What VAN needs

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Created by: NotJimBenning

Team: 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 11, 2021

Published: Apr. 11, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Some sample trades that could be nice ways of shuffling some things around and giving the team a much needed new look. Obviously, such deals would force the Canucks into an immediate tank for the remainder of the season. However, pulling these moves off could lead to VAN opting for a 'retool,' rather than a full on rebuild - on top of creating enough cap space for our key FA's.

Trades

VAN

Carrick, Connor
Foote, Nolan
Jacobs, Josh
McLeod, Michael
Subban, P.K. ($2,250,000 retained)
2021 2nd round pick (NYI)

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with CBJ:

NJ retains 25% of P.K. Subban contract for the 2021-2022 season.

NJD

Baertschi, Sven ($1,346,666 retained)
Myers, Tyler
Schmidt, Nate
2021 5th round pick (VAN)
2022 7th round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with CBJ:

VAN retains 40% of Sven Baertschi contract for the remainder of the 2020-2021 season. As part of the deal, VAN trades Josh Jacobs and Jake Virtanen to CBJ in exchange for a 2022 conditional 7th round pick (TOR) and a 2022 3rd round pick (TBL) which will be sent to NJ as compensation for retaining P.K. Subban's contract, on top of the package sent to VAN.

VAN

Carlsson, Gabriel
2022 3rd round pick (TBL)
2022 7th round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with NJ:

CBJ trades a 2022 7th* round pick (TOR) and 2022 3rd round pick (TBL) to VAN.

* Conditional 7th round pick (TOR). If R. Nash plays in 25% of TOR playoff games, 2022 7th round pick turns into 2022 6th round pick.

CBJ

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with NJ:

VAN receives G. Carlsson, 2022 7th* round pick (TOR) and 2022 3rd round pick (TBL) from CBJ in exchange for Josh Jacobs, Jordie Benn and Jake Virtanen.

As part of trade, VAN trades 2022 3rd round pick (TBL) to NJ as compensation for 25% salary retained from P.K. Subban trade.

VAN keeps 2022 7th* round pick (TOR) as compensation for 40% salary retained on S. Baertschi as well as receives G. Carlsson as part of the Jacobs, Benn, Virtanen package.

VAN

Part of 3 team deal with CBJ:

NJ receives 2022 3rd round pick (TBL) for retaining 25% of P.K. Subban contract through the 2021-2022 season.

NJD

2022 3rd round pick (TBL)

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with CBJ:

Van trades 2022 3rd round pick (TBL) in exchange for NJ retaining 25% of P.K. Subban contract through the 2021-2022 season.

VAN

Vaakanainen, Urho
Zboril, Jakub
2021 3rd round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with NSH:

BOS trades a 2021 3rd* round pick (BOS) to VAN as compensation for VAN retaining 50% of A. Edler's contract as part of the deal. Also part of the deal, NSH retains $1,000,000 of A. Edler's contract.

* Conditional 2021 3rd round pick (BOS). If Boston makes it to the Stanley Cup finals, the pick turns into a 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)

BOS

Edler, Alexander ($3,000,000 retained)
Sautner, Ashton

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with NSH:

VAN trades J. Zboril to NSH for a 2021 4th* round pick (NSH) as part of the deal in exchange for NSH retaining $1,000,000 of A. Edler's deal.

* Conditional 2021 4th round pick (NSH). If NSH reaches conference finals, the pick turns into a 2021 3rd round pick (NSH)

VAN

Tolvanen, Eeli
2021 4th round pick (NSH)

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with BOS:

NSH sends 2021 4th* round pick to VAN as part of deal.

*Conditional 2021 4th round pick (NSH). If NSH reaches western conference finals, the pick turns into a 2021 3rd round pick (NSH).

NSH

Gaudette, Adam
Michaelis, Marc
Zboril, Jakub
2021 3rd round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

Part of 3 team deal with BOS:

VAN trades J. Zboril as compensation for NSH retaining $1,000,000 of A. Edler's salary in the BOS trade. VAN acquires E. Tolvanen in exchange for A. Gaudette, M. Michaelis, and a 2021 3rd* round pick (BOS) on top of the existing deal as part of NSH retaining salary from the 3 team trade with BOS.

* Conditional 2021 3rd round pick (BOS). If BOS makes the Stanley Cup finals, the pick turns into a 2021 2nd round pick (BOS).

VAN

Järnkrok, Calle

Additional Details:

Separate from 3 team trade with BOS:

NSH receives Z. MacEwen and O. Juolevi from VAN in exchange for C. Jarnkrok

NSH

Additional Details:

Separate from 3 team trade with BOS:

VAN receives C. Jarnkrok for Z. MacEwen and O. Juolevi

Buyouts

Ryan Spooner: $1,033,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Sven Baertschi: $1,346,666 (40%)
Alexander Edler: $3,000,000 (50%)

Recapture Fees

Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$67,094,378	$1,700,000	$7,675,000	$14,405,622

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 3	Pettersson, Elias $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C, LW UFA - 1	Boeser, Brock $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW UFA - 2
Tolvanen, Eeli $894,166$894,166 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 1	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 3	Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($200,000$200K) LW, RW RFA - 3
Vesey, Jimmy $900,000$900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 2	Motte, Tyler $1,225,000$1,225,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Roussel, Antoine $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2		Sutter, Brandon $4,375,000$4,375,000 RW, C M-NTC UFA - 1
Foote, Nolan $894,167$894,167 LW RFA - 4	McLeod, Michael $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $916,667$916,667 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 1	Subban, P.K. $6,750,000$6,750,000 RD UFA - 2	Demko, Thatcher $1,050,000$1,050,000 G UFA - 1
Carlsson, Gabriel $725,000$725,000 LD UFA - 2	Hamonic, Travis $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD NMC UFA - 1	Holtby, Braden $4,300,000$4,300,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Vaakanainen, Urho $894,167$894,167 ($425,000$425K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Carrick, Connor $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 1
	Chatfield, Jalen $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Pearson, Tanner $3,750,000$3,750,000 LW UFA - 1	Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 3
		Beagle, Jay $3,000,000$3,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2
		Bailey, Justin $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Eriksson, Loui $6,000,000$6,000,000 ($4,925,000$5M$4,925,000$5M) LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Lind, Kole $891,666$891,666 ($0$0$0$0) ($300,000$300K) RW UFA - 1
DiPietro, Michael $811,667$811,667 ($0$0$0$0) ($82,500$82K) G RFA - 2
Rafferty, Brogan $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 1
Boyd, Travis $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, RW UFA - 1
Hawryluk, Jayce $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, LW UFA - 1

Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:41 p.m.

Devil

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No way the Devils do that. They counter with Vatanen for Quinn Hughes

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Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.

Gofnut999

Joined: Jan. 2017

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Boston declines

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Apr. 11, 2021 at 11:59 p.m.

gmgb

Joined: Jun. 2017

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NSH doesn't want any of it, thanks.

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Apr. 12, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.

NotJimBenning

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NotJimBenning

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Quoting: Devil1122

No way the Devils do that. They counter with Vatanen for Quinn Hughes

That deal gives the devils more than enough pieces to swap around the blue line and find a better fit for the team, compared to what has been such a lacklustre season defensively. Sure, on paper such a swap seems less favourable, but in actuality, the pieces the devils receive are substantial enough to allow the team to make improvements offensively, or to sell off during the draft once the cap is announced. McLeod has been underperforming immensely, Carrick is buried in the AHL, and foote + the draft pick get cancelled out with the picks coming NJ's way.

Apr. 12, 2021 at 12:06 a.m.

Devil

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Quoting: MikeyG420

This trade does not help the Devils at all. Subban has been solid this year and he doesn't have negative value when retained. Mcleod is not underperforming at all. Carrick is a pending UFA, we will let him walk. Foote is one of our best prospects. We aren't trading picks. This is clearly in Vancouver's favor

Apr. 12, 2021 at 12:10 a.m.

leafs_and_devils

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Quoting: MikeyG420

we're literally 25 or younger acrpss the board excluding subban. i think we're good to take our time.
not trading foote. he is gonna be great next to nico next yr

Apr. 12, 2021 at 12:18 a.m.

NotJimBenning

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NotJimBenning

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Quoting: leafs_RtheBest

we're literally 25 or younger acrpss the board excluding subban. i think we're good to take our time.
not trading foote. he is gonna be great next to nico next yr

Quoting: Devil1122

Ah, I see you're both holding on to false hope. Asset accumulation, especially on the blue line is key for any rebuilding team. IMO I put too little coming VAN's way given how they've been performing this season. Your arguments are similar to leafs fans saying Kessel was the cause of their problems, or Calgary fans thinking they have a playoff calibre team... Realistically, those assets can be used at the draft to acquire 1st or 2nd rounders on top of roster players and prospects, on top of providing intangible value and improvements over the current roster D-men. This is why fans shouldn't be GM's

Apr. 12, 2021 at 12:21 a.m.

leafs_and_devils

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Quoting: MikeyG420

what assets? we're literally in a rebuild and tanking. ur funny if u think we're giving up foote to get rid of subban. jack doesn't need payment for another year. nico's locked up. we have no salary issues, and we're not getting back any valuable assets. we're giving away a valuable asset to solve a problem we don't have.

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Apr. 12, 2021 at 1:04 a.m.

KingDavis

Joined: May 2018

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This Mikey guy is straight up delusional if he actually thinks NJ would give up Foote, McLeod, and a 2nd for 3rd line pairing defenders 😂😂😂 maybe Schmidt is a second pairing but cmon man you can’t even justify this 😂😂

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Apr. 12, 2021 at 6:50 a.m.

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PuckYourself

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Gabriel Carlsson can barely stay in our lineup and mostly been a minor league guy. His biggest issue is his mental compete level. Despite having nice size for a D-Man he has been dissapointing and his battle level is not existent. So i am curious why your interest in him?

Apr. 12, 2021 at 8:14 a.m.

#11

Devil

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Quoting: MikeyG420

This is why you shouldn't be GM.

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What VAN needs

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VAN

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VAN

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VAN

BOS

VAN

NSH

VAN

NSH

Buyouts

Retained Salary Transactions

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