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What if you got these two players instead

Created by: sensonfire
Initial Creation Date: Apr 10, 2021
Published: Apr 10 at 8:35
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
These are the two players that the Leafs might still have today if Phil Kessel never came to Toronto.

Would you be Stanley Cup winners by now?

Let me know your thoughts :D
Trades
TOR
  1. Seguin, Tyler
DAL
    Drafted 2nd overall by Boston in 2010
    TOR
    1. Hamilton, Dougie
    CAR
      Drafted 9th overall by Boston in 2011
      Buyouts
      • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2021
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      2022
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      2023
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      TOR
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      26$81,500,000$95,049,741$0$0-$13,549,741
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      TOR
      Nylander, William
      $6,962,366
      RW, LW
      UFA - 4
      TOR
      Matthews, Auston
      $11,640,250
      C
      UFA - 4
      TOR
      Marner, Mitchell
      $10,903,000
      RW
      UFA - 5
      TOR
      Hyman, Zach
      $2,250,000
      LW, RW
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Tavares, John
      $11,000,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      DAL
      Seguin, Tyler
      $9,850,000
      C, RW
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      TOR
      Galchenyuk, Alex
      $1,050,000
      LW, C, RW
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Engvall, Pierre
      $1,250,000
      LW, C
      RFA - 2
      TOR
      Mikheyev, Ilya
      $1,645,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      TOR
      Barabanov, Alexander
      $925,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Kerfoot, Alexander
      $3,500,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 3
      TOR
      Simmonds, Wayne
      $1,500,000
      RW, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      TOR
      Rielly, Morgan
      $5,000,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      CAR
      Hamilton, Dougie
      $5,750,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Campbell, Jack
      $1,650,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      TOR
      Muzzin, Jake
      $5,625,000
      LD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      TOR
      Brodie, TJ
      $5,000,000
      RD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      TOR
      Hutchinson, Michael
      $725,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      TOR
      Dermott, Travis
      $874,125
      LD
      RFA - 1
      TOR
      Holl, Justin
      $2,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      TOR
      Bogosian, Zach
      $1,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Andersen, Frederik
      $5,000,000
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Vehvilainen, Veini
      $925,000
      G
      RFA - 1
      TOR
      Nash, Riley
      $2,750,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Brooks, Adam
      $725,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      TOR
      Spezza, Jason
      $700,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Thornton, Joe
      $700,000
      C, LW
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      TOR
      Marincin, Martin
      $700,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Taxi Squad
      TOR
      Duszak, Joseph
      $800,000 ($0)
      RD
      RFA - 1
      TOR
      Sabourin, Scott
      $700,000 ($0)
      RW
      UFA - 1

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      Apr 10 at 8:39
      #1
      Joined: Nov 2017
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      But then would they have been bad enough to get Marner and Matthews?
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      Apr 10 at 8:39
      #2
      bhavikp27
      Joined: Jun 2016
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      Cancel all trades, signings, waiver claims, every transaction after those picks then
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      Apr 10 at 8:41
      #3
      Joined: Jan 2017
      Posts: 1,725
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      None of the guys that came after would be on the team. Reilly might've been the only other one.
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      Apr 10 at 8:42
      #4
      Joined: Mar 2019
      Posts: 4,506
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      No they wouldn’t. That was a long time ago, and that would’ve changed so much things for Toronto. They wouldn’t have Tavares. Who knows if they would have Matthews, Nylander, Marner etc. because of having Hamilton and Seguin. They probably wouldn’t have Brodie, because they would have Hamilton, and Holl and they really like Holl so they would play him In the top 4, plus they would have to resign Hamilton. It hard to do these things, because no one knows how good they would be.
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      Apr 10 at 8:42
      #5
      Joined: May 2019
      Posts: 6,783
      Likes: 2,395
      it's the leafs, if they hadnt traded for Kessel they'd have lost the seguin lotto and burke would have drafted Ryan Murphy over Hamilton
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      Apr 10 at 8:45
      #6
      Joined: Jan 2017
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      it's the leafs, if they hadnt traded for Kessel they'd have lost the seguin lotto and burke would have drafted Ryan Murphy over Hamilton


      Oh god could you imagine. That dude was a bust. The likes of Dylan Mclrath.
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      Apr 10 at 8:50
      #7
      Joined: May 2019
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      Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
      Oh god could you imagine. That dude was a bust. The likes of Dylan Mclrath.


      im a leafs fan, i dont have to imagine. that year the leafs drafted Stuart Percy and Tyler Biggs at 25th and 22nd respectivly when Saad, Gibson, Danault, Rakell and Jenner were still on the board
      Oh, and they traded up for Biggs with pick a pick they traded up for....with the picks used on Rakell and Gibson.
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      Apr 10 at 8:52
      #8
      Joined: Jan 2017
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      im a leafs fan, i dont have to imagine. that year the leafs drafted Stuart Percy and Tyler Biggs at 25th and 22nd respectivly when Saad, Gibson, Danault, Rakell and Jenner were still on the board
      Oh, and they traded up for Biggs with pick a pick they traded up for....with the picks used on Rakell and Gibson.


      Well I'm a Rangers fan and we've got our own busts like Mclrath and Anderson so I feel your pain. Then again we've only recently started having 1sts and like none for a 4-5 year period.
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      Apr 10 at 9:19
      #9
      Joined: May 2018
      Posts: 21,672
      Likes: 6,811
      We have Matthews so it's all good
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      Apr 10 at 9:42
      #10
      NHL Trade Inspector
      Joined: Feb 2020
      Posts: 6,996
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      Quoting: SlickWilly
      But then would they have been bad enough to get Marner and Matthews?


      no but if u think about it lets pretend Burke never traded for Kessel nor traded up for biggs (Gibson and Rakell happened) and traded the pick that became Saad team would have been good enough to where yes Marner, Mathews, Nylander would not have happened but Pasta, Barzel, McAvoy would have. And Kadri would have still been with us along with possible JVR, Brown and Bozak
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