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Created by: jnowariak

Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 11, 2021

Published: Apr. 11, 2021

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I’m just very confused by the talk of trading for Foligno. He’d be good for a depth role and bring the “culture” but that’s all we have. And if Hall could be had for a 2nd or 3rd (which I kind of doubt) how he he not the guy you put on Fiala’s wing to get him the puck?

All of this assume the Wild are set on making an acquisition, which I’m not.

Trades

MIN

Hall, Taylor ($4,000,000 retained)

BUF

2021 2nd round pick (MIN)

MIN

Foligno, Nick ($1,500,000 retained)

CBJ

2021 3rd round pick (PIT)

Retained Salary Transactions

Devan Dubnyk: $2,166,666 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$81,500,000	$78,514,424	$0	$925,000	$2,985,576

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kaprizov, Kirill $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LW UFA - 1	Foligno, Nick -$125,000-$125,000 LW, C, RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Zuccarello, Mats $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 4
Hall, Taylor $0$0 LW NMC UFA - 1	Hartman, Ryan $1,900,000$1,900,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Fiala, Kevin $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Greenway, Jordan $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Eriksson Ek, Joel $1,487,500$1,487,500 C UFA - 1	Foligno, Marcus $2,875,000$2,875,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Parise, Zach $7,538,462$7,538,462 LW NMC UFA - 5	Sturm, Nico $725,000$725,000 C UFA - 2	Bonino, Nick $4,100,000$4,100,000 C, LW UFA - 1
Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Rask, Victor $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Suter, Ryan $7,538,462$7,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 5	Spurgeon, Jared $7,575,000$7,575,000 RD NMC UFA - 7	Talbot, Cam $3,666,667$3,666,667 G UFA - 3
Brodin, Jonas $4,166,667$4,166,667 LD NMC UFA - 1	Dumba, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 3	Kähkönen, Kaapo $725,000$725,000 G UFA - 2
	Cole, Ian $3,450,000$3,450,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Soucy, Carson $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Rau, Kyle $700,000$700,000 LW, C UFA - 1
Hunt, Brad $700,000$700,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Johansson, Marcus $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Mermis, Dakota $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD/RD UFA - 1
Johnson, Luke $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
Hammond, Andrew $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1
Cramarossa, Joseph $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1

Apr. 11, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.

RoyalBlueSabres

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Doesn't sound like the value is going to go as low as a single 2nd with 4mil retention.
The prices I have heard are a 1st or a 2nd, prospect, and third asset.

Gotta imagine with palmeri off the market hall is really the only winger left.

Apr. 11, 2021 at 9:56 a.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres

If I had to guess, Hall gets a 2nd and a B prospect like Toffoli did. I was using the “rumors” that GMs have said they don’t see Hall getting a 3rd. Then again, these are the same GMs that think Coots in PHI isn’t a top line C.

Apr. 11, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.

RoyalBlueSabres

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Quoting: jnowariak

I would say that's a pretty fair assessment of return. I think it kind of depends who is on Hall.

Apr. 11, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.

OutCold13

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I've heard the rumors, but I'm not buying them. I can't see how adding another LW helps the Wild. I'm totally against adding Hall. I hope it's all just speculation because Guerin is talking to the Sabres about Reinhart or possibly laying ground work for a future Eichel trade.

Apr. 11, 2021 at 10:35 a.m.

Viqsi

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Can definitely tell you Foligno's not going anywhere for that low. That said, I would be surprised if he goes to the Wild at all; the trade scenario that comes to mind involves a team chasing a Cup that needs the playoff experience. I'm not sure if that describes the Wild at this time.

Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:11 a.m.

ModanoisCool

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Russo has made clear Taylor hall rumors are a bunch of bs, & it's not happening

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Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:12 a.m.

ModanoisCool

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Quoting: jnowariak

Russo made it very very clear that wild aren't trading for Taylor hall

Only nick foligno Rumors are true

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Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

Russo made it very very clear that wild aren't trading for Taylor hall

Only nick foligno Rumors are true

You really are daft aren’t you? I’m confused why the Wild are “interested” in a 33 guy who doesn’t move the needle one way or the other and not a fast play maker to play with Fiala for roughly the same price. It makes zero sense to have interest in Foligno regardless any interest in Hall.

Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: OutCold13

They should be out on everybody unless it’s a longer term thing. My point here is, why are we interested in Foligno at all?

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Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.

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ModanoisCool

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Quoting: jnowariak

Cool to be calling someone stupid. Yop, what an ass response.

Maybe because as Russo made it clear, bill Guerin values leadership, & the fact is nick foligno can play c better than all wild current c's.

Nick foligno isn't being acquired to play wing

Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:23 a.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

Here’s the thing. I don’t think Foligno is definitively better than any of the option we currently have. And I’m well aware that Guerin values leadership but every single move he’s made has brought that in as the main piece. You need talent to win as well and can’t win on leadership alone.

Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

And FWIW, I called you daft since you didn’t read the purpose of the post. You just spewed the Russo rumblings all of us have heard back at me.

Apr. 11, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.

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OutCold13

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Quoting: jnowariak

They should be out on everybody unless it’s a longer term thing. My point here is, why are we interested in Foligno at all?

Yeah I just read in the Athletic that the Wild do have interest in Foligno at the right price. I assume they would see if he can still play center, but I don't personally think it's a great idea.

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