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Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 13, 2021
Published: Apr. 13, 2021
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Where do you have Luke Hughes ranked in your 2021 Mock Draft?

IMO, he should be ranked 1st overall.

You're getting a virtually guaranteed NHL player in a draft that is a complete crapshoot.

This pandemic has ruined the ability to scout high-quality prospects because you can't go and see these players play.

Many hockey games in leagues around the world have been cancelled and postponed, which really limits the sample size that can be used to judge these prospects and rank them accordingly.

One thing that Luke Hughes has, which none of the other prospects do have, is a family that is known for turning their sons into bona fide elite players in the NHL.

Jack Hughes and Quinn Hughes.

I'm pretty sure the Hughes family will do everything they can to make it happen for Luke as well.

What I find interesting about Luke Hughes is that there are quite a few similarities to his brother Quinn.

- Defenceman
- Shoots Left
- Fast and Fluid skater
- Can play offence or defence
- Eerily similar stats between Luke's current tenure with USNTDP and Quinn's tenure with USNTDP between 2015 - 2017.
- Quinn went to the University of Michigan before playing in the NHL and that's exactly what Luke plans to do as well.

I see a lot of Quinn Hughes in Luke Hughes.

I love for there to be a brotherly rivalry between the Canucks and the Sens over Quinn and Luke, just like between the Flames and the Sens over Brady and Matthew.

Like I said, there is so much uncertainty and this draft is a crapshoot.

I remember from the 2018 draft when people were screaming for us to pick Filip Zadina but we picked Brady Tkachuk instead and we took a lot of unfair criticism for it.

Picking Brady Tkachuk worked out beautifully for us :)

If you are choosing between another Quinn Hughes and every other draft eligible prospect that might turn into a bust, then the choice is obvious :D
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Traded to any team that would pay a low 2nd or a combination of draft picks that is equal to a low second.
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Hopefully, we trade him for a low pick, maybe for a 4th round pick, which we spent on him.

If he has no trade value, put him on waivers.

If he clears waivers, buy him out.
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Another brotherly rivalry I'm hoping to see, just like between Brady and Matthew Tkachuk.
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A pick that must be used to draft Luke Hughes, even if it's 1st overall.
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:)
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:D
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:46 p.m.
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I'm sure he'll get picked and make the NHL soon. As for whether having two successful brothers gets him picked first overall, just look at whether Marc Staal still has the same trade value as Eric Staal.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
I'm sure he'll get picked and make the NHL soon. As for whether having two successful brothers gets him picked first overall, just look at whether Marc Staal still has the same trade value as Eric Staal.


I guess the main point I was trying to make is that by picking Luke Hughes, you're getting certainty in a draft that is a complete crapshoot.
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That Quinn Hughes trade is miles off.
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That Quinn Hughes trade is miles off.


That's not the point.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:52 p.m.
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brady is much better than matt
Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:53 p.m.
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brady is much better than matt


That's great but that's not the point of my post.
Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.
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I'd probably have him 5-8. To me there's a pretty solid top 4, with some combination of Power, Beniers, Guenther and Ckarke. It widens from there, but I'd have Hughes at the top of the next tier of guys like Johnson, Hughes and Edvinsson.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:58 p.m.
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Ok well this is a very common misconception with the 2021 draft. What makes it a "crapshoot" is the lack of scouting that could be done this year for the later rounds, not the top end prospects. And what makes it a "weak draft" is the lack of superstar projected talent at the top. There is still a solid group of young players that will all very likely be NHLers in the top half of the 1st round. To elaborate, Matt Beniers (who I rank the clear #1) is still a better prospect than most of last years top 10, If he was eligible last year I would expect he goes somewhere around 4th to 6th, maybe even before Stutzle at 3rd.

Hughes will very likely be drafted in the top 5 but I don't see him going 1st OA
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 5:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I'd probably have him 5-8. To me there's a pretty solid top 4, with some combination of Power, Beniers, Guenther and Ckarke. It widens from there, but I'd have Hughes at the top of the next tier of guys like Johnson, Hughes and Edvinsson.


In your opinion, what are the odds that either Power, Beniers, Guenther or Clarke become busts?

In my opinion, if you can't decide who is the best player available (BPA), you should pick the safest player available (SPA).

I appreciate your thoughts though smile
Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ok well this is a very common misconception with the 2021 draft. What makes it a "crapshoot" is the lack of scouting that could be done this year for the later rounds, not the top end prospects. And what makes it a "weak draft" is the lack of superstar projected talent at the top. There is still a solid group of young players that will all very likely be NHLers in the top half of the 1st round. To elaborate, Matt Beniers (who I rank the clear #1) is still a better prospect than most of last years top 10, If he was eligible last year I would expect he goes somewhere around 4th to 6th, maybe even before Stutzle at 3rd.

Hughes will very likely be drafted in the top 5 but I don't see him going 1st OA


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Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I'd probably have him 5-8. To me there's a pretty solid top 4, with some combination of Power, Beniers, Guenther and Ckarke. It widens from there, but I'd have Hughes at the top of the next tier of guys like Johnson, Hughes and Edvinsson.


Clarke IMO has taken a bit of a fall, I would definitely take Hughes over him. Beniers and Power to me are the clear #1 and #2. After that you have a group of Lysell, Eklund Guenther, and Hughes. Followed by a group of Clarke, Johnson, Edvinsson, and Wallstedt
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:03 p.m.
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I have him 3rd he's not gonna be like Quinn
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:03 p.m.
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The narrative that this draft is a crapshoot is incredibly overblown. The majority of draft eligible/caliber players (certainly the higher end ones) have been playing in some capacity and NHL teams have the means to view them. Hughes being ranked #1 is a reasonable opinion, I certainly think he belongs in that conversation, but the main reasoning for that in the description, I think is absurd.
Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:23 p.m.
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Edvinsson has higher upside. Power has high ceiling, but for a 6’6” kid, he has to start playing like he is 6’6”. Clarke is kind of a mess, and probably long way from top-5. Hughes is pretty safe bet to be top pair guy.

For forwards, Eklund, Beniers, Guenther all appear to be top tier...and only forward candidates I see for #1 overall. Beniers gets the nod since he is only center in top-10.

1. Beniers
2. Edvinssson
3. Hughes
4. Lucius
5. Power
6. Eklund
7. Guenther
8. Wallstedt
9. Coronato
10. Sillinger
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.
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In your opinion, what are the odds that either Power, Beniers, Guenther or Clarke become busts?

In my opinion, if you can't decide who is the best player available (BPA), you should pick the safest player available (SPA).


Safe picks bust too.when it comes to drafting in the 1st round, especially at the top of the draft, you pick the piece you think is best and you have faith in your ability to develop him to the player he needs to be. Outside of getting a McDavid/Eichel/Matthews, nothing is a sure thing. You have to accept that there's going to be some level of risk, and that that level of risk is worth the ultimate goal of drafting an impact talent. Nothing ventured nothing gained as they say.

As far as this actual case I don't necessarily think any one player at the top of draft considerations is more likely to be a "bust" than any other (with the exception of Raty, who has really fallen off a cliff this year). As far as Luke Hughes is concerned, I see why you would consider him as a "safe pick" but I don't think he's that much more likely than anyone else to reach his full potential. If you're advocating for him because of downside, not upside, I think you're going to miss out on too much talent.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:54 p.m.
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In your opinion, what are the odds that either Power, Beniers, Guenther or Clarke become busts?

In my opinion, if you can't decide who is the best player available (BPA), you should pick the safest player available (SPA).

I appreciate your thoughts though smile


Power is a very safe bet, worst case you are looking at a Tyler Myers with him
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 6:58 p.m.
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Clarke IMO has taken a bit of a fall, I would definitely take Hughes over him. Beniers and Power to me are the clear #1 and #2. After that you have a group of Lysell, Eklund Guenther, and Hughes. Followed by a group of Clarke, Johnson, Edvinsson, and Wallstedt


Clarke is definitely a little raw, but his upside is one of the highest in the draft imo.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
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I have Beniers #1 after that I am currently leaning towards Hughes #2.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 7:41 p.m.
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Clarke is definitely a little raw, but his upside is one of the highest in the draft imo.


The skill set is raw. It’s the undisciplined approach that has hurt him. He is one where his time in Europe may have hurt him. He needs OHL restart.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 8:18 p.m.
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Luke Hughes was in my top three but I heard he had a pretty bad foot injury - right now Beniers, Edvinssson, Raty - but to put this draft in prospective Beniers has been described as almost as good as Lundell who was a 12th pick last year.
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Apr. 14, 2021 at 1:17 a.m.
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I think the biggest bust potential is Kent Johnson. Something about his game just makes me believe he won’t be the impact player people think he would be. Biggest sleeper to me is Sillinger. Best player is probably Beniers but honorable mention to Guenther.
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