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(CHI/SJS/VGK) - Janmark for DeSimone for picks

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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.
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Trade confirmed: Chicago Blackhawks - San Jose Sharks - Vegas Golden Knights
Trade Details
San Jose Sharks Acquire:
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From CHI:
Mattias Janmark ($1,125,000 retained - 50%) · $1,125,000$1,125,000$0
From VGK:
2022 5th round pick (BUF - #138 - Sergei Ivanov)
Sum: $562,500$562,500$0
Change: +$562,500
Change: +$562,500
Change: -$225,000
Vegas Golden Knights Acquire:
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
From SJS:
Mattias Janmark ($562,500 retained - 50%) · $562,500$562,500$0
Nick DeSimone · $0$700,000$225,000 (AHL/JR)
From CHI:
2022 5th round pick (CHI - #135 - Nikita Grebenkin)
Sum: $562,500$562,500$0
Change: +$562,500
Change: +$562,500
Change: $0
Chicago Blackhawks Acquire:
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
From VGK:
2021 2nd round pick (VGK - #62 - Colton Dach)
2022 3rd round pick (VGK - #81 - Samuel Savoie)
Sum: $0$0$0
Change: -$1,125,000
Change: -$1,125,000
Change: +$110,250,000
Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:03 p.m.
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Nice trade Stan.
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Well thanks for the 5th I guess... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Man SJS now acquires 2 basically free draft picks
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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We got more for janmark than Buffalo got for Hall hahaha
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
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Pretty fair trade all around. Janmark is definitely a great add for VGK.
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
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Steal for Chicago. Just one of those picks would have been an overpay.
Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:07 p.m.
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Great for Chicago, about as much as Sabres got for Hall
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:09 p.m.
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I tend to be pretty hard on Bowman but that's a great trade for Chicago.
He got more than Taylor hall lol
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:17 p.m.
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San Jose Sharks:

Traded away a player that should have no trade value and who you might as well place on waivers.

Got a 5th round pick for retaining 562K in salary when the Leafs got a 5th round pick for retaining 1.1 million on Lehner.

A win for San Jose.


Chicago Blackhawks:

Janmark is underated and Chicago's return is not as good compared to what New York or Detroit got at the time for Zuccarello or Nyquist.

The picks going to Chicago can't upgrade based on any conditions.

Now, you're probably thinking Janmark is not like Zucc or Nyquist, which is true.

However, centres are more important than wingers because they make plays, take faceoffs and can score points too, among other reasons.

Championship teams are more often built around their centres than around their wingers.

Chicago also spends a 5th round pick unnecessarily and retain over a million in salary.

A loss for Chicago.



Vegas Golden Knights:

Janmark's performance and production will take off, now that he's on a better team.

An underrated player who can play either on the wing or at centre, he can also play top six minutes and produce points at a good rate.

Vegas gets a 5th round pick on top.

And Janmark is brought in at a cap hit of only 562K and it only cost a 2nd and 3rd.

Wow!

Big win for Vegas!



In Vegas we trust!

I voted for the Vegas Golden Knights.
Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire

Now, you're probably thinking Janmark is not like Zucc or Nyquist, which is true.
However, centres are more important than wingers because they make plays, take faceoffs and can score points too, among other reasons.


Just as an FYI...Janmark is a winger. Not a center. Hasn't played center 1 time for the Hawks....nor the past 2 years with Dallas either. Janmark has a total of 16 ATTEMPTS at the dot. He usually isn't even the 2nd option when the center gets tossed.
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:23 p.m.
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Just as an FYI...Janmark is a winger. Not a center. Hasn't played center 1 time for the Hawks....nor the past 2 years with Dallas either. Janmark has a total of 16 ATTEMPTS at the dot. He usually isn't even the 2nd option when the center gets tossed.


Why would capfriendly label him as a centre then?
Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
San Jose Sharks:

Traded away a player that should have no trade value and who you might as well place on waivers.

Got a 5th round pick for retaining 562K in salary when the Leafs got a 5th round pick for retaining 1.1 million on Lehner.

A win for San Jose.


Chicago Blackhawks:

Janmark is underated and Chicago's return is not as good compared to what New York or Detroit got at the time for Zuccarello or Nyquist.

The picks going to Chicago can't upgrade based on any conditions.

Now, you're probably thinking Janmark is not like Zucc or Nyquist, which is true.

However, centres are more important than wingers because they make plays, take faceoffs and can score points too, among other reasons.

Championship teams are more often built around their centres than around their wingers.

Chicago also spends a 5th round pick unnecessarily and retain over a million in salary.

A loss for Chicago.



Vegas Golden Knights:

Janmark's performance and production will take off, now that he's on a better team.

An underrated player who can play either on the wing or at centre, he can also play top six minutes and produce points at a good rate.

Vegas gets a 5th round pick on top.

And Janmark is brought in at a cap hit of only 562K and it only cost a 2nd and 3rd.

Wow!

Big win for Vegas!



In Vegas we trust!

I voted for the Vegas Golden Knights.




I've seen you post multiple times now... Lehner hasn't been traded he is still with Vegas... Dubnyk was traded, but the the sharks didn't retain any salary. But yes still a win for san jose all the trades they have done are basically cap or players who weren't going to be worth anything for picks so win all around, but not Lehner.
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
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SJS got fleeced. Like 400k of cap space is trending at about a 4th right now through several trades.

They retained 560k and only got a 5th.
Apr. 12, 2021 at 3:31 p.m.
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Janmark has looked decent before, but his fancy stats were horrific this year. VGK easily could've given lower picks.
Apr. 12, 2021 at 4:17 p.m.
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Sharks legends Mattias Janmark, Nick Foligno and Mike Hoffman. Stats won't be revealed, because it's too soon.
Sharks win because I want them to lmao
But really the Blackhawks win getting a premium haul for a middle sixer
Apr. 12, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
Man SJS now acquires 2 basically free draft picks


They more bought draft picks for cash (and cap space). But not every owner is willing to take the 1/4 or 1/5 swing at an NHLer (much lower for impact NHLer) for a few hundred k that a 4th or 5th is
Apr. 12, 2021 at 4:55 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
San Jose Sharks:

Traded away a player that should have no trade value and who you might as well place on waivers.

Got a 5th round pick for retaining 562K in salary when the Leafs got a 5th round pick for retaining 1.1 million on Lehner.

A win for San Jose.


Chicago Blackhawks:

Janmark is underated and Chicago's return is not as good compared to what New York or Detroit got at the time for Zuccarello or Nyquist.

The picks going to Chicago can't upgrade based on any conditions.

Now, you're probably thinking Janmark is not like Zucc or Nyquist, which is true.

However, centres are more important than wingers because they make plays, take faceoffs and can score points too, among other reasons.

Championship teams are more often built around their centres than around their wingers.

Chicago also spends a 5th round pick unnecessarily and retain over a million in salary.

A loss for Chicago.



Vegas Golden Knights:

Janmark's performance and production will take off, now that he's on a better team.

An underrated player who can play either on the wing or at centre, he can also play top six minutes and produce points at a good rate.

Vegas gets a 5th round pick on top.

And Janmark is brought in at a cap hit of only 562K and it only cost a 2nd and 3rd.

Wow!

Big win for Vegas!



In Vegas we trust!

I voted for the Vegas Golden Knights.


This is an incredibly uneducated and uninformed analysis.
Any pick for a few hundred k in cap retention is a good deal.
Janmark is nothing more than a bottom 6 winger. He is not comparable at all to Zuc. Getting a 2nd and 3rd for a bottom 6 forward should be a win in anyone's book.
Janmark will not sniff Vegas' top 6. A 2nd, 3rd, and worse 5th is an overpay for what Janmark will contribute. Every Hawks fan was hoping to possibly get a 2nd but likely a 3rd for him.
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Apr. 12, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.
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Quoting: tim95030
I've seen you post multiple times now... Lehner hasn't been traded he is still with Vegas... Dubnyk was traded, but the the sharks didn't retain any salary. But yes still a win for san jose all the trades they have done are basically cap or players who weren't going to be worth anything for picks so win all around, but not Lehner.


When I mentioned Lehner, I was referring to the trade that sent him to Vegas on February 24th, 2020.
Apr. 12, 2021 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyplayer1
This is an incredibly uneducated and uninformed analysis.
Any pick for a few hundred k in cap retention is a good deal.
Janmark is nothing more than a bottom 6 winger. He is not comparable at all to Zuc. Getting a 2nd and 3rd for a bottom 6 forward should be a win in anyone's book.
Janmark will not sniff Vegas' top 6. A 2nd, 3rd, and worse 5th is an overpay for what Janmark will contribute. Every Hawks fan was hoping to possibly get a 2nd but likely a 3rd for him.



This trade can be looked at from multiple angles.


562K is not even minimum wage for an NHL player anymore.

That's what Vegas is going to pay Janmark for their cup run and for some reason, fringe AHL players are going to make more than Janmark.



Janmark has blossomed into a decent NHL player who mostly played over 15 minutes a night for the Hawks.

He was undervalued when he played for the Hawks and he'll be grossly undervalued when he plays for Vegas.



I think Vegas got a good player and paid a very affordable price for him because those two picks going to Chicago are going to be late.

At least one of those picks probably won't be turned into a full-time NHL player.


I'm in the minority obviously but I really like this trade for Vegas smile
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May 29, 2021 at 8:01 a.m.
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Game 7 hat trick...that probably made this trade a fair trade.
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Jul. 9, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
Man SJS now acquires 2 basically free draft picks


They only got one
Jul. 11, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.
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They only got one


He's talking about Folingo too.
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Jul. 11, 2021 at 5:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
He's talking about Folingo too.


Oh
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