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Fred LTIR Deadline

Created by: Babcock_4_Mayor
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 9, 2021
Published: Apr. 9, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Blues trade is essentially the Palmieri + Zajac deal
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Bozak, Tyler ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. Schwartz, Jaden ($2,675,000 retained)
STL
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. Engvall, Pierre
  3. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2021 4th round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Laughton, Scott
  2. 2021 6th round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
3.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,374,741$0$0$1,125,259

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$2,675,000$2,675,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,300,000$2,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$874,125$874,125
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$821,667$821,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.
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Palmieri and Zajac are better than Schwartz and Bozak. Engvall is better than Bozak. These trades are garbage
Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:29 a.m.
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The Blues are not the Devils, though. Vive la difference.


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Palmieri and Zajac are better than Schwartz and Bozak. Engvall is better than Bozak. These trades are garbage



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Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:30 a.m.
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PHI says no and gets better offers elsewhere


If you really want to improve your chances and acquire guys like Laughton and Oleksiak who appear to be in demand, then you offer what another team might actually accept, not what you are willing to give
Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:34 a.m.
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The Blues are not the Devils, though. Vive la difference.





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Doesn't matter, the Devil's set the market. Keep your players.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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Palmieri and Zajac are better than Schwartz and Bozak. Engvall is better than Bozak. These trades are garbage


Zajac and Bozak are equal. Schwartz is far greater than Palmieri. Palms is the better scorer,but Schwartz is the better player. Not to mention he's actually a 200 foot player.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:46 a.m.
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Zajac and Bozak are equal. Schwartz is far greater than Palmieri. Palms is the better scorer,but Schwartz is the better player. Not to mention he's actually a 200 foot player.


Sure no bias here at all.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:48 a.m.
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Doesn't matter, the Devil's set the market. Keep your players.



What now? The Devils set the market huh? Wow, do they know they have this power to set the market for teams in a totally different situation with different surpluses and needs?

But yes, thanks, we'll steer clear of this trade.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:50 a.m.
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Sure no bias here at all.


It's not. Schwartz is the better player. You look at any Blues season where Schwartz is injured for a length of time, you'll notice just how much Schwartz drives the Blues game.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
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OTT trade condition:

If Forsberg plays 3 games, and TO makes the conference finals, that 6th becomes a 4th.

I think thats enough to get this trade across the line
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Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:04 a.m.
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What now? The Devils set the market huh? Wow, do they know they have this power to set the market for teams in a totally different situation with different surpluses and needs?

But yes, thanks, we'll steer clear of this trade.


It's a buyer's market you aren't going to get the same assets for lesser players.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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It's not. Schwartz is the better player. You look at any Blues season where Schwartz is injured for a length of time, you'll notice just how much Schwartz drives the Blues game.


Sure thing bud, don't want him. He's all yours and you can keep your used car salesman tactics to yourself.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:10 a.m.
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Sure thing bud, don't want him. He's all yours and you can keep your used car salesman tactics to yourself.


I'm not trying to trade him or sell him. In fact, I would keep him over Tarasenko. You clearly don't watch the Blues or have paid any attention to Schwartz. He was voted second most underrated player in the league by other NHL players, second only to Niklas Backstrom. You're proving the players right here.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.
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I'm not trying to trade him or sell him. In fact, I would keep him over Tarasenko. You clearly don't watch the Blues or have paid any attention to Schwartz. He was voted second most underrated player in the league by other NHL players, second only to Niklas Backstrom. You're proving the players right here.


Cool story
Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
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Cool story


Should have known better to take anything said by a leafs fan seriously on this site. Not all are bad, but you're surely the representation that all others think of.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.
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Should have known better to take anything said by a leafs fan seriously on this site. Not all are bad, but you're surely the representation that all others think of.


Look Schwartz is a fine player. However, the reality is it's a buyer's market. There are more buyers than sellers and despite whatever fans want based deals from Christmas er I mean deadlines past, the market is not that. There are better players available than Schwartz and Bozak is about 4 million dollars overpaid. So with all that said, if you want a pre Covid deadline trade value, you aren't getting it. It doesn't matter how much you pump Schwartz's tires, it's just not the world we live in right now. You want that return, cool, have a nice day. Teams can demand high prices right up until Monday and of they don't budge someone else will. When you have more sellers than buyers, who do you think will budge first?
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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Look Schwartz is a fine player. However, the reality is it's a buyer's market. There are more buyers than sellers and despite whatever fans want based deals from Christmas er I mean deadlines past, the market is not that. There are better players available than Schwartz and Bozak is about 4 million dollars overpaid. So with all that said, if you want a pre Covid deadline trade value, you aren't getting it. It doesn't matter how much you pump Schwartz's tires, it's just not the world we live in right now. You want that return, cool, have a nice day. Teams can demand high prices right up until Monday and of they don't budge someone else will. When you have more sellers than buyers, who do you think will budge first?


The issue here is your value of Schwartz comparatively to Palmieri. Schwartz is the better player here. Both players, Schwartz and Bozak at retained salary, is worth at the very least what Palmieri and Zajac (who is also 4 mil overpaid) got and someone is more than willing to pay for it.
Now, I dont think Toronto take that deal. Why? Well between quarantine and cap issues, it doesn't make sense for Toronto to do, but that's the value and the market set by the Devils trade. The issue you and I have is your dismissive attitude towards Schwartz and his play.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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The issue here is your value of Schwartz comparatively to Palmieri. Schwartz is the better player here. Both players, Schwartz and Bozak at retained salary, is worth at the very least what Palmieri and Zajac (who is also 4 mil overpaid) got and someone is more than willing to pay for it.
Now, I dont think Toronto take that deal. Why? Well between quarantine and cap issues, it doesn't make sense for Toronto to do, but that's the value and the market set by the Devils trade. The issue you and I have is your dismissive attitude towards Schwartz and his play.


Zajac is much better than Bozak. Palmieri was also more sought after. In any case, prepare to get less than you think you should.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.
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sens could probably get more for reilly elsewhere, hes having a great season and hes on a super friendly contract in today's financial climate
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:43 p.m.
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Zajac is much better than Bozak. Palmieri was also more sought after. In any case, prepare to get less than you think you should.


Zajac, while having a better year than Bozak this year, is overall not a better player. Bozak also had a major concussion this year. Palmieri was more "sought after" because Schwartz isn't even on the market while Palmieri was. This is also why Hoffman is on top 5 trade bait board ahead of Schwartz.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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Zajac, while having a better year than Bozak this year, is overall not a better player. Bozak also had a major concussion this year. Palmieri was more "sought after" because Schwartz isn't even on the market while Palmieri was. This is also why Hoffman is on top 5 trade bait board ahead of Schwartz.


Dude Bozak is slow and terrible defensively. He's done
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:54 p.m.
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Dude Bozak is slow and terrible defensively. He's done


He actually has been good defensively for the Blues. Not ROR or Schwartz level, but he's been good.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.
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He actually has been good defensively for the Blues. Not ROR or Schwartz level, but he's been good.


I love Bozak but he's done
Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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I love Bozak but he's done


Not done. Overpaid? For sure. He's definitely depth nowadays.
Apr. 9, 2021 at 1:08 p.m.
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Not done. Overpaid? For sure. He's definitely depth nowadays.


He wouldn't play in TO. He's too slow and they have way better options ahead of him.
 
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