Forums/NHL Trades

(TOR/CBJ/SJS) - Foligno Noesen for Picks and Picks

Who won the trade?
The chart has been hidden

Poll Options


Apr 12 at 6:28
#101
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 627
Likes: 598
Meh, sure, it's an overpay. But at this point you gotta give something to get something. Foligno can be a miserable piece of s*it, who I'll love to have for a playoff run. He also isn't afraid of crashing and banging and can defend. It's a solid add at an overpay. Clearly a win for the Jackets though, for sure.


Quoting: Brian2016
I'd still rather have Palmieri and Zajac than Foligno and Nash. I realize the apology wouldn't have worked out as well without getting even more creative, but I think NYI are TDL winner so far. At least as far as the buyers go.


Lmao let's just forget that the Devils got Siegenthaler for basically nothing, yeah?
Apr 12 at 7:31
#102
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 240
Likes: 175
I think the Leafs galaxy brained this trade into existence.

I could see an argument that Foligno is a better fit, that he won't bring as much immediate scrutiny, and he will be able to help the team, and the only thing that he will be judged on is helping the team win. Hall on the other hand will be scrutinized quickly if he doesn't start to score, teammates will be asked about him constantly, and after the year they had last year, I think they wanted a quiet addition. So if you pursued Foligno at a lesser cost, and thought it was a better fit for what was actually needed, that would make sense.

However if you could have had Hall for a 2nd, likely add the same 4th to get salary retained a 2nd time, and a warm body, then I think they just talked themselves into Foligno being the better fit and got tunnel vision.

The curious thing to me is that Colorado was in on Foligno for a similar price, but didn't pay more than a 2nd for Hall, but either way, it feels like Toronto really decided they wanted the guy they determined was the best "fit" and overpaid pretty large to get him.

Columbus wins the deal hands down, you will never be able to argue they didnt' get max value. Toronto gets a useful player, the argument isn't that they acquired a player who isn't helpful, or that people won't like, but that was a heavy cost. Overall they have traded away a full drafts worth of picks over the next 2 years, including a 1st.

The thing that will mitigate this is that this is a uncertain draft, and this was a good year to target as a year you really went for it, but given that you can't get this aggressive too often, does Foligno feel like enough of a difference maker to be the net result of one of those big swings?
OldNYIfan liked this.
Apr 12 at 7:52
#103
Habs4Ever
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 5,246
Likes: 2,218
Quoting: Laudan
Imagine calling this "all in".....oh dear

and BOS just said BAAAAAM


I mean trading 1st + 3rd + 4th + 4th all for UFA players can be perceived as going "all in"
Saskleaf liked this.
May 31 at 10:50
#104
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 6,080
Likes: 3,641
oof
Jun 1 at 4:33
#105
The Ignoramus Cometh
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 433
Likes: 285
whelp.
Jun 1 at 6:43
#106
Habs4Ever
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 5,246
Likes: 2,218
Leafs have a combined 5 picks in the next 2 drafts... yikes Dubas
Jun 1 at 9:54
#107
Habs4Ever
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 5,246
Likes: 2,218
Quoting: drewjenkins
And I'd probably take a late 1st over Romanov + Caulfield to be honest.

Their both gonna end up on waivers in a couple years like Mete + Juulsen.

Which is kinda wild since they were both top-4 defensemen at 18.


I'm just curious, would you still take a late 1st for Caufield? Cause I'm 100% certain I'd take a late for for Sandin now.
A_Habs_fan liked this.
Jun 1 at 11:52
#108
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 861
Likes: 486
Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I'm just curious, would you still take a late 1st for Caufield? Cause I'm 100% certain I'd take a late for for Sandin now.


Sandin actually played well ....

How did Romanov play?
Jun 1 at 2:25
#109
Habs4Ever
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 5,246
Likes: 2,218
Quoting: drewjenkins
Sandin actually played well ....

How did Romanov play?


You think Sandin played well? Seriously?

I'd much rather have a player sitting than doing what Sandin did.
Jun 1 at 2:45
#110
Its Tru-deau
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 7,301
Likes: 3,726
Quoting: Saskleaf
Love the target, do NOT love the price. Dubas overpaid for a rental. This years playoffs had better be great for Toronto, luckily, Foligno will help with that.


And the playoffs were not great for Toronto. Awful trade in hindsight. Horrible.
Jun 1 at 2:51
#111
Its Tru-deau
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 7,301
Likes: 3,726
Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
You think Sandin played well? Seriously?

I'd much rather have a player sitting than doing what Sandin did.


Sandin was good I think.

Well, I guess he was kind of like Gardiner a bit...

He's great on the power play but otherwise he's not great.
KSIxSKULLS liked this.
Jun 1 at 2:58
#112
best poster
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 6,113
Likes: 5,546
Quoting: mondo
It's incredibly expensive for Toronto but the goal is the Stanley Cup and Foligno is a great third line winger who could stabilize a very effective shutdown line.

To be honest I'm happier giving up the first this year than one of Toronto's prospects.


Still hold this opinion. It's apart of all the what ifs Toronto gave us this playoffs but I'm very glad that Robertson and Amirov weren't shipped off. Not losing sleep over 27th overall.
Jun 1 at 3:00
#113
best poster
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 6,113
Likes: 5,546
Quoting: Saskleaf
Sandin was good I think.

Well, I guess he was kind of like Gardiner a bit...

He's great on the power play but otherwise he's not great.


Sandin had some defensive gaffes but he was alright for a rookie in his first playoffs. Probably the only guy I'd forgive for being a bit flustered in the last few games.
Saskleaf liked this.
Jun 1 at 6:18
#114
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 861
Likes: 486
Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
You think Sandin played well? Seriously?

I'd much rather have a player sitting than doing what Sandin did.


- He had 2 bad giveaways that lead to goals.
- He scored 1 nice, important goal.
- Outside of that he played well.

He's a teenager. I'm not concerned either way.

- Price made saves on Caufield's giveaways.
- So their not even worth mentioning.
- Outside of that he played very well.

Overall, Price won the series for Montreal.

+ Marner was terrible.
+ Matthews couldn't finish.
+ Tavares, Muzzin, Foligno hurt.

Nylander and Spezza stepped up nice, but so did Perry lol.
Saskleaf and Laniccal liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Submit Poll Edit