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Deadline idea

Created by: Timmah007
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 6, 2021
Published: Apr. 7, 2021
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I’m not exactly in favour of this but playing with an idea interested to see if any oilers fans share the same concern this would cause.
Oilers do get a hard to play against guy which I think could be exactly what mcdavid needs not saying he’s better player than nuge but a better fit on mcdavids line. I see that line missing a guy that can create havoc in front of the net which creates those lucky bounces screens additional coverage opening space on the outside for mcdavid and jp to work their magic. Nuge is great at the cycle plays and setting up plays which is why he does work soo well with Leon and yam but we have a coach that refuses to play them together for more than a shift or two id personally prefer to go that route than consider any type of trade but it is what it is.
I do see nuge as a very responsible player that torts would love to have. Columbus has two goalies I personally believe are the perfect age group to target I’d be very open to either one and adjust the deal to work finically.
Trades
EDM
  1. Foligno, Nick
  2. Korpisalo, Joonas
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
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Obviously Columbus and nuges agent have extension talks before trade goes threw.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
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Ban Price trades
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Finish setting the roster please. It's part of those soft rules you agree to when you publish a roster. If you only want the discussion, use the forums.

Otherwise, I think this is a horrible deal. Korpisalo isn't an upgrade to Koskinen, he's a downgrade. Never mind that now you have 4 goalies on the roster that aren't waivers exempt. Foligno isn't an upgrade to RNH, he's a downgrade. And we're doing this for what, the opportunity to shed Kassian a 2nd round pick next year? All this is is taking a step back for the sake of making a move. What the actual hell is this?
Apr. 7, 2021 at 12:59 p.m.
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Nah.
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There is a lot of Korpi hate, but I think the guy is a good starter.

Even then, though, not sure CBJ trade him and Foligno for the pleasure of getting a head-start on FA negotiations and buying out Kassian in a year.

Torts most likely isn't coming back next year, so I wouldn't measure how he works on the team in respect to how well he will work with Torts.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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Finish setting the roster please. It's part of those soft rules you agree to when you publish a roster. If you only want the discussion, use the forums.

Otherwise, I think this is a horrible deal. Korpisalo isn't an upgrade to Koskinen, he's a downgrade. Never mind that now you have 4 goalies on the roster that aren't waivers exempt. Foligno isn't an upgrade to RNH, he's a downgrade. And we're doing this for what, the opportunity to shed Kassian a 2nd round pick next year? All this is is taking a step back for the sake of making a move. What the actual hell is this?


Different style of player between nuge and foligno. Think foligno style would better complement mcdavid over nuge threwout the entire season haven’t seen much chemistry on that line it’s been mcdavid powering threw having someone that is experienced on his line that can use his physicality along the boards in front of the net to gain possession and create screens and draw defenders to the slot making it tougher on goalies. Waive stalock run with 3 goalies for post season which they should have done to start the season. Have both Kosk and korp signed threw next year so that can be the tandem protect korp for expansion unlikely kosk gets taken if he does or if a deal is made to take him resign smith for another year.
Il fill out roster now wanted to when posting but short on time being at work.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.
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Ban Price trades
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Quoting: Timmah007
Different style of player between nuge and foligno. Think foligno style would better complement mcdavid over nuge threwout the entire season haven’t seen much chemistry on that line it’s been mcdavid powering threw having someone that is experienced on his line that can use his physicality along the boards in front of the net to gain possession and create screens and draw defenders to the slot making it tougher on goalies. Waive stalock run with 3 goalies for post season which they should have done to start the season. Have both Kosk and korp signed threw next year so that can be the tandem protect korp for expansion unlikely kosk gets taken if he does or if a deal is made to take him resign smith for another year.
Il fill out roster now wanted to when posting but short on time being at work.


The entire thought process is faulty. You're trading away our best asset should we opt to move him in order to bring in a backup goaltender, a highly overpaid third liner (in hopes he can function as a top-line rental) and, a second round pick a year out. Dumping Kassian is almost trivial. In a typical rental market, Nuge is fetching a first and a prospect, hands down. There's opportunity for more if you can get more than one team interested. You've completely undersold him and done nothing to fix the problems this roster has.

I don't know how many times it needs to be spelled out for you and the dozen other Oilers fans that insist on trading for Korpisalo, but it's a fundamentally horrible idea. Over the past three seasons, he's been the 48th-best goaltender (>750 minutes) at stopping pucks at 5v5. Koskinen is 52nd and there's 1 save percentage point separating the two. The only real upside he has to Mikko is that he's about $1.5M cheaper. There's no upgrade there. Everyone and their dog wants to run Koskinen out of town for being a bad goaltender, and your plan is to run two of him into next season? He's not a good add.

Over that same period of time, Foligno has posted 82 points in 171 games. This is third line production, albeit on the higher end. Conversely, Nugent-Hopkins has posted 158 points in 186 games. Top line rates. The Oilers already struggle with offensive depth, where are they making up that insane dip in scoring? Who gives an actual sh*t if RNH is only producing with one of Edmonton's elite centers or on the powerplay: those goals still count. You win hockey games by scoring goals. Sometimes it's a matter of chemistry, but if skill players can play with other skill players, faulting them for it is incredibly stupid. Have the league's best second line playing behind the best player since Lindros, where's the downside?

We've seen what trading skill for hopes of a big, mean player alongside McDavid looks like. The club has been reeling since that summer, have you learned nothing? What about the second line? We've seen nights where the Kahun-Draisaitl-Yamamoto line fails to produce at evens. This roster needs more firepower up front, not less. This club is a top winger, a bona-fide starter, and a viable #3C away from winning it all. The trick now is just to acquire and keep those pieces. If you move RNH for anything shy of the top winger or bona-fide starter, you've moved him at a loss. This is a very simple concept.
 
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