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(DET/WSH) - Mantha for Pánik, Vrána, 2021 1st, 2022 2nd

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Apr 12 at 3:57
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I was pretty meh on the return when I saw Vrana + Panik, but once I saw there was a 1st and 2nd as well, my jaw hit the floor. Absolutely nuts
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Apr 12 at 3:58
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Quoting: Laniccal
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Apr 12 at 3:58
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2nd to dump Panik

Vrana and a first for Mantha.

Vrana and Mantha are pretty equal, tip of the hat to Mantha.... the other part is a cap dump.
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Apr 12 at 3:58
Black Lives Matter
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I don't understand this trade for Washington. Detroit wins IMO.
Apr 12 at 3:59
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This trade definitely made up for one of the most underwhelming trade deadlines ever. Good move by the Red Wings IMO.
Apr 12 at 4:05
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Yzerman has just announced himself on the world stage with this trade! DET will be back strong!!!
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Apr 12 at 4:06
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The biggest surprise I've seen during this TDL.
Apr 12 at 4:07
Swedish Caps fan
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*Crying in fetal position*
Very Angry
Apr 12 at 4:08
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I don't understand this trade for Washington. Detroit wins IMO.

maybe their goal was Ovechkin + Backstrom + Mantha
Apr 12 at 4:11
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This is a lite version of the Shanahan trade.
Paul Coffey for Brendan Shanahan
Keith Primeau Brian Glynn
1997 1st round pick

Although it looked like an overpayment from Detroit they ended up winning the Cup. Mantha as the big power forward certainly has the biggest upside of any of the players in this trade.
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Apr 12 at 4:11
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I'm a big fan of Mantha, and he does add a slightly different style of play than Vrana, but the difference between them isn't that large. Certainly not a first and a second, even with a small cap dump. Well done Yzerman
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Apr 12 at 4:11
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Not having to watch Mantha look like he's skating through quicksand every night just makes my day
Apr 12 at 4:13
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The Caps got a great player but gave away much too much for him. Never would have included Vrana, personally.
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Apr 12 at 4:17
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Am I missing something? Watched a few red wings games and atleast in those Mantha played really badly. Was a defensive liability, looked uninterested etc. I was thinking that guy is going to get his contract bought out in a year or two. How is he worth this now? All off Vranas stats are better and although contract expiring its still RFA. Cant imagine it being much more than Manthas 5.7M/year atleast.
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Apr 12 at 4:18
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Stevie Yzerman is the goat.

Brian MacLellan went from being an architect of a stanley cup winner to a below average ACGM on capfriendly.

He has an account on here and he used it for voting for the Capitals on this trade to make himself feel better.


I voted for the Detroit Red Wings.

No need to explain why.
Apr 12 at 4:22
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: mondo
I guess it wasn't enough for Yzerman to sweep Washington in the Stanley Cup finals.

HEY! WTF man .... didnt have to bring that up also....this was bad enough
Apr 12 at 4:22
Let's go Pens!
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This is THE WORST TRADE for a team that I've seen in MANY YEARS. Washington gave up their heart and soul for a player which is not even at his best form and he's still a injury prone. Yzerman is a GREAT GM, indeed. But Caps GM being SO STUPID helped him A LOT.
Apr 12 at 4:25
Tony The Sopranos
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my only guess as to why this trade was made is to make room to sign ovi

but....that still doesn't explain why they traded a first???
Apr 12 at 4:32
GM GameV4 Arizona GM
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Holy cow, Steve Yzerman is a genius, I’m trading you Suzuki, Romanov, Kk, Caufield, Primeau and all our picks to get his rights so he can be our GM
Apr 12 at 4:47
a Jerk
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Steve Yzerman! Detroit wins!
Apr 12 at 5:00
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Mantha is the better player in this deal and makes WASH a better team right now. Vrana is a good player as well. Panik was a camp dump. I'm only struggling to understand why both a 1st and 2nd got included. Seems like one or the other for a fair deal. Not both.
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Apr 12 at 5:01
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Mantha's contract length gives him extra value. That's the only answer I have for Washington not being crazy
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Apr 12 at 5:30
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Vrana is a really good player, but I have to say Mantha is even better. Detroit gets a bunch of pieces, but I do think Washington walks away with the best player. As interesting it is to see Vrana with more playing time, you can't forget Mantha gets the better teammates where he's going. I think a lot of people saying Detroit won this are going to change their mind as Mantha looks great in with the Caps. I think reality is in between that, as this benefits both teams, and that we saw a good, unexpected hockey trade today.
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Apr 12 at 5:39
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Okay now that is a terrible trade for WSH to make imo. Does Mantha move the needle that much that it justified a 1st plus a solid middle six NHLer in Vrana? Doesn't feel like it to me..
Apr 12 at 6:06
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Someone call the cops cause the Wings just robbed the Capitals.
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