Wilson is a rare breed I don’t see them trading him

I just posted almost this exact same comment on another similar thread:

If they fail to win a cup your decision is to downgrade from one of the best possession players and play drivers in the league, and use his money for Tom Wilson? ... that doesn't seem too smart at all. Seems like an overreaction to me

A rare breed that can't stay out of the box or the principal's office?

Leafs have absolutely no picks in the next couple drafts lmao.

I doubt very much that the caps move a guy like Wilson, let alone for Nylander

One top of that give up a first and depth player for Nylander lol

Clearly you don’t watch many caps games. As a Pens fan I would be very happy if caps traded Wilson for Nylander. Wilson is the type of player everyone hates, unless you have him on your team. Players of Wilson’s skill/ physicality are a rare breed nowadays. He’d even be better if he didn’t do so many dirty plays.

Don't know why you're jumping to insults?

Nylander actually is good without playing with anyone of those 3 players and there's stats to show it. Nylander is an elite possession player that drives play. He's excellent in zone entries and is just as dangerous passing the puck as he is shooting it. Points isn't everything in hockey, that's why so many teams use analytics to determine how good a player is. Remember how Jonthan Cheechoo had 56 goals 1 season? Does that make him an elite goal scorer in your mind? Forgetting that he never came close to it other than that season and the fact that he played with Joe Thornton that season?

Tom Wilson is a 40 point guy that plays physical and crosses the line far too much. He's best suited for a middle 6 role based on that, but again if he didn't have that elite playmaking centre as he's had in Kuznetzov and Backstrom, he wouldn't have 40 points. He doesn't drive play, he isn't that great at zone entries, he's not good defensively - which would make him a bottom 6 option without that centre. Wilson is a fan favourite in Washington which apparently makes him extremely valuable on this site for some reason, I'm not sure why. Nylander has proven he's an elite talent in the league but people on here seem to hate him just because he doesn't play physical and he's on Toronto. A lot of players don't play physical. They're still elite and far better than Wilson. Do you think Huberdeau is better than Wilson? Because Nylander is the same version of player that Huberdeau is. Nylander is just younger.

You can love Wilson all you want, people have their favourite players. But just because they're you're favourite player doesn't add value. 32 teams in the league would rather have Nylander over Wilson on their team in any season.

what skill? because he plays a physical game and he's in front of the net a lot?

Nylander:
CorsiFor: 55.3%
FenwickFor%: 54.6%
xGF: 17.5
xGA: 8.9
xGF/xGA difference: 8.6

Wilson:
CorsiFor: 48.6%
FenwickFor%: 47.3%
xGF: 10.7
xGA: 4.4
xGF/xGA difference: 6.3


Literally every stat favours Nylander. He creates far more offence and Wilson is just the physical player. But that doesn't make him the better player.

Nyander is a dime a dozen type player. Wilson adds a physicals aspect that makes him hard to play against/ easy to play with. The fact you think Nylander can produce without elite talent is laughable but i digress. Great example... Washington put Wilson on the top line and the Capitals won a cup... he added something that was able to push this team over the edge to greatness. Nylander isnt anything special tbh but You can love Nylander all you want, people have their favourite players. But just because they're you're favourite player doesn't add value. 32 teams in the league would rather have Wilson over Nylander on their team in any season. Just look who your team is trading for in this thread lol


lol reporting people.... you seem like the type

Sorry, but after the first sentence I can't seem to take this comment seriously. I wonder if you watch hockey after something like that. Sure I disagree with you, and I have stats and facts to prove you wrong. You can argue how valuable a guy is to a team till night is day, you wouldn't know the answer anyways only the team would. But when Toronto is a clear puck possession team and Nylander is one of the elite puck possession and play driving players in the game, they're not gonna move him for someone like Wilson. But I guess elite play driving and puck possession players are a "dime a dozen" type players.

I seriously don’t know why I bother. If a pens fan is telling you that Wilson means more to Washington than Nylander ever could, then clearly you’re wrong lol.

Nylander is definitely the more skilled / talented player but Wilson just brings something so unique. In an all star game I’d rather have Nylander, sure

lol this dude reported me so i dont care to continue conversating with him BUT makes "elite claims" for Nylander.


here's a good example Galchenyuk who has been a plug/ barely an AHL talent joined TML top 6 ...6 points in 12 games


51.75CF%....52.02FF%....62.96 xgf%

52.46CF% ....52.14FF% ....57.38xgf%

what player is the Elite possession player (nylander) and what player is the fringe NHL player (Galchenyuk).... its like surrounding a guy with elite talent helps? lol

Yeah TML love their own players.... imagine paying 6m for a player that has similar production as MAtthews and MArner

Lmao so true. I do like advanced stats but they can’t be the only thing you use. A lot of times it can be misleading.

yup... Wilson played with Kuzy .... and this dude thinks Kuzy is Crosby or something lmfao. Kuzy statistically last year made everyone he played with worse and is a horrible defensive player. lets see who would you rather play with Tavares and Matthews Or Backstrom and Kuzy ? lol oh boy this site

Wilson is more important to Caps than Nylander would be. Even if they wanted Nylander they couldn't afford the additional 2 millions of cap.

Caps wouldn't do it 1-for-1 and certainly wouldn't add a 1st.

It'd be very hard for the Leafs to miss the playoffs.

They'd not only have to lose most of their last 15 games, Vancouver or Calgary would have to win a majority of them. If the Flames lose tonight, the Leafs would sit at 61 current points, while the Flames could get 65 maximum points. A covid-riddled Canucks won't be much of a threat to the division.

Even if you have no confidence in this team, they'll still passive qualify for the playoffs.

hahaha this trade with the Caps cracked me up. Thanks for making my day!