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Landeskog is a UFA, just wait to sign him until after the draft. His agent can always tell Seattle he won't sign with them and then he'd be a UFA July 1 free to resign with Colorado

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Landeskog is a UFA, just wait to sign him until after the draft. His agent can always tell Seattle he won't sign with them and then he'd be a UFA July 1 free to resign with Colorado

no..you dont do th at. You do not play chicken with your captain and arguable one of your most important fwds. Do not let him get to the legal tampering period. Big name UFAs who get that point do not come back and sign with their teams.

Its an unnecessary risk

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:26 p.m.

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Landeskog is a UFA, just wait to sign him until after the draft. His agent can always tell Seattle he won't sign with them and then he'd be a UFA July 1 free to resign with Colorado

It's certainly a possibility. This is meant to illustrate the worst case scenario. If they do that though then Seattle takes Graves and Sakic needs to figure out how to move one of Compher or Donskoi so he can re-sign Saad.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.

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All of the takes with the Rangers re-acquiring Ryan Graves crack me up. Tony D has a better chance of playing for the Rangers again.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:31 p.m.

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you can agree to a deal verbally, just dont sign it. if you don't trust him then what are you doing?

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:32 p.m.

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

you can agree to a deal verbally, just dont sign it. if you don't trust him then what are you doing?

if you have a deal in place, just sign it, dont mess around. Seattle could offer him 2-3m more than the Avs and tempt things.
Its just wreckless approach to a stately cup teams window, you dont take unnecessary chances.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:33 p.m.

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Quoting: coga16

so you don't trust your team captain. if he was interested in hearing that stuff, he would wait until the tampering period to sign anyways.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:34 p.m.

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All of the takes with the Rangers re-acquiring Ryan Graves crack me up. Tony D has a better chance of playing for the Rangers again.

Why? Seems like they could use a good LHD. Hajek might be okay, but it seems like an area they can upgrade. What am I missing?

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

so you don't trust your team captain. if he was interested in hearing that stuff, he would wait until the tampering period to sign anyways.

Thats his agents job to get him the best deal possible,
This is a business, if Seattle came in and offered him 9m aav, you dont think they go back to the Avs and ask them if they can increase their price.

Its just a dumb idea to let him go to tampering

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.

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Seattle is taking one of the Dmen. Even if EJ waives...it'll be graves. Otherwise it could be one of Graves, Girard, or Toews if EJ doesn't want to waive.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.

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Why? Seems like they could use a good LHD. Hajek might be okay, but it seems like an area they can upgrade. What am I missing?

GM pride. Not gonna sell a guy for peanuts you gave up, watch him bloom somewhere else (which may just be the perfect situation to over value him a ton) and then pay real assets to bring him back, especially knowing the player knows your org and knows you gave up on him. Just not a realistic scenario.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.

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Quoting: BSpadaro83

I would hope GM decisions are made with more consideration to the future, but you could be right. Someone will take him though, no doubt. Rangers were a low hanging fruit in this acgm, which was more about illustrating the loss of Burakovsky.

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.

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Seattle is taking one of the Dmen. Even if EJ waives...it'll be graves. Otherwise it could be one of Graves, Girard, or Toews if EJ doesn't want to waive.

There is no chance Girard will be available. I'd be thrilled if they opt for Graves over Burakovsky, as Colorado has plenty of LHD to absorb that loss. I don't see it that way though.

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:45 p.m.

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This. Do not give Seattle the opportunity to float $10m in front of Landeskog. They can easily afford to overpay on him and he'd be a perfect captain for an expansion franchise. Not worth the risk.

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.

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interesting idea. i think id just trade or buyout johnson before exposing bura but bura is replaceable. maybe seattle will take compher too if the avs agree to let them take bura.

hate the saad contract. 5 years is way to long. not a fan of tatar either. but there are always a few good free agent options.

not a big fan of bridging makar but he and his agent may choose that route.

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.

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Quoting: exo2769

Seattle is taking one of the Dmen. Even if EJ waives...it'll be graves. Otherwise it could be one of Graves, Girard, or Toews if EJ doesn't want to waive.

with the way graves is playing i could see them passing and just taking nuke or jost instead.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.

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Seattle is taking one of the Dmen. Even if EJ waives...it'll be graves. Otherwise it could be one of Graves, Girard, or Toews if EJ doesn't want to waive.

girard makar and Toews arent going anywhere, you can put a pin in that

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.

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All fair points. I hate the EJ buyout, as that means paying him when MacKinnon is due for his raise and when Makar is due his after the bridge (not to mention Byram and others). Just losing Bura is arguably more appealing than the buyout.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

then you're still stuck with johnsons contract for the next few years. neither option is that appealing. ideally the avs can trade him with a pick.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 1:06 p.m.

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then you're still stuck with johnsons contract for the next few years. neither option is that appealing. ideally the avs can trade him with a pick.

It's just two more years, meaning he's completely off the books when MacKinnon gets his raise. I think that's a big factor. Trading even with max retention and a sweetener is preferable to the buyout.

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.

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Quoting: Richard88

This. Do not give Seattle the opportunity to float $10m in front of Landeskog. They can easily afford to overpay on him and he'd be a perfect captain for an expansion franchise. Not worth the risk.

If he was interested in seeing what was out there he would simply not sign before the draft anyways

Mar. 18, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.

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Quoting: exo2769

Seattle is taking one of the Dmen. Even if EJ waives...it'll be graves. Otherwise it could be one of Graves, Girard, or Toews if EJ doesn't want to waive.

If he doesn't want to waive, I think they'd buy him out before exposing Girard or Toews lol.

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Mar. 18, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.

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Trade or buy out happens with EJ before this if he doesn't waive. Colorado are trying to build a rep of being decent to their players but there's only so far it can be pushed and in those circumstances that's what happens. This doesn't.

Mar. 18, 2021 at 3:18 p.m.

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