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BRUINS FANS HELP

Created by: Marcsnack
Initial Creation Date: Apr 18, 2021
Published: Apr 18 at 3:11
Team: 2020-21 Boston Bruins
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What is your expansion draft list if you cannot make anymore trades or any deals with Seattle?
I assume:
Bergeron-Pastrnak-Marchand-Coyle-DeBrusk-Ritchie-Smith
Carlo-McAvoy-Grzelcyk
Vladar

I think Seattle would take one of Lauzon or Frederic.
Thoughts?
Retained Salary Transactions
  • David Backes: $1,500,000 (25%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
TOR
2022
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2023
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
26$81,500,000$85,542,314$964,222$2,100,000-$4,042,314
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BOS
Marchand, Brad
$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
BOS
Krejci, David
$7,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Pastrnak, David
$6,666,667
RW
UFA - 3
BOS
Hall, Taylor
$4,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
$6,875,000
C
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Smith, Craig
$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
BOS
DeBrusk, Jake
$3,675,000
LW
RFA - 2
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
$5,250,000
C, RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
BOS
Wagner, Chris
$1,350,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
BOS
Ritchie, Nick
$1,498,925
LW
RFA - 1
BOS
Kuraly, Sean
$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
$725,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
BOS
Blidh, Anton
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
BOS
Lazar, Curtis
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 4
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
$4,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
$7,000,000
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Reilly, Mike
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
BOS
Miller, Kevan
$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
BOS
Halák, Jaroslav
$2,250,000
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Clifton, Connor
$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
BOS
Kampfer, Steven
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
BOS
Swayman, Jeremy
$925,000
G
RFA - 3
BOS
Lauzon, Jérémy
$850,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
BOS
Zboril, Jakub
$725,000
LD
RFA - 2
BOS
Tinordi, Jarred
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
$2,850,000
RD
RFA - 1
BOS
Moore, John
$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
BOS
Kase, Ondrej
$2,600,000
RW
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
BOS
Ahcan, Jack
$925,000 ($0)
LD
RFA - 2
BOS
Frederic, Trent
$925,000 ($0)
C, LW
RFA - 1
BOS
Booth, Callum
$700,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
BOS
McKegg, Greg
$700,000 ($0)
C, LW
UFA - 1

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Apr 18 at 3:14
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They take Frederic. Defenseman are easy to come by in this exp draft.
Apr 18 at 3:15
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Quoting: Gofnut999
They take Frederic. Defenseman are easy to come by in this exp draft.


Do you agree with the protected players?
Apr 18 at 3:17
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Do you agree with the protected players?


Possible they might bump Ritchie for Frederic as he has fallen off since a good start but you are probably right.
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Apr 18 at 3:25
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Do you agree with the protected players?


Unless they sign Hall/Krejci before the draft

Edit: And Ritchie/Frederic/whoever at the lower end doesnt really matter tbh
Apr 18 at 3:26
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Quoting: MelonVK
Unless they sign Hall/Krejci before the draft


Agreed with that. If they sign one, who do you unprotect?
Apr 18 at 3:38
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I think you have the right list except switch Frederic for Ritchie. Seattle has to take 20 players with term and Ritchie and Kase are RFA’s. I also doubt they want to take too many arb-eligible RFAs, which they both are as well. I think both survive exposure and the Kraken take Lauzon or Zboril
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Apr 18 at 3:53
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If I was GM of BOS I would tempt them to take Coyle. He isn't a 5.2 mil player.
5v5 he has 3 goals and 8 points. a 50/50 corsi/FF and is a -13.
He's going to be 30. His play started dropping in MIN. BOS signed him to that huge deal of one bounce back in a contract year. It looks like he's back to his old self.
If you can move that contract out for nothing, now is the time.
Apr 18 at 4:31
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Agreed with that. If they sign one, who do you unprotect?


From your list, Ritchie by any chance. One could maybe convince Coyle to waive regardless, with the reasoning he probably isn't going to be taken

Edit: I actually forgot Kase. He's probably the one they should protect. He has a higher ceiling if he gets back alright.
Apr 18 at 4:37
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Do you agree with the protected players?


Frederic over Ritchie and Lauzon over Gryz.
Apr 18 at 4:45
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Quoting: MelonVK
Unless they sign Hall/Krejci before the draft

Edit: And Ritchie/Frederic/whoever at the lower end doesnt really matter tbh


For sure Krejci and hopefully Hall will want to stay in Boston. They won't tie managements hands by signing before the draft. At the lower end it does matter. Frederic should be protected, not Ritchie.
Apr 18 at 4:48
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Quoting: MelonVK
From your list, Ritchie by any chance. One could maybe convince Coyle to waive regardless, with the reasoning he probably isn't going to be taken

Edit: I actually forgot Kase. He's probably the one they should protect. He has a higher ceiling if he gets back alright.


They will not be protecting Kase.
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Apr 18 at 6:00
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
They will not be protecting Kase.


Note "should", not "will"
Apr 18 at 6:10
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I think they protect Frederic over ritchie. If Seattle takes ritchie in the expansion draft I’m pretty sure don Sweeney will sleep well.
Apr 18 at 6:12
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Freddy > Ritchie, other than that it's correct
Apr 18 at 9:50
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Quoting: MelonVK
From your list, Ritchie by any chance. One could maybe convince Coyle to waive regardless, with the reasoning he probably isn't going to be taken

Edit: I actually forgot Kase. He's probably the one they should protect. He has a higher ceiling if he gets back alright.


Id be surprised if Kase gets a qualifying offer... i believe if they did qualify him his minimum deal would be 2.6 mil and i think BOS would rather use that money towards extending Carlo, potentially resigning Hall/Krejci/Rask/Ritchie and exploring FA. Just dont think 2.6 or more is worth a flyer on a guy who just cant stay in the lineup.
Apr 18 at 11:07
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Frederic over Ritchie.
Apr 19 at 12:14
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Edited Apr 19 at 12:26
Quoting: BruinsCharlies
Frederic over Ritchie and Lauzon over Gryz.


Quoting: CMcAvoy73
I think they protect Frederic over ritchie. If Seattle takes ritchie in the expansion draft I’m pretty sure don Sweeney will sleep well.


Quoting: KennyBoi
Freddy > Ritchie, other than that it's correct


Quoting: keepcalmandbergeron
Frederic over Ritchie.


Why do you guys think this? I know Ritchie has been on a slump, but Frederic doesnt really put up any numbers. I know his role is to be more of a physical guy/disturber. I guess you guys really like what he brings in that regard? Also, he isnt even playing in the NHL right now.
Apr 19 at 12:24
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Why do you guys think this? I know Ritchie has been on a slump, but Frederic doesnt really put up any numbers. I know his role is to be more of a physical guy/disturber. I guess you guys really like what he brings in that regard?


He just turned 23, the bruins picked him in the first round. They clearly like his game, and with reason. He brings a ton of physicality, and is starting to chip in offensively
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Apr 19 at 5:43
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Quoting: Heyhowareya37
Id be surprised if Kase gets a qualifying offer... i believe if they did qualify him his minimum deal would be 2.6 mil and i think BOS would rather use that money towards extending Carlo, potentially resigning Hall/Krejci/Rask/Ritchie and exploring FA. Just dont think 2.6 or more is worth a flyer on a guy who just cant stay in the lineup.


Yeah I'm not talking about likelihoods, I'm specifically saying "should" cause I believe Kase to actually have high end play driving potential. You can find guys like Frederic and Ritchie any off-season. Would be really cool if they could sign him for less, if he's not expecting more in free agency. I really hope they do, regardless.
Apr 19 at 8:02
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Quoting: MelonVK
Yeah I'm not talking about likelihoods, I'm specifically saying "should" cause I believe Kase to actually have high end play driving potential. You can find guys like Frederic and Ritchie any off-season. Would be really cool if they could sign him for less, if he's not expecting more in free agency. I really hope they do, regardless.


Guess it kinda depends on how the rest of the year shapes up... They would have to not qualify him, let him turn into an UFA and then try to sign him at a lower price. But i would imagine they would let him walk to be honest. Too many young guys who probably need a spot. But who knows? He could come back for the playoffs and tear it up for all i know... feel bad for the guy its been a really unfortunate stretch.
Apr 19 at 8:04
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Why do you guys think this? I know Ritchie has been on a slump, but Frederic doesnt really put up any numbers. I know his role is to be more of a physical guy/disturber. I guess you guys really like what he brings in that regard? Also, he isnt even playing in the NHL right now.


I mean he was sick, its not that they sent him down. He was sick, and the 4th line has been tearing it up with Lazar joining so they havent forced him back in the lineup. Im split between Ritchie and Freddy. For me it would have to depend on what Ritchie would want in a next contract, he'll be an RFA.
Apr 19 at 9:03
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Why do you guys think this? I know Ritchie has been on a slump, but Frederic doesnt really put up any numbers. I know his role is to be more of a physical guy/disturber. I guess you guys really like what he brings in that regard? Also, he isnt even playing in the NHL right now.


Freddy is young, still has upside to be a really good 3rd liner. He's one of those guys who brings energy to the lineup, is tenacious, not afraid to dish it out and can easily get under the skins of opponents while staying disciplined. Not a lot of guys can do all of that, which makes him very valuable to the team. He's the definition of a boston bruin.
Apr 19 at 9:35
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Quoting: Heyhowareya37
Guess it kinda depends on how the rest of the year shapes up... They would have to not qualify him, let him turn into an UFA and then try to sign him at a lower price. But i would imagine they would let him walk to be honest. Too many young guys who probably need a spot. But who knows? He could come back for the playoffs and tear it up for all i know... feel bad for the guy its been a really unfortunate stretch.


Yeah but I think part of the issue is that even when he's really good its that sneaky type of good. It's the opposite of Malkin or someone at their best who's knocking people over, scoring insane goals and setting up great assists - Kase is mostly a smart player, and I think its really hard to shine like that unless people are looking at deeper metrics and such. So not sure he'll really *look* that good in the playoffs even if he is. But then getting Hall for nothing would offset the Kase investment regardless, and if they sign him instead I can't really be upset, so there's that!
Apr 19 at 9:40
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Quoting: pharrow
If I was GM of BOS I would tempt them to take Coyle. He isn't a 5.2 mil player.
5v5 he has 3 goals and 8 points. a 50/50 corsi/FF and is a -13.
He's going to be 30. His play started dropping in MIN. BOS signed him to that huge deal of one bounce back in a contract year. It looks like he's back to his old self.
If you can move that contract out for nothing, now is the time.


They gave him a NMC. Coyles play is more suited for playoffs anyways, but itll be interesting to see if the bruins can elevate his play at all.
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Apr 19 at 9:42
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Honestly they could make it very difficult on seattle and protect:

Bergy, pasta, marchy, coyle, debrusk, frederic, smith
Mcavoy, carlo, lauzon
Vladar

This exposes grz who makes ~3.7m over the next 3 years which are supposedly flat cap. He has missed a ton of time this year and that could play a factor down the stretch. Im very very nervous that bruins try and resign nick ritchie for more than he is worth.
 
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