign him to a 1 year extension and see if he can repeat the year he’s been having


Dumba has matured his game. He’s still on a 35 pt pace and his defensive game has improved. Greenway is signed through next year and eligible for arb after, probably looking at 3.5 or more and that’s a bit steep for me.
Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.
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I don’t think that’s unreasonable but as a base?


I’m not in love with the idea because we already have a player like Greenway in Nylander (minus the size). I don’t think he solves our problems at forward.
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:42 a.m.
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Hawks have too many LW'ers especially since he is a fringe top 6 guy. If he played on the right side it would be more intriguing
Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Strome has a higher upside so I say Minny adds.


That wouldn't be true! Minnesota gm didn't even want Vincent trocheck, or Sean Monahan. Minnesota doesn't need or want Dylan strome

Jordan greenway isn't available, or going anywhere. Come on now. Greenway is also leading wild in points
Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:45 a.m.
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Value is probably good. It's probably best to leave it as a 1 for 1. Not sure what Stromes results are at the dot but if they are above 50% that would be a bonus. I have also considered getting NY Strome because he is a better skater. I don't see any reason for either team to realistically expect the other to add.
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Dumba has matured his game. He’s still on a 35 pt pace and his defensive game has improved. Greenway is signed through next year and eligible for arb after, probably looking at 3.5 or more and that’s a bit steep for me.



Why do you act like this is your decision?

Also the fact is wild won't be trading for Dylan strome.

Guerin didn't trade for trocheck. He didn't want to trade for sean Monahan

Dylan strome has been bad for 2 years. Before being injured he was playing like trash. He played 19G with 4 goals , & 4 assosts.

Greenway has become a total beast. Even if greenway isn't on team next year, it wouldn't be to our rival Chicago
Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:48 a.m.
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Why do you act like this is your decision?

Also the fact is wild won't be trading for Dylan strome.

Guerin didn't trade for trocheck. He didn't want to trade for sean Monahan

Dylan strome has been bad for 2 years. Before being injured he was playing like trash. He played 19G with 4 goals , & 4 assosts.

Greenway has become a total beast. Even if greenway isn't on team next year, it wouldn't be to our rival Chicago


Sure buddy.
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Value is probably good. It's probably best to leave it as a 1 for 1. Not sure what Stromes results are at the dot but if they are above 50% that would be a bonus. I have also considered getting NY Strome because he is a better skater. I don't see any reason for either team to realistically expect the other to add.


He's injured. But dating back to last year, he wasn't good. He had 8 points before being injured this year. He had 8 points in 20 games

He was on market by Chicago. Dylan strome isn't better t hff an C's Guerin had rejected especially Sean Monahan
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:51 a.m.
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Sure buddy.


I mean according to you, yeah wild should trade greenway. Have no idea why. You don't have to believe me. There's been multiple reports by twin cities media Like dumba that Guerin sees Greenway as a special player, & it's why he was kept over other youngsters.

Actually if wild move on, it wouldn't be for Dylan strome
Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
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He's injured. But dating back to last year, he wasn't good. He had 8 points before being injured this year. He had 8 points in 20 games

He was on market by Chicago. Dylan strome isn't better t hff an C's Guerin had rejected especially Sean Monahan


Thing is, Strome is younger, cheaper, and doesn't cost Dumba. Strome has shown he can produce with a playmaker like Kane and Debrincat. Couple that with the fact that Fiala needs a playmaker with him, and I think there could be a match here.

P.S. lotta commas here, apologies.
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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Thing is, Strome is younger, cheaper, and doesn't cost Dumba. Strome has shown he can produce with a playmaker like Kane and Debrincat. Couple that with the fact that Fiala needs a playmaker with him, and I think there could be a match here.

P.S. lotta commas here, apologies.


I am really confused why you seem to have an issue with Jordan greenway. It's so weird. You put him in every trade.

Also you worry about expansion too much compared to wild GM whose not worrying, or sweating expansion
Mar. 16, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
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Quoting: BrodinCheerD
He's injured. But dating back to last year, he wasn't good. He had 8 points before being injured this year. He had 8 points in 20 games

He was on market by Chicago. Dylan strome isn't better t hff an C's Guerin had rejected especially Sean Monahan


Yeah I agree if rumors are true that Guerin didn't want Monahan then it is hard to see him being interested in Strome.
I can't judge Strome based on points, he is on a bad team. I know they are playing well in playoff position, but they aren't good, great young goalie though.
I'll say this Strome has always underwhelmed, he is still young but it's time to put it together. In that way Greenway might be paying too much for Strome. So I totally get your argument.
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.
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Thing is, Strome is younger, cheaper, and doesn't cost Dumba. Strome has shown he can produce with a playmaker like Kane and Debrincat. Couple that with the fact that Fiala needs a playmaker with him, and I think there could be a match here.

P.S. lotta commas here, apologies.


Boldy is the guy who helps Fiala but yes I would like to see Fiala get going now. I wonder what a package of Dumba and Greenway could return? It solves expansion draft issues and it should be a high value return. People on here love to hate on Dumba, because he isn't scoring, but defensively speaking he has been good this year and his transition game is solid he just misses the net more than we would like. I think NHL GMs still see that value.
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
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I am really confused why you seem to have an issue with Jordan greenway. It's so weird. You put him in every trade.

Also you worry about expansion too much compared to wild GM whose not worrying, or sweating expansion


I have nothing against anybody. Greenway, Dumba, or any other player. I made this because I had an idea of how the Wild could improve at an area they don't have lots of talent at by expending resources they have a lot of, being wingers. And apparently Chicago fans want to trade Strome for a winger. In order to get anything of value, you have to give something of value. Its ok to not like Strome, he's not a no brainer kind of player but I think it makes some sense for the WIld. And I think about expansion and future contracts because that is how a GM has to think.

End of the day, Minnesota needs centers. Minnesota has a lot of wingers. It makes sense to trade a winger for a center in that regard.
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Boldy is the guy who helps Fiala but yes I would like to see Fiala get going now. I wonder what a package of Dumba and Greenway could return? It solves expansion draft issues and it should be a high value return. People on here love to hate on Dumba, because he isn't scoring, but defensively speaking he has been good this year and his transition game is solid he just misses the net more than we would like. I think NHL GMs still see that value.


The way I value those 2 at the moment are a 1st and A/B prospect or top 6 forward with term for Dumba and a 1st and B/C prospect or a similarly aged center (Strome) for Greenway, as in that is what it would take to get them and not what someone is willing to pay. I think they get more separately and it is probably going to be difficult to move them together given its 8 mil in cap space. It depends what happens at the deadline but I'd bet that Dumba ends up on the Jets or the Flyers after the expansion draft. And I think his offensive game is just fine, he's still on pace for 35 pts and that's while he's been playing conservatively. The lack of PP production by the team is felt in his stat line more than anybody else, we need a PP1 with him on it.
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.
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This is a really interesting idea. I think it's a fair trade. Greenway has been fantastic this year and I think he will have the better career, but Strome plays a more valuable position. Ultimately I don't think we do this because Guerin wanted Greenway to step up and he has, so the optics would be poor. But I like the idea a lot.

On pairing him with Fiala, I'm not sure that would work. Strome has decent straight line speed but everything else about his skating is really poor. Fiala creates chances with his skating so it might be a mismatch, but I could be wrong since you pointed out he played well with Kane. If we did this I'd imagine we'd try to pair him with Zucc and Kap at first since they are succeeding with a poor skater in Rask.
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Mar. 16, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.
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Value is probably good. It's probably best to leave it as a 1 for 1. Not sure what Stromes results are at the dot but if they are above 50% that would be a bonus. I have also considered getting NY Strome because he is a better skater. I don't see any reason for either team to realistically expect the other to add.


He's at 44.6% which is worse than anyone on our team with more than 39 faceoffs (1.5 per game) other than Parise who is at 41.6%.
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