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What would it cost

Created by: Devil1122
Initial Creation Date: Apr 19, 2021
Published: Apr 19 at 11:05
Team: 2020-21 New Jersey Devils
Trades
NJD
  1. Beagle, Jay
  2. Eriksson, Loui
  3. Holtby, Braden
  4. Myers, Tyler
  5. Roussel, Antoine
VAN
    How much would pay to dump these players
    Buyouts
    • Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
    • Mike Cammalleri: $1,666,667
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Travis Zajac: $2,875,000 (50%)
    • Kyle Palmieri: $2,325,000 (50%)
    Recapture Fees
    • Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000
    Buried
    • Connor Carrick: $425,000 ($1,500,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    NJD
    NYI
    NYI
    NJD
    NJD
    BUF
    NJD
    ARI
    2022
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    EDM
    NYI
    NJD
    CBJ
    NJD
    NJD
    2023
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$81,500,000$80,524,164$0$4,312,500$975,836
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    NJD
    Kuokkanen, Janne
    $811,666
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Hughes, Jack
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Sharangovich, Yegor
    $775,833
    C, RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Zacha, Pavel
    $2,250,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Hischier, Nico
    $7,250,000
    C
    UFA - 7
    NJD
    Bratt, Jesper
    $2,750,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Foote, Nolan
    $894,167
    LW
    RFA - 3
    NJD
    Boqvist, Jesper
    $925,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Johnsson, Andreas
    $3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    NJD
    Wood, Miles
    $2,750,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Mcleod, Michael
    $863,333
    C
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Bastian, Nathan
    $714,166
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    NJD
    Murray, Ryan
    $4,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    NJD
    Subban, P.K.
    $9,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    NJD
    Blackwood, Mackenzie
    $2,800,000
    G
    RFA - 3
    NJD
    Smith, Ty
    $863,333
    LD
    RFA - 3
    NJD
    Severson, Damon
    $4,166,666
    RD
    UFA - 3
    NJD
    Dell, Aaron
    $800,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    NJD
    Siegenthaler, Jonas
    $800,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Tennyson, Matt
    $700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    NJD
    Wedgewood, Scott
    $700,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    NJD
    Studenic, Marian
    $775,833
    RW
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Maltsev, Mikhail
    $809,167
    LW
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Butcher, Will
    $3,733,333
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Taxi Squad
    VAN
    Beagle, Jay
    $3,000,000 ($1,925,000)
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Roussel, Antoine
    $3,000,000 ($1,925,000)
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    NJD
    Merkley, Nick
    $874,125 ($0)
    C
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Eriksson, Loui
    $6,000,000 ($4,925,000)
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Holtby, Braden
    $4,300,000 ($3,225,000)
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Myers, Tyler
    $6,000,000 ($4,925,000)
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    NJD
    Thompson, Tyce
    $912,500 ($0)
    RW
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Okhotyuk, Nikita
    $795,000 ($0)
    LD
    RFA - 3
    NJD
    Street, Ben
    $750,000 ($0)
    C
    UFA - 1
    NJD
    Cormier, Evan
    $718,333 ($0)
    G
    RFA - 1

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    Apr 19 at 11:13
    #1
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    Don’t ask questions that ya don’t wanna know the answer to...
    a lot
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    Apr 19 at 11:16
    #2
    Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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    prob 1 and 2 2nds? maybe two 1sts?
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    Apr 19 at 11:17
    #3
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    Beagle is on LTIR and probably done, Holtby's buyout is really good so they aren't gonna move him, and the price to move Myers and Eriksson is too steep so they aren't gonna move them. I'd be willing to give a 3rd and maybe a meh prospect to move Roussel but that's about it
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    Apr 19 at 11:24
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    Use Marleaus 6M cap hit requiring a first as a base, add on that most if not every team is struggling financially due to the pandemic and multiply that 1st round cost by whatever needed.

    So in short, too much and even then good luck finding someone willing to take on what is essentially wasted money
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    Apr 19 at 11:38
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    Holtby - Nothing. He probably moves at cost. I'd take him for one-year at $4.3m if I didn't have to give up anything.
    Beagle - Nothing. Goes to LTIR.
    Roussel - Judging by this year's deadline, $1.7m of cap space runs about a 3rd or 4th pick (buyout cost)
    Eriksson - With $4 million buyout...probably an early 2nd pick, maybe a little more due to NTC.
    Myers - Can be useful at times, but too much $$ and too much term. Would have to come with a player and a 1st pick. Maybe a 1st alone if they retained half.

    So to take all five guys? Two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.

    Or Brock Boeser and pick.
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    Apr 19 at 11:40
    #6
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    How about this:

    Loui Eriksson
    VAN 2021 1st round pick (#11)
    VAN 2022 4th round pick

    for

    NYI 2021 1st round pick (#25)
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    Apr 19 at 11:52
    #7
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    I think the fans want the players moved but the management is okay with one more year of holding on. They will keep their assets and find ways to navigate around this year.
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    Apr 19 at 12:00
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    Quoting: TheAlien
    Beagle is on LTIR and probably done, Holtby's buyout is really good so they aren't gonna move him, and the price to move Myers and Eriksson is too steep so they aren't gonna move them. I'd be willing to give a 3rd and maybe a meh prospect to move Roussel but that's about it


    If Loui and Myers would to be traded, what would be a reasonable price the Canucks offer to the Devils?
    Apr 19 at 12:04
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Use Marleaus 6M cap hit requiring a first as a base, add on that most if not every team is struggling financially due to the pandemic and multiply that 1st round cost by whatever needed.

    So in short, too much and even then good luck finding someone willing to take on what is essentially wasted money


    Devils have enough cap space to take on most of those contracts
    Apr 19 at 12:05
    #10
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Holtby - Nothing. He probably moves at cost. I'd take him for one-year at $4.3m if I didn't have to give up anything.
    Beagle - Nothing. Goes to LTIR.
    Roussel - Judging by this year's deadline, $1.7m of cap space runs about a 3rd or 4th pick (buyout cost)
    Eriksson - With $4 million buyout...probably an early 2nd pick, maybe a little more due to NTC.
    Myers - Can be useful at times, but too much $$ and too much term. Would have to come with a player and a 1st pick. Maybe a 1st alone if they retained half.

    So to take all five guys? Two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.

    Or Brock Boeser and pick.


    I would love if that happened but I don't think the Canucks would trade all of those picks. That would be a great haul for the Devils.
    Apr 19 at 12:05
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    Quoting: BubbleDemko
    I think the fans want the players moved but the management is okay with one more year of holding on. They will keep their assets and find ways to navigate around this year.


    Would they have enough cap space for Quinn and EP?
    Apr 19 at 12:12
    #12
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Devils have enough cap space to take on most of those contracts


    Cap space doesnt equal actual $ though. The pandemic has made surplus money more valuable than ever in sports. The fact that few teams would have the combo of the cap space and willingness to use it this way would only increase the cost even more. I think VAN is stuck with most if not all of those deals
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    Apr 19 at 12:19
    #13
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    For taking Eriksson you can have our high 2nd + a mid round pick or equivalent prospect (4th rounder or so).

    For taking Roussel you can have a 3rd + possibly something minor like a 6th or long shot prospect.
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    Apr 19 at 12:20
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Would they have enough cap space for Quinn and EP?


    Absolutely they will have enough cap room. Vancouver media and have reported for years about Cap Issues and yet every year the team goes out in the last week and signs someone like Ferland or Hamonic this year. Canucks will be fine.
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    Apr 19 at 12:34
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    Opie
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Holtby - Nothing. He probably moves at cost. I'd take him for one-year at $4.3m if I didn't have to give up anything.
    Beagle - Nothing. Goes to LTIR.
    Roussel - Judging by this year's deadline, $1.7m of cap space runs about a 3rd or 4th pick (buyout cost)
    Eriksson - With $4 million buyout...probably an early 2nd pick, maybe a little more due to NTC.
    Myers - Can be useful at times, but too much $$ and too much term. Would have to come with a player and a 1st pick. Maybe a 1st alone if they retained half.

    So to take all five guys? Two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.

    Or Brock Boeser and pick.


    That term on Myers is just too much to stomach. They would need to buy him out in approx two years. Feels like a stay away, even with the fair value you placed.
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    Apr 19 at 1:18
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    Quoting: Opie
    That term on Myers is just too much to stomach. They would need to buy him out in approx two years. Feels like a stay away, even with the fair value you placed.


    His buy out is a horrible hit. The reality is Canucks coach loves Myers. He is not going anywhere.
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    Apr 19 at 1:39
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    prob 1 and 2 2nds? maybe two 1sts?


    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    So to take all five guys? Two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.

    Or Brock Boeser and pick.


    I'll gladly take their 2022 and 2023 1sts thank you very much
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    Apr 19 at 1:54
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    Quoting: zyyyp
    I'll gladly take their 2022 and 2023 1sts thank you very much


    Yeah, would take that 2022 1st (unprotected of course)
    And hope Quinn and Elias hold out as long as possible.
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