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Making a splash

Created by: brady_t12
Initial Creation Date: Apr 9, 2021
Published: Apr 9 at 10:27
Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals
Team Explanation
Anaheim trade can be to any team that is willing to take on Hagelin, again the value can be reworked in that trade.

Siegs is expendable with our logjam at LD, throw him in with a couple picks to get Hall and get Buffalo to take on Panik’s contract. He will be a serviceable middle 6 guy in Buffalo but can’t do much in Washington with a limited role.

Glendenning will take face offs on the fourth line but will play LW so that Dowd can continue to play at center. That gives our most defensively responsible line two centers who can take face offs, and one of those guys is the best in the league at it.
Trades
WSH
    Future considerations
    ANA
    1. Hagelin, Carl
    2. Sutter, Riley
    3. 2022 4th round pick (WSH)
    Additional Details:
    Late pick and a prospect to take on Hagelin. Value can be reworked.
    WSH
    1. Glendening, Luke
    DET
    1. 2022 3rd round pick (WSH)
    WSH
    1. Hall, Taylor ($4,000,000 retained)
    BUF
    1. Pánik, Richard
    2. Siegenthaler, Jonas
    3. 2021 2nd round pick (WSH)
    4. 2023 3rd round pick (WSH)
    Buried
    • Pheonix Copley: $25,000 ($1,100,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    VGK
    WSH
    2022
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    2023
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$76,996,544$419,749$1,330,000$4,503,456

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    WSH
    Ovechkin, Alex
    $9,538,462
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Kuznetsov, Evgeny
    $7,800,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    WSH
    Oshie, T.J.
    $5,750,000
    RW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    WSH
    Bäckström, Nicklas
    $9,200,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    WSH
    Wilson, Tom
    $5,166,666
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    WSH
    Vrána, Jakub
    $3,350,000
    LW
    RFA - 1
    WSH
    Eller, Lars
    $3,500,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    WSH
    Sheary, Conor
    $735,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Dowd, Nic
    $750,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Glendening, Luke
    $1,800,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Hathaway, Garnet
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    WSH
    Orlov, Dmitry
    $5,100,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    WSH
    Carlson, John
    $8,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    WSH
    Samsonov, Ilya
    $925,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    WSH
    Dillon, Brenden
    $3,900,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    WSH
    Schultz, Justin
    $4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    Vanecek, Vitek
    $716,667
    G
    RFA - 2
    WSH
    Chara, Zdeno
    $795,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Jensen, Nick
    $2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    WSH
    van Riemsdyk, Trevor
    $800,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Kempný, Michal
    $2,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    Sprong, Daniel
    $725,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
    WSH
    Lundqvist, Henrik
    $1,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    WSH
    Carr, Daniel
    $700,000 ($0)
    LW
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Pilon, Garrett
    $745,000 ($0)
    C
    RFA - 1
    WSH
    Anderson, Craig
    $700,000 ($0)
    G
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Sgarbossa, Michael
    $700,000 ($0)
    C
    UFA - 1

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Kuznetsov, E.
    Oshie, T.
    Bäckström, N.
    Ovechkin, A.
    Carlson, J.
    Power Play 2
    Vrána, J.
    Eller, L.
    , .
    Ovechkin, A.
    Schultz, J.
    Penalty Kill 1
    Bäckström, N.
    Wilson, T.
    Chara, Z.
    Jensen, N.
    Penalty Kill 2
    , .
    Oshie, T.
    Orlov, D.
    Carlson, J.

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    Apr 9 at 10:36
    #1
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    Sabres have Girgensons returning from injury next season, so they don't need Pánik.
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    Apr 9 at 10:39
    #2
    PlusMinus is stupid
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    Detroit isn't sending the 4th back. Starting price is a 3rd. If you want retention, that's what raises it to the 2nd.
    Apr 9 at 10:45
    #3
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    I don't mind the DET trade because the 4th round this year is going to be a cluster due to Covid.

    That said, you're not going to acquire the top FO man in the league then put him on the wing lol.
    Apr 9 at 10:46
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    Quoting: dtd_tank
    I don't mind the DET trade because the 4th round this year is going to be a cluster due to Covid.

    That said, you're not going to acquire the top FO man in the league then put him on the wing lol.


    Just read the description, I said he’s taking the face offs then playing on the wing.
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    Apr 9 at 10:48
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    Detroit isn't sending the 4th back. Starting price is a 3rd. If you want retention, that's what raises it to the 2nd.


    So a 3rd for glendenning straight up no retention is even?
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    Apr 9 at 10:51
    #6
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    Eric Staal didn't even get a 2nd

    Why would LG?

    😐
    Apr 9 at 10:53
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Eric Staal didn't even get a 2nd

    Why would LG?

    😐


    I changed it to a third.
    Apr 9 at 10:53
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    Detroit isn't sending the 4th back. Starting price is a 3rd. If you want retention, that's what raises it to the 2nd.


    For Luke Glendening?

    The ape in your profile picture is better

    I'll offer a 1st rounder for him no retention needed
    Apr 9 at 10:55
    #9
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    Quoting: brady_t12
    I changed it to a third.


    My counter offer is an 8th round pick 😉

    If the NHL happens to revert to the old format...

    You're in luck! If not uh well um. popcorn
    Apr 9 at 11:06
    #10
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    Why would the Sabres retain and take on Panik's contract?
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    Apr 9 at 11:08
    #11
    PlusMinus is stupid
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    Quoting: brady_t12
    So a 3rd for glendenning straight up no retention is even?

    Correct, that's a fair value.
    Apr 9 at 11:16
    #12
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    Not a chance the sabres do that
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    Apr 9 at 11:17
    #13
    Shibbal18
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    Panik would be a 13th forward for Buffalo, thats not enough to take him on and get Hall. Its not off astronomically, but the Sabres dont have disposable cap
    Apr 9 at 11:31
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    Detroit isn't sending the 4th back. Starting price is a 3rd. If you want retention, that's what raises it to the 2nd.


    How does retention for a UFA at the end of year drive up the price to a 2nd....
    Guy is 31 and has 11 points (3 goals, 8 assists) in 40 games. I do agree - 3rd is reasonable, with retention (which doesn't really affect the wings).
    Apr 9 at 11:34
    #15
    PlusMinus is stupid
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    Quoting: AllCaps_BestTeam
    How does retention for a UFA at the end of year drive up the price to a 2nd....
    Guy is 31 and has 11 points (3 goals, 8 assists) in 40 games. I do agree - 3rd is reasonable, with retention (which doesn't really affect the wings).

    It has to do fully with it restricting our ability to use the retention on more expensive contracts, not the amount itself.
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    Apr 9 at 11:37
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    It has to do fully with it restricting our ability to use the retention on more expensive contracts, not the amount itself.


    That makes sense - great point.
    Apr 9 at 11:40
    #17
    Boush
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    I would rather keep Siegy for the future, but overall I definitely don't hate these moves, and I think they all make sense. Good job.
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    Apr 9 at 12:37
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    it won't be that easy for WSH to move Hags or Panik.
    2 more years of those bad contracts.
    If you are lucky, you convince Seattle to take one of them. They probably aren't taking TJO
    Apr 9 at 3:42
    #19
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    Regardless of the value, I do like the team that's here. I think Glendening would be a nice addition, and Hall would be a nice punch to add into the lineup, but I am worried about how every team he goes to turns into an instant dumpster fire
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    Apr 9 at 6:23
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    Quoting: pharrow
    it won't be that easy for WSH to move Hags or Panik.
    2 more years of those bad contracts.
    If you are lucky, you convince Seattle to take one of them. They probably aren't taking TJO


    Hagelin is serviceable, just has stone hands and can’t score to save his life it seems. He’s still fast and a fantastic PK guy, just too much money right now. Hopefully the cost to move him isn’t astronomical.

    Panik seems pretty much invisible every night. Not bad, just not good. Maybe he needs a bigger role somewhere, but I think he’s just going to end up being dumped somewhere and take league minimum contracts in the future as a bottom line guy.
    Apr 9 at 6:25
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    Quoting: Boush
    I would rather keep Siegy for the future, but overall I definitely don't hate these moves, and I think they all make sense. Good job.


    My thinking is that our left side is set for the near future with Orlov, Dillon, Fehervary, Alexyev, and Geisser if he pans out. Dillon is probably gone before his contract is up, and hopefully the caps are extending orlov before he’s a UFA. Siegenthaler is already getting shafted my the organization, so I’d be fine with seeing him go in a package to bring someone who will impact us now or help us shed salary.
    Apr 9 at 6:30
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Panik would be a 13th forward for Buffalo, thats not enough to take him on and get Hall. Its not off astronomically, but the Sabres dont have disposable cap


    I see what you’re saying, if the second and third was changed to a first, would that get Buffalo to bite? I’d be a little hesitant to even make that trade, though.

    I think in most other years, Hall would be worth a lot more, but it seems like it’s a buyers market this year and the caps have options to look at as far as middle 6 scoring forwards who are cheaper than hall. Rakell, Iafallo, Brown, Foligno, or Granlund.
    Apr 9 at 7:03
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    Quoting: brady_t12
    Hagelin is serviceable, just has stone hands and can’t score to save his life it seems. He’s still fast and a fantastic PK guy, just too much money right now. Hopefully the cost to move him isn’t astronomical.

    Panik seems pretty much invisible every night. Not bad, just not good. Maybe he needs a bigger role somewhere, but I think he’s just going to end up being dumped somewhere and take league minimum contracts in the future as a bottom line guy.


    I know exactly what hags is. The whole can't score thing is why he's not serviceable.
    as for Panik, maybe a change is good. But no one is taking that from you for virtually nothing.
     
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