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Arizona whatchya say

Created by: treemos27
Initial Creation Date: Mar 20, 2021
Published: Mar 20 at 9:18
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Steep steep price. This gets it done though.
Whatchya think
Trades
TOR
  1. Kuemper, Darcy ($1,000,000 retained)
ARI
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Amirov, Rodion [Reserve List]
  4. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$79,649,741$0$0$1,850,259
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Galchenyuk, Alex
$1,050,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Thornton, Joe
$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Boyd, Travis
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
ARI
Kuemper, Darcy
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
$925,000 ($0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667 ($0)
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
$775,000 ($0)
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$725,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Mar 20 at 9:21
#1
Go Wings Go
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Talk about major overpay for Darcy Kuemper. shakes head
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Mar 20 at 9:22
#2
Joined: Feb 2021
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Yotes say yes before u have any chance to think it over
Mar 20 at 9:22
#3
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holy overpay
Mar 20 at 9:23
#4
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Voice of unreason
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Talk about major overpay for Darcy Kuemper. shakes head


Yup. But as a Wings fan, try to put yourself in the Leafs shoes...

They are a legit top 5 team in the NHL with a competent goalie.. Waste the season? or overpay for a legit chance at a cup? I dunno
Mar 20 at 9:24
#5
Thread Starter
Voice of unreason
Joined: May 2020
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Quoting: coleman27
Yotes say yes before u have any chance to think it over


Isn't Kuemper good?
Mar 20 at 9:24
#6
Thread Starter
Voice of unreason
Joined: May 2020
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Quoting: Sabres_Insider
holy overpay


Absolutely an overpay. Would still consider it at this point
Mar 20 at 9:27
#7
Ovchinnikov 137
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Overpay for a goalie who is injury prone. I would trade for him but not at that price.

Anderson + 1st + Liljegren
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Mar 20 at 9:32
#8
exo2769
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Likes: 3,502
Yes 1,000 times
Mar 20 at 9:34
#9
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 29,437
Likes: 6,903
Quoting: treemos27
Yup. But as a Wings fan, try to put yourself in the Leafs shoes...

They are a legit top 5 team in the NHL with a competent goalie.. Waste the season? or overpay for a legit chance at a cup? I dunno


It's doubtful that Andersen would even waive for Arizona, He's on a legit contender for his first time. Just don't see it happening.
Mar 20 at 9:34
#10
Thread Starter
Voice of unreason
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Overpay for a goalie who is injury prone. I would trade for him but not at that price.

Anderson + 1st + Liljegren


Do you think ARZ does that though... I think that would be close, but needs another piece. Thats the point.

Is it worth it to "overpay" if it actually gets your team the result you are looking for?
Mar 20 at 9:36
#11
exo2769
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
It's doubtful that Andersen would even waive for Arizona, He's on a legit contender for his first time. Just don't see it happening.


If Dubas wanted to play hardball...he could waive him...
Mar 20 at 9:36
#12
Thread Starter
Voice of unreason
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
It's doubtful that Andersen would even waive for Arizona, He's on a legit contender for his first time. Just don't see it happening.


He has a 10 team no trade list. Who knows if ARZ was on that list.
Mar 20 at 9:37
#13
goleafsgobaby
Joined: Feb 2021
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as a leafs fan.. lol
Mar 20 at 9:39
#14
Thread Starter
Voice of unreason
Joined: May 2020
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Quoting: goleafsgo7
as a leafs fan.. lol


I re-made the trade and removed Amirov. What do you think of that?
Liljegren, 1st, 2nd for Kuemper
Mar 20 at 9:42
#15
Hockey Fan13
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 3,233
Likes: 2,028
Really don't think Kuemper returns this. The Coyotes want picks. Goalies don't return this.
Leafs will win the Canadian division easily, so Dubas can be patient.
Coyotes won't sell until they are sure they are out of it. But they will sell, otherwise they will lose one of their goalies I. The expansion draft.
Mar 20 at 9:43
#16
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: treemos27
He has a 10 team no trade list. Who knows if ARZ was on that list.


Arizona hasn't been good these past few season, So i'd imagine that Arizona would be one of those 10 teams. but don't know for sure.
Mar 20 at 9:54
#17
Spammer
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No
Mar 20 at 10:34
#18
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Overpay for a goalie who is injury prone. I would trade for him but not at that price.

Anderson + 1st + Liljegren


Don't want Andersen. Already have Hill and Raanta. A 1st and Liljegren will do. More if you want retention....
Mar 20 at 10:36
#19
sensonfire
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Coyotes say "Thank you, come again!"
Mar 20 at 11:15
#20
Hurricane Waddell
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You can get injured goalies for much cheaper if that was your plan
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Mar 20 at 11:22
#21
MisstheWhalers
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Good trade for Arizona.
Mar 20 at 12:36
#22
Thread Starter
Voice of unreason
Joined: May 2020
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Quoting: Riley816
Don't want Andersen. Already have Hill and Raanta. A 1st and Liljegren will do. More if you want retention....


He's a throw-in otherwise the salaries don't work. Put him on waivers lol. I guess the Leafs could do that too
Mar 20 at 12:37
#23
Thread Starter
Voice of unreason
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Good trade for Arizona.


You don't think its a good deal for the Leafs? They are desperate for a better goalie
Mar 20 at 12:38
#24
Thread Starter
Voice of unreason
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Quoting: Caniac555
You can get injured goalies for much cheaper if that was your plan


I think Kuemper is really underrated right now, your comment being an example of this.
He is a top 10 goalie when healthy. I'd take that chance personally.
Mar 20 at 12:40
#25
Hurricane Waddell
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This trade is hardly a chance...it’s a return for a bonafide #1 goalie who would start 70% of a teams games.

Quoting: treemos27
I think Kuemper is really underrated right now, your comment being an example of this.
He is a top 10 goalie when healthy. I'd take that chance personally.
 
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