Columbus isn't trading jones and they wouldnt have to retain salary if they wanted to.

read above they arent retaining any salary and i think if they would have to at least consider a package like that whether more needs to be added or what they feel, they have to at least consider it imo... question is whether Jones would agree to go to winnipeg

Not enough for Oleksiak. Fair value is a 2nd & mid-level prospect

Jets need this, would be tough to possibly only have Jones for 1.5 years, but I’m sure he would come to town for that at least, his dad was a journeyman nba player, so probably taught his son to be a pro at a early age. Tough thing will be if the Jets can’t come up with or not willing to ante up the 8x 9 plus for him longterm or if he has a specific city in mind for ufa. But with a flat cap, wpg should have a fair shot if it’s money related. Seattle with cap room a year into existence may have something to say though.

Columbus isn't going to trade Seth Jones unless he tells Jarmo that he isn't going to re-sign.

Yeah i wasnt sure on how to value oleksiak,, dont get too concerned with the value in that trade,, chevy should meet whatever that demand is so long as its reasonable... which i think your suggestion is

Ya trade deadline could be interesting with flat cap and expansion, I kind of wonder about klingberg,Schmidt,tanev, Jones, savard, and also the usual suspects in cities that don’t have much hope of playoffs. Just wonder when teams start looking at expansion plans and build for next season. Colombus is kind of interesting with a possible laine contract and even a coaching change might lead to some retool ideas on the fly.

There is zero chance the Jets give up Stanley, Perfetti and another 1st for a little over a year of Jones. Zero.

Adding on to this... Since you can't add signing conditions to trades anymore that is what the proposal is.

gotta give something to get something and either you dont know how good jones is or you dont see how close the jets are to getting over the hump...

jets have three young NHL calibre Left shot dmen right now, with morrissey locked up not all of them are going to play here....and secondly we dont need perfetti anymore... we need high end wingers for 55 and PLD moving forward those are alot easier to acquire in free agency and via trade when needed and we dont need that this year and possibly not even next if stastny re-ups with the jets at a lower price tag....

Jones is the missing piece.... if and it is a big IF ...if there is even the slightest chance he is available... chevy should stop at nothing to bring him to winnipeg... and for a year and half sure but if we're winning and he likes it here... resign him... again if it means you cant keep Copp or even Pionk, you deal with that then.... the jets window is wide open right now... why would you not push all your chips in?

Could the jets make the final four without Jones, yes possibly, but they arent beating vegas or colorado with that D and they sure aren't beating tampa if they get that far.... if the jets are serious about being a contender go for it at any cost this season

Yes, you have to give something to get something, but you don't build successful teams by ridiculously overpaying on trades. Peter Chiarelli loved to make bad trades like that and look what that did for him.

You may be living 3 years in the past. Jones is good, but hasn't been great for a couple years now. Would he be a help? Of course. Does one player guarantee the Jets a Stanley Cup or even advancing a round or two? Of course not. Hockey is a team game, it's not the NBA where the best player almost always wins.

Thinking we don't need Perfetti anymore is real short term thinking. Have you ever heard of injuries?
Or of some players production dripping due to age? Anyone can beat anyone come playoff time. Two seasons ago, during the regular season, everyone was awarding the Stanley Cup to Tampa. What happened then? Columbus walked all over them in the playoffs with an Institute team, so the "you'll never beat Tampa with this team" theory is a fallacy.

Anyway you look at it, cutting your own throat and sacrificing your team's future for an "all in" one time push with a player you'll have for just over one year, no matter how good a player, is foolish.

Funny I started a Jones to Winnipeg trade today.. Lol

Haven't posted it yet, not sure if I will or not, mine is a bit more generous from the Jets then this one is though, don't think my fellow Jets fans would like it but it's probably what it'd take for Columbus to even consider parting with Jones.

Ouch.

Jones has never had the opportunity to play behind 12 forwards like the jets have right now... he would be an absolute stud moving the puck behind that group...

We have arguably one of the 2 or three best goaltenders in the world right now... dont waste that by waiting for perfetti to be ready to lead us.

why worry about injuries or production dipping at this point, its not a problem until it is... of course upsets happen nothing is guaranteed but you give yourself the best chance to win period, especially with that forward group and that goaltender, do not waste this opportunity, could it blow up in your face sure, there are no guarantees... perfetti could get a concussion before he ever plays an nhl game and never play hockey again... no one can predict the future... what Chevy does know is that he has a window right now that most teams would kill for... go for it now

cutting our own throat by sacrificing our future? we've been patiently drafting and developing for a decade to get an opportunity like this... and its not like our core is old there is plenty of time to replace any prospect we have our system.

Would you really care if Stanley and Perfetti go on to have Hall of Fame careers for columbus if we win a stanley cup this year? i wouldn't... and again just so we're clear i'm not saying its a lock we win the stanley cup it never is but you take your best shot when you have the chance

any coincidence that his numbers dropped after the mass exodus in columbus??... you put him in the right setting and he will far exceed any of those numbers

Three year average. So its been bad for a while.

Could be worse.... could be the Canucks.

Well, it is a fun discussion topic anyways. I just think you're putting way too high of an expectation on the difference one player will make.

Check out Perfetti's numbers in the AHL, only two of his points have come at even strength, won't be surprised if he isn't a Jet till the 22-23 season, if he could be cashed in for Jones Chevy would have to consider it .

Perfetti isn’t even a year away from being drafted, in a non covid world he’ll be tearing up the OHL, usually prospects start in the AHL at 20 and he’s less NHL ready then his peers

So I’m completely happy he’s keeping up and putting up points

As for the trade wouldn’t do Jones for Perfetti one on one

Many thought he'd go 4th overall, some thought he might be able to make the team this year, he had a quiet World Junior Tournament, might take him a bit longer to make the Jets then originally thought, the Jets are in a cup window now, if Perfetti could land Jones they'd have to at least consider it.

Jets are not doing this. Jones is the most overrated player in the NHL. Most I would give up for him is a 2nd

Apparently cap friendly did not like my last reply to you even tho it was clearly just a joke LOL meant no harm by it...