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Creative Cap Space and Moves

Created by: CaptJosef
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 13, 2021
Published: Apr. 13, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
5$4,000,000
1$1,050,000
1$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,500,000
2$1,050,000
2$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Giroux, Claude
2$4,000,000
Trades
1.
PHI
OTT
  1. Giroux, Claude
  2. O'Brien, Jay [Reserve List]
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
Giroux get bought out by the Sens (or any team looking to artificial inflate their cap). The buyout costs them $3.6m in real money split over 2 years but inflates their cap by $5.6m then $1.3m. They get a pick and a B prospect for their cash. Flyers re-sign G. It's still a legal move as far as I can tell.
2.
PHI
ANA
  1. Voracek, Jakub ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
Seattle are paid off to accept a trade for Voracek (with retention) and select a UFA contract from the Flyers at the expansion. Essentially selecting Voracek at a reduced cap hit.
3.
PHI
  1. Ekholm, Mattias
Additional Details:
Comes with an agreed extension in the $6.5-7.5 range.
NSH
  1. Myers, Philippe
  2. Rubtsov, German [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
4.
PHI
CAR
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
Trade for Hamilton's expiring contract for the early negotiation opportunity.
5.
PHI
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Braun, Justin ($800,000 retained)
  2. 2022 5th round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
Any team to recoup some picks traded away.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
2022
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the STL
2023
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$72,043,095$0$1,025,000$9,456,905
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,050,000$1,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Giroux, Claude
$4,000,000$4,000,000
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$863,333$863,333
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
RFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD, LW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,075,000$1,075,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$950,000$950,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Apr. 13, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
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You can't have retention on a expansion pick. You can with extra players but not the actual pick
Apr. 13, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
You can't have retention on a expansion pick. You can with extra players but not the actual pick


Seattle wasn’t picking Voracek. It was said they take an expiring contract and trade for Voracek.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Springer0397
Seattle wasn’t picking Voracek. It was said they take an expiring contract and trade for Voracek.


Ah I miss read it
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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In this senecio would Philly be allowed to sign Giroux? I’m not 100% sure. Ik you can’t sign a player that YOU bought out.
Apr. 13, 2021 at 1:11 p.m.
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In this senecio would Philly be allowed to sign Giroux? I’m not 100% sure. Ik you can’t sign a player that YOU bought out.


They trade him to Ottawa for them to buy him out then resign him
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Springer0397
In this senecio would Philly be allowed to sign Giroux? I’m not 100% sure. Ik you can’t sign a player that YOU bought out.


As flyersarephilly said Ottowa are buying him out in my scenario. That said The Flames bought out the final year of Michael Stone and then re-signed him a month later at a lower total cap hit. Turns out it was only players bought out with the compliance buyouts in 2013 and 2014 that you couldn't be re-signed until a year had passed.
Apr. 13, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
They trade him to Ottawa for them to buy him out then resign him


G has an NMC, why would he sign on for this?
Apr. 13, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.
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Quoting: MGabes19
G has an NMC, why would he sign on for this?


Don't think he does was just stating what was written in the trade
Apr. 13, 2021 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: MGabes19
G has an NMC, why would he sign on for this?


He ends up with more money. He'll get paid $5m next season in the last year of his current deal. With the buyout money and a new $4m contract he'd actually get over $6m next season and over $5m for the second year. Plus it helps the team cap wise, meaning they'd be more competitive. It's what The Caps did with Orpik a few seasons back. Traded him to The Avs who bought him out, re-signed with The Caps at about $1m.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: CaptJosef
He ends up with more money. He'll get paid $5m next season in the last year of his current deal. With the buyout money and a new $4m contract he'd actually get over $6m next season and over $5m for the second year. Plus it helps the team cap wise, meaning they'd be more competitive. It's what The Caps did with Orpik a few seasons back. Traded him to The Avs who bought him out, re-signed with The Caps at about $1m.


Holy **** this is genius, why aren't more teams/players doing this? It sounds like there has to be a rule against this lol.
Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:13 p.m.
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Quoting: MGabes19
Holy **** this is genius, why aren't more teams/players doing this? It sounds like there has to be a rule against this lol.


I mean it has been done before, but finding a team to buy out a player on you behalf isn't that easy I guess? There's probably only a limited number of players it's useful for in a given season (I.e. a player in the last year of their deal on a high cap but lower salary, therefore probably towards the end of their career, who is still good enough that you'll want to re-sign them, and who actually has to accept the situation in the first place).
 
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