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does strome deserve to stay long term or get traded high

Created by: RussianRangers9
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 7, 2021
Published: Apr. 7, 2021
Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
strome seems to be a huge locker room guy who meshes well with our top players, and younger guys. he is a fit for our 2c and is showing that this season. should the rangers consider resigning him when his contract is up or trade high at the draft/ 2022 tdl? discuss in the comments.
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
strome, ryan2$4,500,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Beecher, John [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
2022 tdl
BOS
  1. strome, ryan
Buyouts
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $6,083,333
  • Henrik Lundqvist: $5,500,000
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
  • Brad Richards: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
NYR
NYR
BUF
NYR
LAK
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
BOS
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,725,633$0$11,345,000$5,774,367

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
$3,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Strome, Ryan
$4,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW
RFA - 3
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
NYR
Blackwell, Colin
$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
$750,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
$863,333
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
UFA - 2
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$925,000
G
UFA - 1
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
$925,000
LD
RFA - 3
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$2,425,000
G
RFA - 2
NYR
Reunanen, Tarmo
$809,167
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Smith, Brendan
$4,350,000
LD/RD, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
Hájek, Libor
$833,333
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Di Giuseppe, Phillip
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
NYR
Howden, Brett
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$4,800,000 ($3,725,000)
RD
RFA - 2
NYR
Johnson, Jack
$1,150,000 ($75,000)
LD
UFA - 1
NYR
Kinkaid, Keith
$825,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 2
NYR
Bitetto, Anthony
$737,500 ($0)
LD
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Kreider, C.
Zibanejad, M.
Kakko, K.
Panarin, A.
Fox, A.
Power Play 2
Lafrenière, A.
Strome, R.
Chytil, F.
Buchnevich, P.
Trouba, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Rooney, K.
Blackwell, C.
Lindgren, R.
Fox, A.
Penalty Kill 2
Zibanejad, M.
Buchnevich, P.
Reunanen, T.
Smith, B.

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Apr. 7, 2021 at 7:43 a.m.
#1
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Bruins decline. Too much for Strome.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 7:48 a.m.
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RussianRangers39
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Bruins decline. Too much for Strome.


read dsc not meant to be a trade post. just meant 1st and a center prospect
Apr. 7, 2021 at 8:03 a.m.
#3
Your favorite Ranger
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Rangers would never do that. They would rather trade Strome for Byfield, Lundell type player to work with kids.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 8:08 a.m.
#4
CHI NYI
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He’s been great. Hasn’t needed Panarin to have an impact this season, which was a concern last season. I see no reason to move on from him rn
Apr. 7, 2021 at 8:10 a.m.
#5
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IF we are trading him for a first, it is probably going to a contender so probably in the late 20's for a first. Would rather just keep him, seems to be clicking well right now.

I think a good question is what do you pay him next summer? 6X6???? I have no clue.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 8:16 a.m.
#6
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
He’s been great. Hasn’t needed Panarin to have an impact this season, which was a concern last season. I see no reason to move on from him rn


Panarin has factored into 47% of the points Strome has this year. Last year Panarin factored in 54% of Strome's points. I'd pump the breaks on Strome not needing Panarin.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 8:28 a.m.
#7
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Panarin has factored into 47% of the points Strome has this year. Last year Panarin factored in 54% of Strome's points. I'd pump the breaks on Strome not needing Panarin.


When Panarin was out, Strome had 9 points in 9 games without him.
This is an exhausting argument. Of course Panarin has factored into half of Strome's points - they play on a line together IN A TEAM GAME.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 8:32 a.m.
#8
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We don’t want him.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 8:39 a.m.
#9
Always in Pain
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Honestly think you'd be better off just keeping Strome. Considering how well he's playing, he's more valuable for NYR than any other team in the league.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 9:02 a.m.
#10
Kakko Redemption Szn
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based on his performance, I would say he ~deserves~ to stay long term. but hockey is a business, so we will probably see him as buy low, sell high. jeff gorton is a mastermind so regardless of what he does I am confident it will work out
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 9:02 a.m.
#11
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Keep him because it would cause a bigger problem with the Rangers center core. Also he would have more value at the 2021 TDL not the 2022
Apr. 7, 2021 at 9:39 a.m.
#12
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
When Panarin was out, Strome had 9 points in 9 games without him.
This is an exhausting argument. Of course Panarin has factored into half of Strome's points - they play on a line together IN A TEAM GAME.


nearly half of those points came via the PP and when Panarin came back....

13G / 18Pts

^But please continue to think Strome doesn't need Panarin. For a guy whose so amazing, NYR fans seem to include him in a lot of trade proposals. I live right in the middle of Ranger country, so I get to see a lot of their games and many of my friends who are Ranger fans say the same thing, good complementary centerman.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 10:21 a.m.
#13
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Quoting: ON3M4N
nearly half of those points came via the PP and when Panarin came back....

13G / 18Pts

^But please continue to think Strome doesn't need Panarin. For a guy whose so amazing, NYR fans seem to include him in a lot of trade proposals. I live right in the middle of Ranger country, so I get to see a lot of their games and many of my friends who are Ranger fans say the same thing, good complementary centerman.


no one called Strome amazing. Strome is exactly what he is made out to be, a decent 2C that takes bad offensive zone penalties and needs to work on his defensive side of the game.
it was simply stated that Strome still produces, with or without Panarin.
isn't it a byproduct of playing with elite players? elite players make everyone better...

pick a player on Boston, guarantee 50-60% of their points are directly correlated with someone else. so using your logic, without X player, Y player is just an OK hockey player...

^but please, continue to think that Panarin is the sole reason Strome has been a .75 PPG player since joining the Rangers.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
no one called Strome amazing. Strome is exactly what he is made out to be, a decent 2C that takes bad offensive zone penalties and needs to work on his defensive side of the game.
it was simply stated that Strome still produces, with or without Panarin.
isn't it a byproduct of playing with elite players? elite players make everyone better...

pick a player on Boston, guarantee 50-60% of their points are directly correlated with someone else. so using your logic, without X player, Y player is just an OK hockey player...

^but please, continue to think that Panarin is the sole reason Strome has been a .75 PPG player since joining the Rangers.


Strome isn't a 2C, at least not on a contender. BTW here are Strome's seasons in New York

'18-'19: 0.52 PGP
'19-'20: 0.84 PGP
'20-'21: 0.95 PGP

Interesting that Strome's first year in New York he didn't have Panarin and his P/GP was significantly lower sarcasm

Kid with a career 0.42 P/GP suddenly see's his P/GP double with the addition of Panarin. You can point to a 9 game stretch all you want, I'll look at a larger sample size though

cheers
Apr. 7, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Strome isn't a 2C, at least not on a contender. BTW here are Strome's seasons in New York

'18-'19: 0.52 PGP
'19-'20: 0.84 PGP
'20-'21: 0.95 PGP

Interesting that Strome's first year in New York he didn't have Panarin and his P/GP was significantly lower sarcasm

Kid with a career 0.42 P/GP suddenly see's his P/GP double with the addition of Panarin. You can point to a 9 game stretch all you want, I'll look at a larger sample size though

cheers


1st year in NY, he was playing on the 3rd line less than 16 minutes a night with Jimmy Vesey...
responsibility grows, production grows.

but again, isn't that what elite players do? make good players better?
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 11:36 a.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
1st year in NY, he was playing on the 3rd line less than 16 minutes a night with Jimmy Vesey...
responsibility grows, production grows.

but again, isn't that what elite players do? make good players better?


They make players better yes and your making my point. Strome isn't a 2C without Panarin. Rangers shopped Strome this summer and no one came close to their asking price. That speaks volumes to how the rest of GM's view him.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
They make players better yes and your making my point. Strome isn't a 2C without Panarin. Rangers shopped Strome this summer and no one came close to their asking price. That speaks volumes to how the rest of GM's view him.


that doesn't mean anything - shopping someone but not pulling the trigger doesn't place value.
maybe the Ranger's were valuing him too high, maybe GM's were concerned with what his next contract would cost and didn't want to trade an asset and not come to terms.

i'm simply saying, Strome is a good player and proving to be a good 2C.
half the leagues 2C's are good because they play with good players - you are hanging onto a false narrative for whatever reason.
you do you, have fun...
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
that doesn't mean anything - shopping someone but not pulling the trigger doesn't place value.
maybe the Ranger's were valuing him too high, maybe GM's were concerned with what his next contract would cost and didn't want to trade an asset and not come to terms.

i'm simply saying, Strome is a good player and proving to be a good 2C.
half the leagues 2C's are good because they play with good players - you are hanging onto a false narrative for whatever reason.
you do you, have fun...


HAHAHA explain then why this past off-season NYR were trying to move Strome in every other deal? Because they were trying to sell high aka they know he's not as good as his number indicate. Keep trying to spin it anyway you want, the guy is a product of Panarin. The numbers support it and just because you want to live in a fantasy land doesn't mean its a false narrative. The Rangers were so confident in his game that they have him a 2yr deal and only bought 1yr of FA. They didn't even try to lock him up long-term which is a red flag. Who doesn't want to lock up a late 20's center that was playing at a 70pt rate? its not like those guy grow on trees. Again keep thinking what you want, but the evidence is there, you just choose to ignore it......just like I'm going to choose to ignore you smile
Apr. 7, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
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Bcarlo25
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You’re not getting a first or a good prospect.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
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LafnDoubleADoubleK
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Quoting: ON3M4N
nearly half of those points came via the PP and when Panarin came back....
13G / 18Pts
^But please continue to think Strome doesn't need Panarin. For a guy whose so amazing, NYR fans seem to include him in a lot of trade proposals. I live right in the middle of Ranger country, so I get to see a lot of their games and many of my friends who are Ranger fans say the same thing, good complementary centerman.


Strome is skilled, produces points w/wo bread, simply improving while at a steal 2x4.5m lol...get with the times.
Again, it's all about the cap. We need our 4th line totally revamped. Kids shouldn't be traded. Buch & Strome are our only tradables, between now & 23. Both are worth 4x5.3m, max mntc.
Should trade each+ for a Beecher/Beckman++.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 3:39 p.m.
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Quoting: DoubleADoubleK
Strome is skilled, produces points w/wo bread, simply improving while at a steal 2x4.5m lol...get with the times.
Again, it's all about the cap. We need our 4th line totally revamped. Kids shouldn't be traded. Buch & Strome are our only tradables, between now & 23. Both are worth 4x5.3m, max mntc.
Should trade each+ for a Beecher/Beckman++.


Boston isn't giving up Beecher in a deal for Strome. Buch I could see though as he fills a need.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 4:46 p.m.
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LafnDoubleADoubleK
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Boston isn't giving up Beecher in a deal for Strome. Buch I could see though as he fills a need.


Fair enough, trade for needs. Yet watching every single game, despite what others may think they see, Strome is more important, consistent and useful. If it wasn't for the cap, we'd keep him/both.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: DoubleADoubleK
Fair enough, trade for needs. Yet watching every single game, despite what others may think they see, Strome is more important, consistent and useful. If it wasn't for the cap, we'd keep him/both.


I live right in the middle of Ranger country and watch the Rangers as much as I watch the Bruins. I (along with the my friends who are Rangers fans) have to agree to disagree on Strome.
 
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