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Canucks Trade with 21-22 Layout

Created by: Shakabakes
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 13, 2021
Published: Apr. 13, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Same trade I posted a little earlier, with a full Layout for 21-22.

Even with Edler coming off the books, the Canucks are pushed up against the Flat Cap. And it comes at a time when both Petterson and Hughes are coming off their ELC's, and would preferably like to be locked up long term.

The Rangers take on Eriksson's full Cap in the deal, providing Vancouver with much needed wiggle room. Considering the Leafs gave up a 1st to move Marleau's final year ($6.25M), the value is not far off (and it wasn't even a Flat Cap issue for Toronto).

Thought about going for the 2021 Pick. But considering the Canucks are in the neighborhood of having a Top 10 Pick, I figured they might balk at that (this is an Offseason trade, so we would all know for sure by then). Wait until 2022. It might be a higher Pick, but it's also a deeper Draft.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$5,250,000
2$2,750,000
2$2,000,000
5$6,000,000
1$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. 2022 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Howden, Brett [RFA Rights]
2.
NYR
ANA
  1. Gauthier, Julien [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Seattle
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,170,634$0$8,400,000$5,329,366
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 4
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
RFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Apr. 13, 2021 at 10:46 p.m.
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Van doesn’t need to give up that much to rid themselves of Eriksson
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 10:54 p.m.
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Van doesn’t need to give up that much to rid themselves of Eriksson


As noted with the past trade, it is well within the ball park.

With the Flat Cap and big extensions coming into play, it isn't far off in value at all.
Apr. 13, 2021 at 11:00 p.m.
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As noted with the past trade, it is well within the ball park.

With the Flat Cap and big extensions coming into play, it isn't far off in value at all.


If van retains 50% to a team that’s willing to buy him out after his bonus is paid out. The cap hit is only $2M this year and 500k next year for each team. Realistically could be dumped for a 3rd and a prospect and maybe a late round pick.
Apr. 13, 2021 at 11:36 p.m.
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If van retains 50% to a team that’s willing to buy him out after his bonus is paid out. The cap hit is only $2M this year and 500k next year for each team. Realistically could be dumped for a 3rd and a prospect and maybe a late round pick.


The two questions in that scenario are:

1) Who is your partner to make that 50% retained trade for the buyout? Most of the teams with space to do that deal need that space for their own RFA's this offseason. Was thinking maybe NJD (maybe Seattle would play ball?), but they have a lot of RFA's who need raises and some entering arb. They might not bite for a 3rd unless the prospect is very solid. Perhaps a 2nd in that case.

2) Does retaining $3 million even make the trade worth it for VAN? If the goal is cap relief, does retaining money while giving away multiple high-value assets really make it worth it?

Finally, does VAN even need to move Eriksson's contract? I know it would help, but the price is super high right now. Could they just buy him out or weather the storm and deal with the last year of it while also signing Petey and Hughes? I'm not up on VAN's situation so I ask looking for info.
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Apr. 13, 2021 at 11:53 p.m.
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The two questions in that scenario are:

1) Who is your partner to make that 50% retained trade for the buyout? Most of the teams with space to do that deal need that space for their own RFA's this offseason. Was thinking maybe NJD (maybe Seattle would play ball?), but they have a lot of RFA's who need raises and some entering arb. They might not bite for a 3rd unless the prospect is very solid. Perhaps a 2nd in that case.

2) Does retaining $3 million even make the trade worth it for VAN? If the goal is cap relief, does retaining money while giving away multiple high-value assets really make it worth it?

Finally, does VAN even need to move Eriksson's contract? I know it would help, but the price is super high right now. Could they just buy him out or weather the storm and deal with the last year of it while also signing Petey and Hughes? I'm not up on VAN's situation so I ask looking for info.


According to their page, the Canucks have about $16M in space, with 16 players signed (it says 13, I counted 16). If the plan is to lock up Hughes and Petterson long term, that eats up practically all of that. Then you still have 2 or 3 Roster spots to fill out. Couple other lesser RFA's to give a raise. It's tight.
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Apr. 14, 2021 at 12:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Shakabakes
According to their page, the Canucks have about $16M in space, with 16 players signed (it says 13, I counted 16). If the plan is to lock up Hughes and Petterson long term, that eats up practically all of that. Then you still have 2 or 3 Roster spots to fill out. Couple other lesser RFA's to give a raise. It's tight.


I would say that I could see them doing a deal with Seattle, but won't that be their nemesis team? Maybe that sours plans for a cap space trade by pushing the value even higher? Sending the contract back East makes sense from that perspective and NYR will have a LOT of space this offseason (unless something happens). Perhaps VAN could pit NYR and NJD against each other to try to lower the value here? Would a 2nd and a prospect be reasonable w/o VAN retaining?
Apr. 14, 2021 at 12:27 a.m.
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I would say that I could see them doing a deal with Seattle, but won't that be their nemesis team? Maybe that sours plans for a cap space trade by pushing the value even higher? Sending the contract back East makes sense from that perspective and NYR will have a LOT of space this offseason (unless something happens). Perhaps VAN could pit NYR and NJD against each other to try to lower the value here? Would a 2nd and a prospect be reasonable w/o VAN retaining?


While a 2nd and a Prospect can be done, the Devils and Rangers aren't going to LOWER their price by being pitted against one another.

They aren't eager to take on Eriksson. They are just doing it for a significant sweetener. If it's not sweet enough, then they have no intention of taking it on.

Vancouver isn't selling an asset. They are trying to unload a Dump. Being pressed against a Flat Cap puts them at a disadvantage when bargaining. Not the other way around.
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Apr. 14, 2021 at 12:37 a.m.
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While a 2nd and a Prospect can be done, the Devils and Rangers aren't going to LOWER their price by being pitted against one another.

They aren't eager to take on Eriksson. They are just doing it for a significant sweetener. If it's not sweet enough, then they have no intention of taking it on.

Vancouver isn't selling an asset. They are trying to unload a Dump. Being pressed against a Flat Cap puts them at a disadvantage when bargaining. Not the other way around.


Yes, I understand the point of the deal. I'm saying that if you're VAN, do you call both NYR and NJD and then let them know that you're looking to dump the contract with their rival who is already interested at a lower price than a 1st rounder? Both have cap space as an asset so why not find the lowest bidder? A 2nd round pick is still pretty significant, but the value of the contract could easily warrant a 1st if there were only one buyer for it instead of two.
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Apr. 14, 2021 at 12:42 a.m.
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Yes, I understand the point of the deal. I'm saying that if you're VAN, do you call both NYR and NJD and then let them know that you're looking to dump the contract with their rival who is already interested at a lower price than a 1st rounder? Both have cap space as an asset so why not find the lowest bidder? A 2nd round pick is still pretty significant, but the value of the contract could easily warrant a 1st if there were only one buyer for it instead of two.


Nah. I think Devils and Rangers will set the price.
Apr. 14, 2021 at 12:45 a.m.
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Yes, I understand the point of the deal. I'm saying that if you're VAN, do you call both NYR and NJD and then let them know that you're looking to dump the contract with their rival who is already interested at a lower price than a 1st rounder? Both have cap space as an asset so why not find the lowest bidder? A 2nd round pick is still pretty significant, but the value of the contract could easily warrant a 1st if there were only one buyer for it instead of two.


If it were an asset at stake, I could see them going back and forth to try and keep them away from the rival club.

For Eriksson? A substantial Pick is nice, but still a bit of a crap shoot. I don't see either team underbidding each other for the pleasure of keeping another Pick away from the other.
 
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