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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 13, 2021
Published: Apr. 13, 2021
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Still before the playoffs 2021, after the trade deadline.
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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25$81,500,000$74,299,642$0$3,137,500$7,200,358
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833
G
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$737,500$737,500
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.
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Seriously?! Staal with Drouin and Anderson when KK was dominant with them last night! Staal is too slow he needs to be on the 4th line preferably as a winger or in the press box where he is not hurting the team, he is a -6 in 5 games! Lines based off of play alone should be

Tarta-Danault-Byron
Drouin-KK-Anderson
Toffoli-Suzuki-Perry
Lehkonen-Evans-Armia

Defense is good though
Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:38 p.m.
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Seriously?! Staal with Drouin and Anderson when KK was dominant with them last night! Staal is too slow he needs to be on the 4th line preferably as a winger or in the press box where he is not hurting the team, he is a -6 in 5 games! Lines based off of play alone should be

Tarta-Danault-Byron
Drouin-KK-Anderson
Toffoli-Suzuki-Perry
Lehkonen-Evans-Armia

Defense is good though


Staal been fine
Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:04 p.m.
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Staal been fine


He is slow and is pretty much invisible most of the time. He isn't creating chances and doesn't get the puck out of the D zone very well. The only thing he does well is win faceoffs.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
He is slow and is pretty much invisible most of the time. He isn't creating chances and doesn't get the puck out of the D zone very well. The only thing he does well is win faceoffs.


I understand your point, very good 🙂 so if he wins faceoffs...
Lines should be:

Tatar Danault Byron
Drouin Kotkaniemi Anderson
Toffoli Suzuki Perry
Lehkonen Staal Armia

Edmunson Weber
Kulak Petry
Romanov Merrill (even if i think Gustavson can take is place because Merrill cause turnover often ...) let’s see
Apr. 13, 2021 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
I understand your point, very good 🙂 so if he wins faceoffs...
Lines should be:

Tatar Danault Byron
Drouin Kotkaniemi Anderson
Toffoli Suzuki Perry
Lehkonen Staal Armia

Edmunson Weber
Kulak Petry
Romanov Merrill (even if i think Gustavson can take is place because Merrill cause turnover often ...) let’s see


Evans just brings more than Staal IMO. Staal strength is winning FO, Evans has speed, better defensive awareness, more of an offensive threat and wins FO at about 50% compared to Staal's 68% ish. FO are not as important as people would have you believe. For instance did you know 3 of the last 5 Cup winners had a team FO% of less than 50%? Keep Evans in and if you really want to keep Staal in replace Lehky with him and alternate Evans with Staal when there is an important draw
Apr. 13, 2021 at 8:50 p.m.
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Cedric Archambault
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Quoting: Campabee
Evans just brings more than Staal IMO. Staal strength is winning FO, Evans has speed, better defensive awareness, more of an offensive threat and wins FO at about 50% compared to Staal's 68% ish. FO are not as important as people would have you believe. For instance did you know 3 of the last 5 Cup winners had a team FO% of less than 50%? Keep Evans in and if you really want to keep Staal in replace Lehky with him and alternate Evans with Staal when there is an important draw


If you want to talk about lotto, maybe can you give us links to your stats, just curious tough 😁
Apr. 13, 2021 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
If you want to talk about lotto, maybe can you give us links to your stats, just curious tough 😁


What lotto are you talking about? The stat was on sportscaster yesterday around 5:30pm EST, but I am sure you can look the stats up on hockeyreference.com.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 10:24 p.m.
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Tampa Bay 19-20 FO % 50.5 see link

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/TBL/2020.html#all_team_stats

St Louis FO % 51.4% see link

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/STL/2019.html

Washington Capitals 50.4%

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/WSH/2018.html

Pittsburgh Penguins 47.6%

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/PIT/2017.html

Pittsburgh Penguins 50.2%

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/PIT/2016.html

Now that I provided the links I will add this. Those stats are for ALL players who took 1 or more draws, including wingers and D men who tend to inflate the team stat a bit. You can narrow down the stats by selecting only players who have taken more than say 250 draws over the course of the season to get a more accurate number but I didn't feel like doing that. Just a quick look at the the stats and you will see most of these teams only have 1 C higher than 50% one hovers around 50% and 2 or more are often below 47%. Take a look if you don't believe me. FO are not as critical as everyone makes them out to be.
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Apr. 14, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.
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Cedric Archambault
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Quoting: Campabee
Tampa Bay 19-20 FO % 50.5 see link

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/TBL/2020.html#all_team_stats

St Louis FO % 51.4% see link

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/STL/2019.html

Washington Capitals 50.4%

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/WSH/2018.html

Pittsburgh Penguins 47.6%

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/PIT/2017.html

Pittsburgh Penguins 50.2%

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/PIT/2016.html

Now that I provided the links I will add this. Those stats are for ALL players who took 1 or more draws, including wingers and D men who tend to inflate the team stat a bit. You can narrow down the stats by selecting only players who have taken more than say 250 draws over the course of the season to get a more accurate number but I didn't feel like doing that. Just a quick look at the the stats and you will see most of these teams only have 1 C higher than 50% one hovers around 50% and 2 or more are often below 47%. Take a look if you don't believe me. FO are not as critical as everyone makes them out to be.


Man you are a real one wink thank you, Heart Eyes
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