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Created by: Duggysdanglers
Initial Creation Date: Apr 16, 2021
Published: Apr 17 at 1:36
Team: 2021-22 Boston Bruins
Team Explanation
Tell me what ya think. I’d like to sign a high end LD UFA but there are none. I’d like to trade for one but I’m not sure if one would be made available in the offseason. Hampus Lindholm might be had at the TDL but he might get extended, for example.
I like the DeBrusk trade especially if he does not light it up in the playoffs. Hall basically stole his spot.
Rask can play for another 3 years while Swayman develops in the backup role. He will still play approximately 30 games a season.
I really like Oleksiak because he will help take the physical burden off of Miller and Carlo especially since they’ve had injury issues.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Carlo, Brandon6$4,500,000
Frederic, Trent2$1,000,000
Kase, Ondrej1$1,000,000
Ritchie, Nick3$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Krejci, David2$4,000,000
Rask, Tuukka3$5,000,000
Hall, Taylor5$6,000,000
Reilly, Mike2$2,000,000
Miller, Kevan1$1,000,000
Oleksiak, Jamie5$3,500,000
Trades
BOS
  1. Rakell, Rickard
  2. Colangelo, Sam [Reserve List]
Additional Details:
SC balances the trade a bit.
ANA
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
BOS
    Seattle.
    ANA
    1. Lauzon, Jérémy
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    TOR
    2022
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    2023
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$79,213,452$1,956,507$682,500$2,286,548
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    BOS
    Marchand, Brad
    $6,125,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    BOS
    Bergeron, Patrice
    $6,875,000
    C
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    BOS
    Pastrnak, David
    $6,666,667
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    BOS
    Hall, Taylor
    $6,000,000
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    BOS
    Krejci, David
    $4,000,000
    C
    UFA
    ANA
    Rakell, Rickard
    $3,789,444
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    BOS
    Ritchie, Nick
    $2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    BOS
    Coyle, Charlie
    $5,250,000
    C, RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 5
    BOS
    Studnicka, Jack
    $769,167
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Frederic, Trent
    $1,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    BOS
    Lazar, Curtis
    $800,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    BOS
    Smith, Craig
    $3,100,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    BOS
    Wagner, Chris
    $1,350,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Oleksiak, Jamie
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    BOS
    McAvoy, Charlie
    $4,900,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    BOS
    Rask, Tuukka
    $5,000,000
    G
    UFA
    BOS
    Grzelcyk, Matt
    $3,687,500
    LD
    UFA - 3
    BOS
    Carlo, Brandon
    $4,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    BOS
    Swayman, Jeremy
    $925,000
    G
    RFA - 2
    BOS
    Reilly, Mike
    $2,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    BOS
    Miller, Kevan
    $1,000,000
    RD
    UFA
    BOS
    Vaakanainen, Urho
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Clifton, Connor
    $1,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Taxi Squad
    BOS
    Ahcan, Jack
    $925,000 ($0)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Zboril, Jakub
    $725,000 ($0)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Moore, John
    $2,750,000 ($1,625,000)
    LD
    UFA - 2
    BOS
    Kuhlman, Karson
    $725,000 ($0)
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Kase, Ondrej
    $1,000,000 ($0)
    RW
    RFA - 1

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    Apr 17 at 3:09
    #26
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    Edited Apr 17 at 3:19
    Quoting: TowelPower
    I'm talking about their overall contribution to their teams

    GF/60
    RR - 2.45
    JD - 2.26

    High Danger Scoring Chances/60
    RR - 11.11
    JD - 9.84

    Off Zone Starts/60
    RR - 11.64
    JD - 12.83

    D Zone Starts/60
    RR - 8.26
    JD - 5.68

    RR much more complete player and plays a 200 foot game. In 2018, collected 40+ points, finished tied for second on a team that had absolutely no offensive output and finishing dead last in GF in the league.
    JD had the support of Krejci as his main pivot, Krejci went on to have a career year in 2018.

    Easy for you to pick G/60 when DeBrusk had better linemates and was playing on a better team
    2018 - Rakell's linemates were Getzlaf/Perry and Silfverberg/Shore and Aberg/Getzlaf. Keep in mind Getzlaf and Perry were old and way past their prime. Getzlaf didn't even eclipse 50 points, Perry was injured for a third of the season and collected 10 points.
    2019 - Rakell mainly played with Henrique and Silfverberg

    2018 - DeBrusk played with Heinen and Krejci
    2019 - Krejci and Kuhlman


    Ya I use individual stats per 60's, not team stats as I find individual/60 is a better indicator of a player performance. A guy can have great team numbers even though he doesn't have much impact on the play. DeBrusk has bounced around the line-up between the 2nd and 3rd line a lot this year and has been asked to play his off-wing (something he hasn't done before).

    Funny you use the excuse that Getz/Perry were old and past their prime, yet Krejci is only a year younger but you didn't say he was old and past his prime.

    Heinen - has been a healthy scratch how many times this year?

    Kulhman is routinely a healthy scratch for Boston and a fringe NHL

    Yet your really going to try and say JDB had better linemates?

    Btw, even looking at the numbers you provided, the different is pretty small
    Apr 17 at 3:20
    #27
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Ya I use individual stats per 60's, not team stats as I find individual/60 is a better indicator of a player performance. A guy can have great team numbers even though he doesn't have much impact on the play. DeBrusk has bounced around the line-up between the 2nd and 3rd line a lot this year and has been asked to play his off-wing (something he hasn't done before).

    Funny you use the excuse that Getz/Perry were old and past their prime, yet Krejci is only a year younger but you didn't say he was old and past his prime.

    Heinen - has been a healthy scratch how many times this year?

    Kulhman is routinely a healthy scratch for Boston and a fringe NHL

    Yet your really going to try and say JDB had better linemates?


    When you play a rough and tumble style like the Ducks do, your body wears down a lot. Krejci is a perimeter player, he doesn't play the same style as those guys. When somebody registers a career high in points do you consider them to be past their prime? Krejci hit his peak in 2018. Age can play a factor into production but not always the case.
    You wanted numbers since 2018. I'm showing you the linemates he had in those years. Why are you bringing up this year? If you want to talk about this year, RR has played with Steel and Comtois.

    You're really going to stand by the fact that JD didn't have better linemates than RR since 2018? LOL stay up and watch a little west coast hockey.

    Individually RR had better numbers than JD in /60 despite having ****ter line mates so you're argument doesn't hold up. RR is a more complete player, plays against the opponent's top lines and teams value a player that can play the full 200 foot game. Clearly, JD can't be relied on in the defensive zone. Hence, the trade value of RR is much higher than JD.
    Apr 17 at 3:23
    #28
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    You tell me which line up was better?

    2018
    13.73% EV DEBRUSK,JAKE - HEINEN,DANTON - KREJCI,DAVID
    10.94% EV DEBRUSK,JAKE - KREJCI,DAVID - NORDSTROM,JOAKIM

    2019
    13.06% EV DEBRUSK,JAKE - KREJCI,DAVID - KUHLMAN,KARSON
    9.79% EV DEBRUSK,JAKE - HEINEN,DANTON - KREJCI,DAVID
    6.27% EV DEBRUSK,JAKE - KREJCI,DAVID - PASTRNAK,DAVID

    versus

    2018
    9.09% EV GETZLAF,RYAN - PERRY,COREY - RAKELL,RICKARD
    8.92% EV ABERG,PONTUS - GETZLAF,RYAN - RAKELL,RICKARD
    8.72% EV RAKELL,RICKARD - SHORE,DEVIN - SILFVERBERG,JAKOB

    2019
    21.31% EV HENRIQUE,ADAM - RAKELL,RICKARD - SILFVERBERG,JAKOB
    7.66% EV GETZLAF,RYAN - RAKELL,RICKARD - SILFVERBERG,JAKOB
    6.38% EV GETZLAF,RYAN - JONES,MAX - RAKELL,RICKARD
    Apr 17 at 3:27
    #29
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    DeBrusk has been even ****ter this year which makes his value a lot lower. At least Rakell can register 23 points with the likes of Comtois and Lundestrom, Jones and Getz
    Apr 17 at 3:33
    #30
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    When you play a rough and tumble style like the Ducks do, your body wears down a lot. Krejci is a perimeter player, he doesn't play the same style as those guys. When somebody registers a career high in points do you consider them to be past their prime? Krejci hit his peak in 2018. Age can play a factor into production but not always the case.
    You wanted numbers since 2018. I'm showing you the linemates he had in those years. Why are you bringing up this year? If you want to talk about this year, RR has played with Steel and Comtois.

    You're really going to stand by the fact that JD didn't have better linemates than RR since 2018? LOL stay up and watch a little west coast hockey.

    Individually RR had better numbers than JD in /60 despite having ****ter line mates so you're argument doesn't hold up. RR is a more complete player, plays against the opponent's top lines and teams value a player that can play the full 200 foot game. Clearly, JD can't be relied on in the defensive zone. Hence, the trade value of RR is much higher than JD.


    Hard to say Individually when I showed you that wasn't the case. Also since 2018 would include this season, no?

    Sounds like we'll agree to disagree here because I'm not going to change your mind and your sure as hell not changing mine based on what you've presented so far.
    Apr 17 at 3:34
    #31
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    DeBrusk has been even ****ter this year which makes his value a lot lower. At least Rakell can register 23 points with the likes of Comtois and Lundestrom, Jones and Getz


    He's also had COVID and admitted to struggling mentally w/ the isolation due to NHL protocols wink
    Apr 17 at 3:39
    #32
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Hard to say Individually when I showed you that wasn't the case. Also since 2018 would include this season, no?

    Sounds like we'll agree to disagree here because I'm not going to change your mind and your sure as hell not changing mine based on what you've presented so far.


    OK so you want this season

    G/60
    RR - 0.195
    JD - 0.138

    GF/60
    RR - 2.49
    JD - 1.54

    High Danger Scoring Chances/60
    RR - 10.74
    JD - 8.19

    O-Zone Starts/60
    RR - 12.23
    JD - 11.95

    D-Zone Starts/60
    RR - 7.26
    JD - 5.12
    Apr 17 at 3:40
    #33
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    Edited Apr 17 at 3:45
    Quoting: ON3M4N
    He's also had COVID and admitted to struggling mentally w/ the isolation due to NHL protocols wink


    LOL sure lets use COVID as a reason why he sucks this year. So butthurt about pointing out that RR is the better player. I'm just being objective here.
    He sucked last year too..correction REGRESSED
    Apr 17 at 3:50
    #34
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Btw, even looking at the numbers you provided, the different is pretty small


    The fact that RR can put up those numbers with the linemates around him says a lot especially in 2018 when JD had his 'breakout' year
    As well as playing on a team that has been in the bottom 10 GF in the league in the past 3 years.
    Apr 17 at 3:57
    #35
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    LOL sure lets use COVID as a reason why he sucks this year. So butthurt about pointing out that RR is the better player. I'm just being objective here.
    He sucked last year too..correction REGRESSED


    Butthurt? not even close lol. ANH fans get so upset when you show that DeBrusk individual per 60's are right there w/ Rakell over the last 3 years. At this point its just funny to see the meltdown (as you've done so here with rapid fire multiple post) that comes with pointing it out. Again we'll agree to disagree and wait and see what Rakell returns when he's finally traded from that dumpster fire of a team.
    Apr 17 at 4:05
    #36
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    Edited Apr 17 at 4:13
    It's funny to see you unable to differentiate between a meltdown and a debate.

    I'm providing facts to you and you're just spewing out **** like ohhh I don't care about the team contribution its only about individual stats. What a bunch of baloney. Of course individual stats matter but you think teams value a player solely on ONE SINGLE good year he provided statistically? Can he play defense? No. Can he relied on in the D-zone? No. Has he regressed since his breakout year? Yes.
    At least you know what you're getting with RR, a competent 200 foot player that bring a lot more to the table offensively than JD.
    Apr 17 at 4:13
    #37
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    Bro I'm not from ANA. Speaking as an objective hockey fan. Time to take off those BOS glasses off your tiny little head.


    I like how your only reply is to try and insult me lol. It was a pretty weak insult by the way. Small head? Who cares about the size of someone's head? Why am I supposed to be offended by that?
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    Apr 17 at 4:16
    #38
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    I like how your only reply is to try and insult me lol. It was a pretty weak insult by the way. Small head? Who cares about the size of someone's head? Why am I supposed to be offended by that?


    LOL I've been pretty respectful and cordial with our debate...not meltdown. But when you assumed I was an ANA fan and I got 'upset' that you said JD is better than RR, it just made me laugh. I had to point out how dumb you really are.
    Apr 17 at 4:17
    #39
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    Meltdown LOL

    I'm providing facts to you and you're just spewing out **** like ohhh I don't care about the team contribution its only about individual stats. What a bunch of baloney. Of course individual stats matter but you think teams value a player solely on ONE SINGLE good year he provided statistically? Can he play defense? No. Can he relied on in the D-zone? No. Has he regressed since his breakout year? Yes.
    At least you know what you're getting with RR, a competent 200 foot player that bring a lot more to the table offensively than JD.


    If JDB is so bad defensively why is he 6th in PK TOI among Bruins forwards? The same PK that has the best kill% in the NHL. Talk about spewing **** lol, you don't even know what your talking about.
    Apr 17 at 4:19
    #40
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    LOL I've been pretty respectful and cordial with our debate...not meltdown. But when you assumed I was an ANA fan and I got 'upset' that you said JD is better than RR, it just made me laugh. I had to point out how dumb you really are.


    Still trying to insult and failing miserably. Did I say JDB was better than Rakell? Find the post where I said he's better.
    Apr 17 at 4:19
    #41
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    If JDB is so bad defensively why is he 6th in PK TOI among Bruins forwards? The same PK that has the best kill% in the NHL. Talk about spewing **** lol, you don't even know what your talking about.


    LOL 6th in PK that's your argument? How many forwards play on the PK? 2. Take 2 units that's four.
    He's not even their first, second, third, fourth or even fifth pick to kill penalties!
    Apr 17 at 4:20
    #42
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    I like how you just want to conclude this debate with a let's agree to disagree. Because you know that I'm right and you've got nothing.
    Another butthurt Bruins fan. Chill bro. Look through the eyes as an objective hockey fan not with your beer Boston goggles LOL


    Still trying to throw insults and all it doesn't it make you look worse lol
    Apr 17 at 4:21
    #43
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Still trying to insult and failing miserably. Did I say JDB was better than Rakell? Find the post where I said he's better.


    I think folks need to go look at some /60 numbers for DeBrusk vs Rakell since 2018 before saying Rakell (a ufa after next year) has more value than DeBrusk (an RFA after next year).

    Pretty clear to me. When you say has MORE value lol
    Apr 17 at 4:21
    #44
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    LOL 6th in PK that's your argument? How many forwards play on the PK? 2. Take 2 units that's four.
    He's not even their first, second, third, fourth or even fifth pick to kill penalties!


    Well Boston rolls 3 fed duos w/ 2 def pairings...so that means 6 forwards and surprise DeBrusk is top 6 even with missing time this year lol.
    Apr 17 at 4:23
    #45
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    I think folks need to go look at some /60 numbers for DeBrusk vs Rakell since 2018 before saying Rakell (a ufa after next year) has more value than DeBrusk (an RFA after next year).

    Pretty clear to me. When you say has MORE value lol


    I never even said JDB had more value. I said before saying Rakell has more value. When you factor age and team control I'd put them around equal value all things considered.
    Apr 17 at 4:23
    #46
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Well Boston rolls 3 fed duos w/ 2 def pairings...so that means 6 forwards and surprise DeBrusk is top 6 even with missing time this year lol.


    I don't know what you're smoking

    But DeBrusk is 8th among forwards in PK time/GP LOL
    Apr 17 at 4:24
    #47
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    you need to go back to school


    Wtf is that even supposed to mean haha. Your insults are actually getting worse laugh
    Apr 17 at 4:24
    #48
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    Rakell doesn't even kill penalties but he's relied on to start in the D-zone more than JD
    Apr 17 at 4:25
    #49
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    Quoting: TowelPower
    I don't know what you're smoking

    But DeBrusk is 8th among forwards in PK time/GP LOL


    Wasn't included Bjork as he's not longer w/ the team. With Bjork he's 7th, not 8th.
    Apr 17 at 4:25
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Wtf is that even supposed to mean haha. Your insults are actually getting worse laugh


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