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May 5, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
#726
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Melnyk (and Ballard if we are talking all time).


That's a very good example, really.
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May 5, 2021 at 5:26 p.m.
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Why NHL teams have so many cancerous owners...haven't heard many positives on that regard. Pegula, Dolan, Gaglardi...I'm certain there's some names to add to the list.


There's a laundry list of terrible owners.

As Saskleaf mentioned, Ballard was beyond atrocious. One of the major reasons the Leafs have a 54-year cup drought was because for 15 years he ran the team on a budget. This was among other things, of course. I feel like Toronto is still atoning of their sins of his era.

Tampa Bay has a real fun owner history prior to Vinik. Aside of the carousel of rotating owners, it's believed they were apart of a yakuza money-laundering scheme in the mid 90s. Look up Kokusai Green if you want to know more. Aside from Davidson and now Vinik, everyone else whose been in charge there as run a dumpster fire.
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May 5, 2021 at 5:42 p.m.
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The Rangers are going to be contenders for the next decade or more, and it will be mostly because of Gorton’s work. All they have to do now is hope the new guy doesn’t screw it up.
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May 5, 2021 at 5:49 p.m.
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The Rangers are going to be contenders for the next decade or more, and it will be mostly because of Gorton’s work. All they have to do now is hope the new guy doesn’t screw it up.


To be completely fair NYR has also had some huge luck in the two latest drafts. But picks like Miller, Lundkvist etc. are result of very good scouting job, not to mention acquiring assets such as Zibby, Panarin etc.

I'm not counting Fox as a great acquisition because if I recall correctly he basically manhandled CGY and Canes to trade him to Rangers because he wouldn't agree to sign anywhere else. That's not something Gorton had big impact on.
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May 5, 2021 at 6:04 p.m.
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To be completely fair NYR has also had some huge luck in the two latest drafts. But picks like Miller, Lundkvist etc. are result of very good scouting job, not to mention acquiring assets such as Zibby, Panarin etc.

I'm not counting Fox as a great acquisition because if I recall correctly he basically manhandled CGY and Canes to trade him to Rangers because he wouldn't agree to sign anywhere else. That's not something Gorton had big impact on.


But none of this luck would of happened if Gorton did make the choice to rip a team that was sitting in a playoff spot at the TDL to the bone. It was a bold move but all good GMs know that you have to go all in on a rebuild, not this cheeky half rebuild thing most teams do. Like my Calgary Flames. Gorton could have sat in mediocrity for 2-3 years and started to rebuild in the last year or two, miss out on Laffy and Kakko and then get fired because his regime didn’t work. He still got fired but that’s a messy situation. Made a ballsy move and created a future Cup contender
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May 5, 2021 at 6:08 p.m.
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But none of this luck would of happened if Gorton did make the choice to rip a team that was sitting in a playoff spot at the TDL to the bone. It was a bold move but all good GMs know that you have to go all in on a rebuild, not this cheeky half rebuild thing most teams do. Like my Calgary Flames. Gorton could have sat in mediocrity for 2-3 years and started to rebuild in the last year or two, miss out on Laffy and Kakko and then get fired because his regime didn’t work. He still got fired but that’s a messy situation. Made a ballsy move and created a future Cup contender


Exactly this. I give huge credit to Gorton for pulling the chute on a team that was in the mix but just didn't have it.
May 5, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.
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But none of this luck would of happened if Gorton did make the choice to rip a team that was sitting in a playoff spot at the TDL to the bone. It was a bold move but all good GMs know that you have to go all in on a rebuild, not this cheeky half rebuild thing most teams do. Like my Calgary Flames. Gorton could have sat in mediocrity for 2-3 years and started to rebuild in the last year or two, miss out on Laffy and Kakko and then get fired because his regime didn’t work. He still got fired but that’s a messy situation. Made a ballsy move and created a future Cup contender


This is true.

Great GMs separate themselves from the good GMs by the amount of balls they have in a sense.

It's certainly a ballsy move to struggle for a while and build through youth. Especially if you're close to a playoff position.
May 5, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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This is true.

Great GMs separate themselves from the good GMs by the amount of balls they have in a sense.

It's certainly a ballsy move to struggle for a while and build through youth. Especially if you're close to a playoff position.


Yeah, Montreal could’ve maybe used it, instead of failing, getting Kk and immediately trying to contend again
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May 5, 2021 at 7:08 p.m.
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Yeah, Montreal could’ve maybe used it, instead of failing, getting Kk and immediately trying to contend again


Bergevin will pay for that through losing his job, eventually.

Only a matter of time if you ask me.
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May 5, 2021 at 7:10 p.m.
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Bergevin will pay for that through losing his job, eventually.

Only a matter of time if you ask me.


He doesn't have a choice tho. Price un-officially runs this team. And he wants to please Price
May 5, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
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It's already 1-0. Please fire EVERYONE, just clean house already.
May 5, 2021 at 7:15 p.m.
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It's like the 11th time this year that the other team scored like 5 minutes in.
May 5, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
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May 5, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
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If I stick someone in the face and it draws blood. 4minutes.

If I shoulder someone in the face and it draws blood. 2 minutes. Weird.
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May 5, 2021 at 7:32 p.m.
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Dallas had a game vs Florida with 138 PIM combined. Rags and Caps already have 72 PIM combined.
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May 5, 2021 at 7:32 p.m.
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This rangers game is so entertaining
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May 5, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.
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Come one, K'Andre, destroy Wilson, you're bigger than him
May 5, 2021 at 7:37 p.m.
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At this point, might as well cancel the game and turn the Garden into a giant wrestling match.

Bring in wrestlers from WSH and from NYC and let them go at it
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May 5, 2021 at 7:39 p.m.
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Chara to the box now. 5vs3 for us.
May 5, 2021 at 7:40 p.m.
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Man f*ck my TV channels. I don't want to watch Montreal and Ottawa (I'm sorry to all of the Habs and Sens fans, but it's way more boring than the NYR vs CAP matchup tonight)
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May 5, 2021 at 7:42 p.m.
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Seguin's full value after his come back. Very nice.

He has the same amount of goals this season as he had in the latest playoffs.
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May 5, 2021 at 7:44 p.m.
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Seguin with a goal per game ratio. He has a better goal per game pace than Matthews... Just incase not everybody gets this joke, it's only joke don't be mad.
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May 5, 2021 at 7:45 p.m.
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Seguin with a goal per game ratio. He has a better goal per game pace than Matthews... Just incase not everybody gets this joke, it's only joke don't be mad.


Clear hart contender.
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May 5, 2021 at 7:45 p.m.
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https://twitter.com/greenbird122575/status/1390086280030076937?s=20
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May 5, 2021 at 7:54 p.m.
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It's now at 100 combined PIM between the Rags and the Caps.
 
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