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Created by: brady_t12

Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 9, 2021

Published: Apr. 9, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Anaheim trade can be to any team that is willing to take on Hagelin, again the value can be reworked in that trade.

Siegs is expendable with our logjam at LD, throw him in with a couple picks to get Hall and get Buffalo to take on Panik’s contract. He will be a serviceable middle 6 guy in Buffalo but can’t do much in Washington with a limited role.

Glendenning will take face offs on the fourth line but will play LW so that Dowd can continue to play at center. That gives our most defensively responsible line two centers who can take face offs, and one of those guys is the best in the league at it.

Trades

WSH

Future considerations

ANA

Hagelin, Carl
Sutter, Riley
2022 4th round pick (WSH)

Additional Details:

Late pick and a prospect to take on Hagelin. Value can be reworked.

WSH

Glendening, Luke

DET

2022 3rd round pick (WSH)

WSH

Hall, Taylor ($4,000,000 retained)

BUF

Pánik, Richard
Siegenthaler, Jonas
2021 2nd round pick (WSH)
2023 3rd round pick (WSH)

Buried

Pheonix Copley: $25,000 ($1,100,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$68,186,545	$419,749	$1,330,000	$13,313,455

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ovechkin, Alex $9,538,462$9,538,462 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kuznetsov, Evgeny $3,900,000$3,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 5	Oshie, T.J. $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 5
Hall, Taylor $0$0 LW NMC UFA - 1	Bäckström, Nicklas $9,200,000$9,200,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Wilson, Tom $5,166,667$5,166,667 RW M-NTC UFA - 4
Vrána, Jakub $3,350,000$3,350,000 LW UFA - 1	Eller, Lars $2,415,000$2,415,000 C UFA - 3	Sheary, Conor $735,000$735,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Dowd, Nic $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 2	Glendening, Luke $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1	Hathaway, Garnet $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Orlov, Dmitry $1,275,000$1,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 6	Samsonov, Ilya $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) G UFA - 1
Dillon, Brenden $3,900,000$3,900,000 LD UFA - 4	Schultz, Justin $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD UFA - 2	Vanecek, Vitek $716,667$716,667 G UFA - 2
Chara, Zdeno $795,000$795,000 ($730,000$730K) LD NMC UFA - 1	Jensen, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
van Riemsdyk, Trevor $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1		Kempný, Michal $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 2
Sprong, Daniel $725,000$725,000 RW, LW UFA - 2		Lundqvist, Henrik $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Carr, Daniel $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW UFA - 1
Pilon, Garrett $745,000$745,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($132,500$132K) C UFA - 1
Anderson, Craig $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1
Sgarbossa, Michael $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Kuznetsov, E.		Oshie, T.		Bäckström, N.
	Ovechkin, A.		Carlson, J.

Power Play 2
Vrána, J.		Eller, L.
	Ovechkin, A.		Schultz, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Bäckström, N.	Wilson, T.
	Chara, Z.	Jensen, N.

Penalty Kill 2
		Oshie, T.
	Orlov, D.	Carlson, J.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:36 a.m.

Sabreshockey53

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Sabres have Girgensons returning from injury next season, so they don't need Pánik.

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:39 a.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Detroit isn't sending the 4th back. Starting price is a 3rd. If you want retention, that's what raises it to the 2nd.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:45 a.m.

dtd_tank

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I don't mind the DET trade because the 4th round this year is going to be a cluster due to Covid.

That said, you're not going to acquire the top FO man in the league then put him on the wing lol.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:46 a.m.

brady_t12

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Quoting: dtd_tank

I don't mind the DET trade because the 4th round this year is going to be a cluster due to Covid.

That said, you're not going to acquire the top FO man in the league then put him on the wing lol.

Just read the description, I said he’s taking the face offs then playing on the wing.

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:48 a.m.

brady_t12

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Detroit isn't sending the 4th back. Starting price is a 3rd. If you want retention, that's what raises it to the 2nd.

So a 3rd for glendenning straight up no retention is even?

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:51 a.m.

Radu47

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Eric Staal didn't even get a 2nd

Why would LG?

😐

Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.

brady_t12

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Quoting: Radu47

Eric Staal didn't even get a 2nd

Why would LG?

😐

I changed it to a third.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.

Radu47

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Detroit isn't sending the 4th back. Starting price is a 3rd. If you want retention, that's what raises it to the 2nd.

For Luke Glendening?

The ape in your profile picture is better

I'll offer a 1st rounder for him no retention needed

Apr. 9, 2021 at 10:55 a.m.

Radu47

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Quoting: brady_t12

I changed it to a third.

My counter offer is an 8th round pick 😉

If the NHL happens to revert to the old format...

You're in luck! If not uh well um. popcorn

Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:06 a.m.

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Greysuits

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Why would the Sabres retain and take on Panik's contract?

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:08 a.m.

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DeadWingsv2

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Quoting: brady_t12

So a 3rd for glendenning straight up no retention is even?

Correct, that's a fair value.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.

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Not a chance the sabres do that

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.

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Shibbal18

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Panik would be a 13th forward for Buffalo, thats not enough to take him on and get Hall. Its not off astronomically, but the Sabres dont have disposable cap

Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Detroit isn't sending the 4th back. Starting price is a 3rd. If you want retention, that's what raises it to the 2nd.

How does retention for a UFA at the end of year drive up the price to a 2nd....
Guy is 31 and has 11 points (3 goals, 8 assists) in 40 games. I do agree - 3rd is reasonable, with retention (which doesn't really affect the wings).

Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.

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DeadWingsv2

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Quoting: AllCaps_BestTeam

It has to do fully with it restricting our ability to use the retention on more expensive contracts, not the amount itself.

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

It has to do fully with it restricting our ability to use the retention on more expensive contracts, not the amount itself.

That makes sense - great point.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.

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Boush

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I would rather keep Siegy for the future, but overall I definitely don't hate these moves, and I think they all make sense. Good job.

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.

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pharrow

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it won't be that easy for WSH to move Hags or Panik.
2 more years of those bad contracts.
If you are lucky, you convince Seattle to take one of them. They probably aren't taking TJO

Apr. 9, 2021 at 3:42 p.m.

#19

krakowitz

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Regardless of the value, I do like the team that's here. I think Glendening would be a nice addition, and Hall would be a nice punch to add into the lineup, but I am worried about how every team he goes to turns into an instant dumpster fire

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Apr. 9, 2021 at 6:23 p.m.

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brady_t12

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Quoting: pharrow

it won't be that easy for WSH to move Hags or Panik.
2 more years of those bad contracts.
If you are lucky, you convince Seattle to take one of them. They probably aren't taking TJO

Hagelin is serviceable, just has stone hands and can’t score to save his life it seems. He’s still fast and a fantastic PK guy, just too much money right now. Hopefully the cost to move him isn’t astronomical.

Panik seems pretty much invisible every night. Not bad, just not good. Maybe he needs a bigger role somewhere, but I think he’s just going to end up being dumped somewhere and take league minimum contracts in the future as a bottom line guy.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 6:25 p.m.

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brady_t12

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Quoting: Boush

I would rather keep Siegy for the future, but overall I definitely don't hate these moves, and I think they all make sense. Good job.

My thinking is that our left side is set for the near future with Orlov, Dillon, Fehervary, Alexyev, and Geisser if he pans out. Dillon is probably gone before his contract is up, and hopefully the caps are extending orlov before he’s a UFA. Siegenthaler is already getting shafted my the organization, so I’d be fine with seeing him go in a package to bring someone who will impact us now or help us shed salary.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Panik would be a 13th forward for Buffalo, thats not enough to take him on and get Hall. Its not off astronomically, but the Sabres dont have disposable cap

I see what you’re saying, if the second and third was changed to a first, would that get Buffalo to bite? I’d be a little hesitant to even make that trade, though.

I think in most other years, Hall would be worth a lot more, but it seems like it’s a buyers market this year and the caps have options to look at as far as middle 6 scoring forwards who are cheaper than hall. Rakell, Iafallo, Brown, Foligno, or Granlund.

Apr. 9, 2021 at 7:03 p.m.

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pharrow

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Quoting: brady_t12

I know exactly what hags is. The whole can't score thing is why he's not serviceable.
as for Panik, maybe a change is good. But no one is taking that from you for virtually nothing.

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