Overpay on Calgary deal and underpay on Az deal

Would like to keep Mikheyev even if it means giving up better futures.

The calgary trade is horrible. Not a fan of tkachuk. I would keep nylander over him in a 1 for 1.

At least you’re just playing around.

I don't see Flames taking this RN he is our future captain and we aren't trading him to a division rival. Only way I can see them trading him is if he wants out

LOL Flames would take that deal every single day of the week and I hate the Flames.

Why?

Tkachuk for Nylander is a downgrade for Calgary and the difference isn't a 26 year old winger that can't crack the line up, Calgary has enough of those plus a left D that would be a press box guy in Calgary right now plus a pick that will fall between 60-64 this year. That first won't be anything that replaces Tkachuk.

Nylander for Tkachuk is pretty close and that guy wants to go you a first and a 2nd and Dermott.

I’m a leafs and flames an. I wouldn’t do nylander for Tkachuk straight up.

Either way they are both very valuable and when people cant decide who is worth more it just goes to team needs. So those two are pretty much a wash in my eyes.

Tzachuk is good player, but don't know if that much of difference maker on the ice. He's known for notoriety not necessarily has production lately.

How is it close?

Calgary gets worse defensively, they get way easier to paly against, they lose almost 0.1 PPG, Tkachuk has more goals and assist than Nylander in less games, nearly every possession stat favours Tkachuk. Nylander is older and a UFA at the end of his deal, Tkachuk has the ability to be under team control for 9 more years, they're getting paid nearly the same right now.

Dermott wouldn't play.. and your not replacing Valimaki, Hanifin or Giordano for him, his deal is up at the end of the year and the Flames have prospects at LD that can slide in at a minumum deal behind Hanifin Valimaki, the 1st is next year and likely between 26-32, that doesn't help a team looking for impact players now, that leaves the Flames with another mediocre prospect that probably slides into a middle 6.

As you might have guessed from the title, I was trying to construct a team that answered the criticism that the Leafs are too soft. I wanted to see what a team with edgier players like Tkachuk, Garland, Simmonds, Kerfoot and Engvall would look like.

Funny that you wouldn't do Nylander for Tkachuk straight up and a Calgary fan apparently wouldn't do Tkachuk for Nylander straight up.

And it's okay to be wrong once in a while!

Over the last 2 years:

Nylander has more goals than tkachuk in less games not the other way around. 2 less points in 2 less games. Nylander does this in less minutes and less pp time. Nylander has better possession metrics than tkachuk. The only thing tkachuk is better at is being a pest.

Nylader:
339GP-98G-147A

Tkachuk:
326GP-102G-158A

Unless you know something that the NHL doesn't, you'd be wrong.

Nice analysis. Please re-read the first 5 words of my comment. Total career stats do not accurately represent a player today, these players are extremely comparable on the ice.

Why? I don't like Tkachuk (he's a dirty player who turtles instead of fighting), but he's clearly a better player than Nylander.

No way, my bad!

I still completely disagree, it's absolutely zero coincidence that the Leafs signed Tavares two years ago. The only thing Nylander is better at is being right handed.

Honestly I agree that tkachuk is better and he brings an element the leafs could use. However I just don’t think he’s better because of the reasons you brought up. I think nylander is a better goal scorer and transition player and honestly he’s been better than Tavares the last 2 years, that contract isn’t aging well. Leafs would probably need to add and Calgary isn’t trading Tkachuk at the end of the day though.

Oh for sure, it's one of those things you spend half a minute arguing about and then give your head a shake cause it's a made up website. I see your points, I disagree with a lot, is what it is!

Not even close on skill level. Nylander blows him away.

You should watch more flames games. I haven’t missed any and he really hasn’t looked good in any of them.

I mean, they usually get about the same amount of points, so not sure what you mean by skill. But if Nylander isn't scoring, he's not a useful player. Thachuk on the other hand will annoy the crap out of the other team for you. Even though I think he's a dirty player that really isn't that tough (he only goes up against players he knows he can beat), I can't deny he's a better player than Nylander overall.

How has that been working for the flames? Maybe motivating the other team isn’t the best idea.

Sure he has some points this year, now hop off hockey dB and watch him play. Standing around in the blue paint all game and in the pp should certainly net you some points.

He has looked clumsy and slow all season. Not very impressive.

When I see him play he's always doing annoying things that anger the other team. Also, Calgary is creeping toward the playoffs. But I haven't watched very many flames games because it's they're one of my "home" team so their games get blacked out. So maybe you are right, just what I've seen I'd rather have him over Nylander.

Your analysis of Tkachuk is about on par with your analysis of creeping towards he playoffs. They’ve lost 3 in a row. The last two to ottawa. I would say sliding not creeping and the wrong way.

The only player who disappoints me more than Tkachuk is Monahan.