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Created by: Shakabakes
Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 7, 2021
Published: Apr. 7, 2021
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I know Turcotte and Byfield are off limits. Vilardi might be, too.

But any interest here between a team heavy in Center Prospects and one heavy with Defensive Prospects?

1 for 1 with everything listed. Or what might need to be added for any potential deal?
Free Agent Signings
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3$925,000
Trades
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  1. Kupari, Rasmus
  2. Thomas, Akil
  3. Vilardi, Gabriel
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LAK
  1. Jones, Zachary
  2. Robertson, Matthew
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Braden Schneider
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2021
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25$81,500,000$77,468,966$0$12,195,000$4,031,034
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LW
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UFA - 7
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C, LW, RW
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RD
UFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000 ($75,000$75K$75,000$75K)
LD
UFA - 1
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.
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Vilardi is off limits, but I think that Kupari, Thomas and Anderson-Dolan could be available.

LA is looking primarily for lefties, while Anaheim (for what it's worth) is looking for righties.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.
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Nothing on the Rangers side gets you Vilardi 1-for-1, that you listed. You'd have to look at losing Miller for that.

As far as the other Kings prospects, I'm sure there could be discussions about Robertson or Jones. They could fit the profile of the "dynamic, young LD" that Blake has talked about wanting. However, I'm not sure the ceiling on either one is exactly what Blake is looking for. My gut, based on what the Kings organization is saying, is that they'd target Robertson over Jones -- LA is looking for a little more size on their blue line, and a 6'4" skating defenseman fits that role better than a 5'10" one obviously. But again, I'm also leaning towards Blake putting together a package deal for a high-ceiling player as opposed to one who would slot in at the same level as either Toby Bjornfot or Mikey Anderson.

As far as the prospect that they'd be more prone to moving, my best guess is Akil Thomas. Kupari has a skillset that LA could look to move to the wing, whereas Akil seems very much more of a pure-center, based off of my viewings of the Reign. If Akil is the player going the other way, I'd imagine the Kings would be the one to add a pick or two (nothing over the top, but 3rd or later).
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: PuckLuck_77
Nothing on the Rangers side gets you Vilardi 1-for-1, that you listed. You'd have to look at losing Miller for that.

As far as the other Kings prospects, I'm sure there could be discussions about Robertson or Jones. They could fit the profile of the "dynamic, young LD" that Blake has talked about wanting. However, I'm not sure the ceiling on either one is exactly what Blake is looking for. My gut, based on what the Kings organization is saying, is that they'd target Robertson over Jones -- LA is looking for a little more size on their blue line, and a 6'4" skating defenseman fits that role better than a 5'10" one obviously. But again, I'm also leaning towards Blake putting together a package deal for a high-ceiling player as opposed to one who would slot in at the same level as either Toby Bjornfot or Mikey Anderson.

As far as the prospect that they'd be more prone to moving, my best guess is Akil Thomas. Kupari has a skillset that LA could look to move to the wing, whereas Akil seems very much more of a pure-center, based off of my viewings of the Reign. If Akil is the player going the other way, I'd imagine the Kings would be the one to add a pick or two (nothing over the top, but 3rd or later).


So Akil and a 3rd for Robertson? That sounds reasonable.

Very good breakdown on the organization. Very thorough.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: PuckLuck_77
Nothing on the Rangers side gets you Vilardi 1-for-1, that you listed. You'd have to look at losing Miller for that.

As far as the other Kings prospects, I'm sure there could be discussions about Robertson or Jones. They could fit the profile of the "dynamic, young LD" that Blake has talked about wanting. However, I'm not sure the ceiling on either one is exactly what Blake is looking for. My gut, based on what the Kings organization is saying, is that they'd target Robertson over Jones -- LA is looking for a little more size on their blue line, and a 6'4" skating defenseman fits that role better than a 5'10" one obviously. But again, I'm also leaning towards Blake putting together a package deal for a high-ceiling player as opposed to one who would slot in at the same level as either Toby Bjornfot or Mikey Anderson.

As far as the prospect that they'd be more prone to moving, my best guess is Akil Thomas. Kupari has a skillset that LA could look to move to the wing, whereas Akil seems very much more of a pure-center, based off of my viewings of the Reign. If Akil is the player going the other way, I'd imagine the Kings would be the one to add a pick or two (nothing over the top, but 3rd or later).


You said more, and better, too.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 1:54 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 7, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.
I wanted NYR to take Gabe Vilardi @ #7 in that 2017 draft but i don't think the Kings would move him unless Gorton was offering Lundkqvist (RHD)

Zac Jones & 2021 3rd (BUF) for Rasmus Kuapari ?
Apr. 7, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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Holy moly. A well thought out, reasonable conversation on this website about trade proposals. Hell has frozen over. Thanks for good insights everyone.
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Apr. 7, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
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I wanted NYR to take Gabe Vilkardir @ #7 in that 2017 draft but i don't think the Kings would move him unless Gorton was offering Lundkqvist (RHD)

Zac Jones & 2021 3rd (BUF) for Rasmus Kuapari ?


Probably not bad. But as pointed out above, the 3rd with Robertson for Akil Thomas seemed favorable. I had no problem with it.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
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So Akil and a 3rd for Robertson? That sounds reasonable.

Very good breakdown on the organization. Very thorough.


I'd be happy with that trade as a Kings fan. But from a Rangers point of view it seems to be more of making a trade just to make a trade. Akil is going to be a good player -- a ceiling of a 3rd line center is my best guess. But the Rangers are looking for a sure-fire, no-doubt top-2C, right? Despite it seeming like LA and NYR have a great match, I don't think either team is willing to move what is needed to fill their perceived holes. I think they need to find teams that are just starting the rebuilding phase. Teams that are more likely to take chances on prospects and picks.

Now, I'm not a Rangers fan, and I don't really follow them. So take what I'm about to say with a large grain of salt:

There's the obvious Eichel talk for NYR, but am I crazy for thinking Ryan Getzlaf would make total sense for the Rangers? He's a legit 2C now being played as a 1C on a bad team, who could be the assist machine that Kakko needs. His experience in the playoffs would be a huge boon to NYR as they make a push for that final spot. It wouldn't take a ton of assets to get him from Anaheim because age and his restrictions in his NMC will hamper his trade value. The Rangers have the cap space to make it work, and his contract is over at the end of the year. So the Rangers could bring him back for much cheaper next year if they wanted to. And it pushes Strome and Chytil into positions their a little better suited to at this exact moment. This is purely just me spitballing, but I think there's really good value there if Getzlaf is okay with it and the price isn't terrible.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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I wanted NYR to take Gabe Vilkardir #7 in that 2017 draft but i don't think the Kings would move him unless Gorton was offering Lundkqvist (RHD)

Zac Jones & 2021 3rd (BUF) for Rasmus Kuapari ?


While I guess the value is there, I don't think the fit is right for this trade. Jones doesn't match what the Kings want in their LHD acquisition (size), and Kupari is likely the next prospect to make the jump.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
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While I guess the value is there, I don't think the fit is right for this trade. Jones doesn't match what the Kings want in their LHD acquisition (size), and Kupari is likely the next prospect to make the jump.


Im less interested in Thomas, unless a piece like a 1C is coming back in a larger package i don't see Gorton moving Robertson.

Zac Jones (LD) & 2021 3rd (NYR) for Jaret Anderson-Dolan ??
Apr. 7, 2021 at 2:41 p.m.
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Im less interested in Thomas, unless a piece like a 1C is coming back in a larger package i don't see Gorton moving Robertson.

Zac Jones (LD) & 2021 3rd (NYR) for Jaret Anderson-Dolan ??


Again, I can't imagine the interest is there for Zac Jones. Switching around the Kings prospects doesn't change the fact that they wouldn't target Jones in a trade. There's not a deal there to be made.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
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Im less interested in Thomas, unless a piece like a 1C is coming back in a larger package i don't see Gorton moving Robertson.

Zac Jones (LD) & 2021 3rd (NYR) for Jaret Anderson-Dolan ??


To me, Anderson Dolan isn’t going anywhere. He has always been pegged as that future 3c and he’s doing exactly that. Also, I don’t see Kupari going anywhere, as of right now, unless the kings are getting a better asset than Jones/robertson
Apr. 7, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.
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To me, Anderson Dolan isn’t going anywhere. He has always been pegged as that future 3c and he’s doing exactly that. Also, I don’t see Kupari going anywhere, as of right now, unless the kings are getting a better asset than Jones/robertson


I mean with the C depth of the LAK, Kopitar, Vilardi, Anderson Dolan , Byfield, Turcotte, Kupari, Tyler Madden, Akil Thomas ... i don't know how many Centers you can play even if you move Kupari & Thomas to the wing .

Zac Jones even with a high offensive ceiling is probably too similar to what the Kings have in the system as far as undersized puck moving D man.
The same reason the Kings would be interested in the bigger (6'4) Robertson is the same reason NYR wants to hold onto him.
Dont think either organization "needs" to make a deal currently so forcing one doesn't make any sense.
Trading Robertson for say Akil Thomas as presented above, doesn't add enough value to NYR, even though they are an organization with a shallow center pool.
Money coming off the books, may attack it UFA (Danault?) or make a move for a C (Eichel, Stamkos?) via trade.
Apr. 7, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.
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I mean with the C depth of the LAK, Kopitar, Vilardi, Anderson Dolan , Byfield, Turcotte, Kupari, Tyler Madden, Akil Thomas ... i don't know how many Centers you can play even if you move Kupari & Thomas to the wing .

Zac Jones even with a high offensive ceiling is probably too similar to what the Kings have in the system as far as undersized puck moving D man.
The same reason the Kings would be interested in the bigger (6'4) Robertson is the same reason NYR wants to hold onto him.
Dont think either organization "needs" to make a deal currently so forcing one doesn't make any sense.
Trading Robertson for say Akil Thomas as presented above, doesn't add enough value to NYR even one with a shallow center pool. Money coming off the books, may attack it UFA (Danault?) or make a move for a C (Eichel, Stamkos?) via trade.

Centers can move to the wing. The kings are already moving players to the wing in the AHL. Turcotte is currently playing wing as an example. I don’t mind Robertson but I don’t think I’d move Kupari for him.
 
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