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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 6, 2021
Published: Apr. 6, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
MTL
  1. Palmieri, Kyle ($2,275,000 retained)
  2. Wood, Miles ($1,000,000 retained)
NJD
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Norlinder, Mattias [Reserve List]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$70,441,309$0$3,137,500$11,058,691
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$50,000$50,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$735,000$735,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C
UFA - 1

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Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:46 a.m.
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Even though MTL has a lot of LD's in their system, I am not moving Norlinder. I am hearing too many good things about him.
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Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:50 a.m.
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Donc un joueur de location et un gars de quatrième ligne pour la modique somme d'un 1st, 2nd, 3rd, un joueur de middle-six et un prospect top-4 offensif? Lol
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Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Habs4ever
Even though MTL has a lot of LD's in their system, I am not moving Norlinder. I am hearing too many good things about him.


If I get a retained Wood I need to give something, unless you say that the picks are enough
Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:56 a.m.
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If I get a retained Wood I need to give something, unless you say that the picks are enough


I think you overpaid significantly,
Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: ColonelX
Donc un joueur de location et un gars de quatrième ligne pour la modique somme d'un 1st, 2nd, 3rd, un joueur de middle-six et un prospect top-4 offensif? Lol


Ça paraît gros mais Wood c'est un Byron offensif et Palmieri un autre Toffoli, je donne gros car le New Jersey retiendra énormément de masse dans cette transaction. Sans oublier que Armia est aussi joueur autonome. Pour Norlinder je crains qu'il ne demeure en Europe avec son équipe lui qui est déjà sous contrat l'an prochain.

On a suffisamment de choix au repêchage, et de jeunes talents en banque pour la suite, là je prépare une équipe de série et l'an prochain.
Apr. 6, 2021 at 10:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
I think you overpaid significantly,


What could be the best deal if we keep the salary retain?! (Norlinder and a 2nd less??)
Apr. 6, 2021 at 11:03 a.m.
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What could be the best deal if we keep the salary retain?! (Norlinder and a 2nd less??)


Armia + 1st + 3rd + B level prospect someone like Tuch, Mysak, Struble or Harris. The real issue is though we need a PM D man not another winger, we can call up Poehling, Yelonen, Caufield, Evans or Frolik.
Apr. 6, 2021 at 11:04 a.m.
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If I get a retained Wood I need to give something, unless you say that the picks are enough


I am not saying your trade is bad, I am suggesting you put up a different player than Norlinder. I am sure MTL has their prospects on a depth board, I would offer up a different player that is all.
Apr. 6, 2021 at 11:07 a.m.
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Quoting: Habs4ever
Even though MTL has a lot of LD's in their system, I am not moving Norlinder. I am hearing too many good things about him.


How good is Norlinder? I don't know too much about him
Apr. 6, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.
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How good is Norlinder? I don't know too much about him


why should I answer, you are the enemy? LOL

But seriously, I am hearing he has tremendous vision, he can make quick passes out of his zone. This is his first season playing in the top league over there, he is only 20 playing in a mens league. He is projected to be a top 4 d-man.
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Apr. 6, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.
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why should I answer, you are the enemy? LOL

But seriously, I am hearing he has tremendous vision, he can make quick passes out of his zone. This is his first season playing in the top league over there, he is only 20 playing in a mens league. He is projected to be a top 4 d-man.


I actually kinda like the Habs lol.

We'll take Norlinder then
Apr. 6, 2021 at 11:21 a.m.
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I actually kinda like the Habs lol.

We'll take Norlinder then


You are wise. They are finally going in the right direction and in the last 4 drafts they have picked some good players. This team should be good for the next ten years!
Apr. 6, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.
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Ok let's try this ... What would you prefer :

Armia Norlinder and a 3rd

Or

Armia 1st and 2nd

Or shall we ask for a rookie with Wood and Palmieri ??
Apr. 6, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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I don't see Montreal trading that many quality future pieces for a pending UFA and a 4th liner
Apr. 6, 2021 at 1:23 p.m.
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I don't see Montreal trading that many quality future pieces for a pending UFA and a 4th liner


What would be your version of this trade then??
Apr. 6, 2021 at 1:26 p.m.
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What would be your version of this trade then??


From Montreal? I don't think they should be offering anything close to that. I don't like the idea of a 4th place team in their division trading 1st round picks + quality prospects for a rental. Only way I'm doing that is if we are upgrading from Armia for example and giving NJ a 2nd round pick+ something small.
Apr. 6, 2021 at 1:27 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
From Montreal? I don't think they should be offering anything close to that. I don't like the idea of a 4th place team in their division trading 1st round picks + quality prospects for a rental. Only way I'm doing that is if we are upgrading from Armia for example and giving NJ a 2nd round pick+ something small.


So is Armia 2nd + 3rd vs wood (minus a million) + Palmieri (at 50%) can be ok??
Apr. 6, 2021 at 1:30 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
So is Armia 2nd + 3rd vs wood (minus a million) + Palmieri (at 50%) can be ok??


Miles Wood really isn't that good. I'd rather just trade Armia + 2nd for Palmieri? I doubt NJ would do that, but that's what I would be comfortable offering.
Apr. 6, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.
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Miles Wood really isn't that good. I'd rather just trade Armia + 2nd for Palmieri? I doubt NJ would do that, but that's what I would be comfortable offering.


Wood is a young speester (a younger Byron) and I value this type of player if I have to replace Lehkonen next year (contract issues)
Apr. 6, 2021 at 1:42 p.m.
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Wood is a young speester (a younger Byron) and I value this type of player if I have to replace Lehkonen next year (contract issues)


I can't say I watch him play a whole lot, but according to advanced analytics, it seems the only good point to his game is 5v5 offense, his defensive side of the game is atrocious, so I don't see him being a good fit on our defensive 4th line. Not to mention he's currently making 2.75 Million which is likely more than Lehkonen will get next year if we resign him.

*edit* just realized you retained 1M on his contract, but at 1.75, he's still not worth it. I'd rather play a guy from Laval
Apr. 6, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I can't say I watch him play a whole lot, but according to advanced analytics, it seems the only good point to his game is 5v5 offense, his defensive side of the game is atrocious, so I don't see him being a good fit on our defensive 4th line. Not to mention he's currently making 2.75 Million which is likely more than Lehkonen will get next year if we resign him.

*edit* just realized you retained 1M on his contract, but at 1.75, he's still not worth it. I'd rather play a guy from Laval


Nj is a bliss on d-side zone, Miles is really a good guy to go with. If Lehky go he is my target (yep with a million retained) at 2,750 i'd rather sign lehky at 2,600 wink
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Apr. 6, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.
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I actually kinda like the Habs lol.

We'll take Norlinder then


Nordlinder is a left pmd who's playing shl for another year. He is more than a top4 projection to many of us, but we need speed and quick shot. Are you guys ok with salary retention???
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Apr. 6, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
Nordlinder is a left pmd who's playing shl for another year. He is more than a top4 projection to many of us, but we need speed and quick shot. Are you guys ok with salary retention???


It hurts a little with Wood (with the term) but I would be fine with it
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