One year of Couturier, a cap dump and a unpromising prospect doesn’t really fit the bill for an Eichel trade.

That's why you try and re-sign Coots... Offer him $10 mil per, he's better than Eichel

Vorcek is past his best before date. I being the Oilers GM in this case is not interested in him. But he is really funny though.

No keeping Eichel is a better idea plus he’s better.

I mean, you aren't really losing anything in this trade and gaining a top line winger. Not sure why people think Voracek is "past his best before date" as he hasn't slowed down production at all.

Except that he isn't.

Yah we are losing our best defenseman.

I think Nurse has surpassed him. And you don't have to worry about the injury, the Flyers can take that risk. You get a replacement D and a top line winger for McDavid. Of all the trades, I thought this one would be the least argued.

Nurse has passed him this year. Hopefully he keeps it up. Time will tell, but Klefbomb has an awesome contract and rehabbing now. Vorcek is no longer a top line player. He is now a overpaid 3rd line player and his cap hit is brutal. Oilers can sign Tartar for someone like that for cheaper and produces way more.

Overpaid 3rd line player? Dude, you do understand that he is producing at a .82 ppg pace right? That is 11th among RWers. So tell me again how the 11th OA RW producer is a 3rd liner...how many NHL teams are there?

Oilers have 2 right wingers with more goals than vorcek for under 2 million buck. So certainly no thanks. Not interested in his brutal cap hit. Oilers need a shooter for McDavid, not a play maker.

If I'm Edmonton, I accept that deal on the condition that Philadelphia retains some money on Voracek. In the ballpark of $1.5M? Either that or drop the 2022 2nd. Cap savings and the extra year between Neal/Voracek sways in favour of the Flyers if a healthy Klefbom and Sanheim are about equivalent.

I'd be willing to be pretty flexible in terms of how much money / what picks/prospects would be exchanged in this scenario.

Then play him with Drai. Depth in the NHL is an amazing thing! JP and Kailer, haven't really shown they can hang with the top 6 and definitely are not top line guys.

You do realize Voracek would be the third-highest producing forward on the Oilers' roster, right? Acquiring him to play with either McDavid or Draisaitl only compliments the centerman's ability to score goals as well. Quit acting like both of these men exclusively require shooters to play with: both guys are good for 40+ goals per year, who gives a rats ass as to which player is actually the goal scorer on their respective lines? It's very archaic of you to assume that the centerman needs to be the playmaker on a line.

Great, you can pay him for the next 3 years after this year Drai money and watch his already decline go further down. That is how we get into cap problems. Have fun with that.
As Oilers GM I am not doing that deal and Klefbomb is more important to me on the oilers anyways.

We are just starting to have major D depth and RW depth. we need left wingers and a 3rd line right shot center. That is our needs

I'd love for you to show me where the decline is because here are his last 6 years

2020-2021 .82 ppg
2019-2020 .82 ppg
2018-2019 .85 ppg
2017-2018 1.04 ppg (outlier)
2016-2017 .75 ppg
2015-2016 .76 ppg

if you got Jake, you would move either JP or Yama to the left side. You cater to the better player who is Jake and it's not close.

Klefbom will not have played an NHL game in over a calendar year by the time he gets back into the Oilers' roster. Nurse has the reigns as the #1LD on this team. Sanheim is an excellent top-4 option that the club can ink to a nearly identical deal to what Klefbom signed, which in turn makes Samorukov much more of a tradable asset: Nurse, Sanheim, and Broberg are your left side for the next half decade+.

Neal's all but dead money at this point in his career. I've proposed some degree of retention - hopefully to bring him down to about $7M/y - but to be that ignorant of a 31 year-old's production or how it's expected to behave over the next two or three seasons is absurd. Voracek isn't a dinosaur, even if it feels like he's been in the league forever. This is a very creative situation to managing some bad cap on Neal's part while getting actual value for those dollars. Do you prefer Edmonton carries two to four years of dead cap on a roster that can't afford it?

Given their actual production, Puljujarvi and Yamamoto are currently much closer to third-line production than Voracek is. I insist you reconsider.

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Look at his goals, look at his points. If you cant see it, than I dont know what to say dude.

Even Neal had more goals than him last year and he was hurt part of the year and I dont want him on the oilers either

I refer you to this...

Imagine bringing James Neal into an argument to try and make Voracek look bad

Great like I said, you can do that deal if you are GM. No way I am doing that deal and I think Neal will retire at the end of this year do to health concerns. Yama and JP are young and both are on Voracek pace for goals and games played. Well Yamamo is above that pace in fact. Klefbomb will be back and the Oilers will be a lot stronger with him there, like if you want to argue Klefbomb for Sanheim is an equal trade than thats up to you. But IMO Klefbomb is better and plays in all situations.

So the trade is Neal who will probably retire or go on LTIR for the rest of his career and a 2nd for an 8 million dollar player that is over paid. No thanks, like I said above I would rather sign Hyman or Tartar for 5 million a year. That is my decision. If you like the deal than thats good for you, we dont all have to agree on eveluation of players or team direction. I would never do that deal PERIOD.

Either take into consideration his games played and the fact that he's nearly a point-per-game player or I'm going to infract you for trolling.

You're absolutely allowed to dislike the player or his cap hit, but this half-assed attempt at claiming Voracek is over the hill is ridiculous. Come back with a real argument or piss off.