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Just Throwing these - GETTING BIGGER TRADES - out there for some Feedback

Created by: Sidstick87
Initial Creation Date: Apr 7, 2021
Published: Apr 8 at 5:32
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
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Those 1st - [2] Trades, I kind of just made up & wasn't sure on.....

Are they... Nuts? Crazy? Close? Insane? Kind of like them? Kind of Hate them?
Trades
PIT
  1. Brown, Dustin
  2. Kempe, Adrian
  3. Clague, Kale
LAK
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. Pettersson, Marcus
PIT
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. Hayton, Barrett
ARI
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Poulin, Samuel
PIT
  1. Dickinson, Jason
  2. Oleksiak, Jamie
DAL
  1. Riikola, Juuso
  2. Jankowski, Mark
  3. Gruden, Jonathan
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
* CONDITIONAL - 3rd Round Pick
"IF" Pens win Cup, Pick Becomes :
2022 - 2nd Round Pick
PIT
  1. Dubnyk, Devan
SJS
  1. Sceviour, Colton
  2. 2022 6th round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
WSH
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$81,455,833$0$957,500$44,167
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
LAK
Kempe, Adrian
$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
DAL
Dickinson, Jason
$1,500,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
LAK
Brown, Dustin
$5,875,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
ARI
Crouse, Lawson
$1,533,333
LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
DAL
Oleksiak, Jamie
$2,137,500
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
PIT
Ceci, Cody
$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Rodrigues, Evan
$700,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Gaudreau, Frédérick
$700,000
C
UFA - 1
LAK
Clague, Kale
$761,666
LD
RFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
SJS
Dubnyk, Devan
$2,166,667 ($1,091,667)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
ARI
Hayton, Barrett
$894,167 ($0)
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Angello, Anthony
$725,000 ($0)
C, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$750,000 ($0)
C, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$863,333 ($0)
LD
RFA - 2
PIT
Friedman, Mark
$725,000 ($0)
RD
RFA - 2
PIT
Weber, Yannick
$700,000 ($0)
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Lagacé, Maxime
$700,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 1

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Apr 8 at 5:39
#1
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Despite how disappointing Hayton has been so far in pro hockey, there’s no reason for the coyotes to trade him right now. I know Poulin is a top prospect as well but Coyotes need centers in the worst way, not more wings
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Apr 8 at 5:47
#2
JRob for Calder
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Big no from Dallas. The price for Oleksiak is way more than this whole package.
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Apr 8 at 5:51
#3
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If I'm Dallas I'm going to pass. I think they could get more for Dicky and Oleksiak separately.
Apr 8 at 5:52
#4
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Big no from Dallas. The price for Oleksiak is way more than this whole package.


I was going to make Oleksiak for a 4th Rdr since we already traded him back and forth for that, lol
Apr 8 at 5:52
#5
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Even if the Kings were ok with trading their most tenured player in franchise history, they're not going to do it for that package. Why would the Kings, a team just coming out of a rebuild, trade away quality young players for an overpaid 30-year old winger and a 4/5 defenseman?
Apr 8 at 5:54
#6
JRob for Calder
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Quoting: Sidstick87
I was going to make Oleksiak for a 4th Rdr since we already traded him back and forth for that, lol


He got better since, he’s now worth a half decent prospect and a 2nd round pick.
Apr 8 at 5:54
#7
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Even if the Kings were ok with trading their most tenured player in franchise history, they're not going to do it for that package. Why would the Kings, a team just coming out of a rebuild, trade away quality young players for an overpaid 30-year old winger and a 4/5 defenseman?


Pettersson is much better than that homie.
Apr 8 at 5:55
#8
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
He got better since, he’s now worth a half decent prospect and a 2nd round pick.


I kno, I was just joking.... I was mad AF when we traded him back
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Apr 8 at 5:56
#9
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 66
Likes: 27
Quoting: Sidstick87
I was going to make Oleksiak for a 4th Rdr since we already traded him back and forth for that, lol


People who know me know two things: my dislike for Rutherford the last few years and how mad I was that he traded Oleksiak back to Dallas for just a 4th. I know that he was traded for a 4th before this, but I mean, surely, there could have been a trade partner somewhere else that would have given more. Even if it was out of goodwill, he could have pretended like he got another offer first and it was too late to return Oleksiak back to Dallas lol. Or even better, keep him and force Sullivan to play him more! I loved his gameplay. And now, he'll likely be traded for quite a bit more than a 4th.
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Apr 8 at 5:59
#10
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Quoting: Sidstick87
Pettersson is much better than that homie.


He's a decent 2nd pairing guy, but if he's your #3D, your team probably has some defensive issues. If he's your #5 guy, you're in great shape. Hence he's a 4/5 defenseman.
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Apr 8 at 6:07
#11
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,625
Likes: 573
Quoting: Sidstick87
I kno, I was just joking.... I was mad AF when we traded him back


Then keep him. Cause the kings don’t want him or that contract
Apr 9 at 7:59
#12
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
He's a decent 2nd pairing guy, but if he's your #3D, your team probably has some defensive issues. If he's your #5 guy, you're in great shape. Hence he's a 4/5 defenseman.


He was prob our 2nd best Dman last yr (his 1st full yr) then this yr he struggled some after coming back from an injury but for the last 2 months now, he is #1 or #2 on our Defense in almost every analytical stat...
Might have the best 1st pass out of zone too .... He is only 24, on a very fair contract and will be a Top pairing in NHL.
Apr 9 at 8:01
#13
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Quoting: WallStreet83
If I'm Dallas I'm going to pass. I think they could get more for Dicky and Oleksiak separately.


Do they really call him Dicky as his hockey nickname?? Thats funny if so.
Apr 9 at 8:03
#14
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Quoting: Tony21
People who know me know two things: my dislike for Rutherford the last few years and how mad I was that he traded Oleksiak back to Dallas for just a 4th. I know that he was traded for a 4th before this, but I mean, surely, there could have been a trade partner somewhere else that would have given more. Even if it was out of goodwill, he could have pretended like he got another offer first and it was too late to return Oleksiak back to Dallas lol. Or even better, keep him and force Sullivan to play him more! I loved his gameplay. And now, he'll likely be traded for quite a bit more than a 4th.


I kno, I was just joking about the 4th...

But I was mad too, we actually kept JJ & Guddy and traded Oleksiak instead... I think that was my breaking point w/ GMJR
Apr 9 at 1:15
#15
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Quoting: Sidstick87
He was prob our 2nd best Dman last yr (his 1st full yr) then this yr he struggled some after coming back from an injury but for the last 2 months now, he is #1 or #2 on our Defense in almost every analytical stat...
Might have the best 1st pass out of zone too .... He is only 24, on a very fair contract and will be a Top pairing in NHL.


I don't agree that he'll be a top pairing guy. Maybe on a team with a weak defense.

Kempe is the asset with the most value in the Kings trade. Brown and Zucker are pretty much a wash (the Kings won't trade Brown, he is the heart and soul of the team).

This would be a bad trade for LA. The only thing that really changes is that now Pettersson gets taken by Seattle instead of Clague in the expansion draft, at the cost of Adrian Kempe.
 
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