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Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 20, 2021
Published: Apr. 20, 2021
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Some of you may be saying the defense is too inexperienced. In saying that you would be correct.

The NJD deal is something that a devils fan agreed to + Regula for good measure. I’m not fond of trading Murphy, but we need the youths playing and it’s not going to be possible to develop them if we keep vets playing ahead of them.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.
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I'm curious, not because I think you are wrong or right, by why the obsession with Jesper Boqvist?
Apr. 20, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
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I fail to see why the devils would do that. Connor Murphy doesn’t go for a first, especially from a rebuilding team.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
I'm curious, not because I think you are wrong or right, by why the obsession with Jesper Boqvist?


Have you seen his last name? Wouldn’t that be like cool?



... In his draft interviews, Boqvist said his older brother was his best friend, which while not crazy unique, is interesting to me. I’d like to see them on the same team and maybe they both get a boost from it. I do get that we don’t need more 3rd line nhl tweener’s though.

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I fail to see why the devils would do that. Connor Murphy doesn’t go for a first, especially from a rebuilding team.


I don’t want to sound like a homer, but if you had a better understanding of Connor Murphy you would understand why he goes for a first at minimum.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 12:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Have you seen his last name? Wouldn’t that be like cool?



... In his draft interviews, Boqvist said his older brother was his best friend, which while not crazy unique, is interesting to me. I’d like to see them on the same team and maybe they both get a boost from it. I do get that we don’t need more 3rd line nhl tweener’s though.



I don’t want to sound like a homer, but if you had a better understanding of Connor Murphy you would understand why he goes for a first at minimum.


I doubt it, but Connor Murphy could go for a late first, depending on how much a team wants him. I would be shocked if he did go for a first.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 12:26 p.m.
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I doubt it, but Connor Murphy could go for a late first, depending on how much a team wants him. I would be shocked if he did go for a first.


Anyone that has watched a lot of Murphy's play versus look at stat sheets or worse yet point production, I, along with a others who do watch him or numerous analysts, just can't imagine how one would think Murphy isn't worth a 1st.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.
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Regula is a better prospect than Boqvist, so that alone makes this deal not worth it for us. Boqvist hasnt proven anything and hes already 22. We don't need another Nylander
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Have you seen his last name? Wouldn’t that be like cool?



... In his draft interviews, Boqvist said his older brother was his best friend, which while not crazy unique, is interesting to me. I’d like to see them on the same team and maybe they both get a boost from it. I do get that we don’t need more 3rd line nhl tweener’s though.



I don’t want to sound like a homer, but if you had a better understanding of Connor Murphy you would understand why he goes for a first at minimum.


I get that part with the name and relationship, but we already have a logjam of middle 6 wingers, so is it worth giving up a good defensive prospect in regula when we are otherwise bare with RHD prospects and also moving Murphy? Then acquiring Jammer who is broken and at the end of his career? I would much rather look at this long term with Murphy for now and waiting for Regula, Boqvist and Mitchell to become the future for years to come versus giving up that to acquire another middle 6 winger. Just to be clear, I'm not opposed to acquiring Boqvist, but let's give up assets we can afford to, maybe Kurashev?
Apr. 20, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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I get that part with the name and relationship, but we already have a logjam of middle 6 wingers, so is it worth giving up a good defensive prospect in regula when we are otherwise bare with RHD prospects and also moving Murphy? Then acquiring Jammer who is broken and at the end of his career? I would much rather look at this long term with Murphy for now and waiting for Regula, Boqvist and Mitchell to become the future for years to come versus giving up that to acquire another middle 6 winger. Just to be clear, I'm not opposed to acquiring Boqvist, but let's give up assets we can afford to, maybe Kurashev?


Kurashev is better than Boqvist at this point.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.
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Kurashev is better than Boqvist at this point.


Agree which can be balanced out by picks. Regula though is a more strategic prospect and as such important value then another middle 6 winger in Boqvist
Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
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I'm curious, not because I think you are wrong or right, by why the obsession with Jesper Boqvist?


He is a very talented prospect. A ton of speed, skill.
Could use a shot of confidence, maybe change of scenery.
He has produced offense in SHL and AHL...but seems a little gun shy in NHL.

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I fail to see why the devils would do that. Connor Murphy doesn’t go for a first, especially from a rebuilding team.


I think the idea would be that it would come with an extension.
Devils are rebuilding, but also have tons of cap space (starting to worry about cap floor).
And a serious need for another d-man or two.
We have a bunch of prospects, but they aren't ready yet.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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He is a very talented prospect. A ton of speed, skill.
Could use a shot of confidence, maybe change of scenery.
He has produced offense in SHL and AHL...but seems a little gun shy in NHL.



I think the idea would be that it would come with an extension.
Devils are rebuilding, but also have tons of cap space (starting to worry about cap floor).
And a serious need for another d-man or two.
We have a bunch of prospects, but they aren't ready yet.


Maybe... I just don’t see a team like the devils where they are bad giving up a first for a guy like Connor Murphy.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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He is a very talented prospect. A ton of speed, skill.
Could use a shot of confidence, maybe change of scenery.
He has produced offense in SHL and AHL...but seems a little gun shy in NHL.



I think the idea would be that it would come with an extension.
Devils are rebuilding, but also have tons of cap space (starting to worry about cap floor).
And a serious need for another d-man or two.
We have a bunch of prospects, but they aren't ready yet.


Yeah, it would have to come with an extension.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
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Maybe... I just don’t see a team like the devils where they are bad giving up a first for a guy like Connor Murphy.


Its the NY Islanders 1st. We wouldn't deal our own 1st.
If we are going to be good, we have to build around the Hughes/Hischier/Bratt/Smith/Blackwood timeline.
Which means a veteran in that window would be 26-28 now.
Murphy checks a lot of boxes for us:

(1) Size on blueline.
(2) RHD (Subban leaves after next year and no apparent replacement in House...Reilly Walsh, Case McCarthy leading options now).
(3) Defensive d-man (we have plenty of offensive d-man)
(4) Could be obtainable without dealing from core
Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.
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Its the NY Islanders 1st. We wouldn't deal our own 1st.
If we are going to be good, we have to build around the Hughes/Hischier/Bratt/Smith/Blackwood timeline.
Which means a veteran in that window would be 26-28 now.
Murphy checks a lot of boxes for us:

(1) Size on blueline.
(2) RHD (Subban leaves after next year and no apparent replacement in House...Reilly Walsh, Case McCarthy leading options now).
(3) Defensive d-man (we have plenty of offensive d-man)
(4) Could be obtainable without dealing from core


Definitely valid! It will be interesting to see if Connor Murphy gets traded, but like i said, I don’t think a rebuilding team would trade a first even if it’s the isles first.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.
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Definitely valid! It will be interesting to see if Connor Murphy gets traded, but like i said, I don’t think a rebuilding team would trade a first even if it’s the isles first.


Other than adding through the draft....if you have any other ideas, I'm all ears.
Teams aren't trading anyone on ELCs these days.
I don't know where else they'd look to add a big, defensive RHD.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.
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I can't see really a situation where Chicago would get a 1st for Murphy, have to agree with the other people that are saying that here. Anyone saying "oh I've watched him and he is definitely worth a 1st" is more than likely just a fan of Chicago and their opinion is bias. But looking at Murphy in reality an in perspective, he's not worth a 1st. David Savard was just traded for a 1st at the deadline, and he is far better than Murphy.

In order to get that 1st round pick, Columbus had to get a 3rd team involved to retain even more salary. While I'd make the argument that other player trade value's aren't the best comparison tool, the Savard trade is too much of a similarity to ignore. Usually, a player's value is determined more by the demand of the player. Ex. Foligno was in high demand, Columbus was able to get a 1st for him. Whereas Hall wasn't in as high of demand and had control over his sitation, which limited the return to less than what Foligno got even though there's no justifiable argument that Foligno is better than Hall. But in this situation, Savard and Murphy are similar types of players in terms of play style and contract status. The difference being that Savard is far better and could play on a contending team's top pair, where Murphy isn't that capable and on a contending team is more of a 3rd pair defenceman. Columbus could argue that a top pair defenceman in Savard was worth a 1st, but I don't see any valid argument saying that Murphy is a top pair guy on a contending team, and if he is, that team has some serious defensive problems and isn't a true contender.

I see a more reasonable trade value as something similar to what Ottawa received for Mike Reilly this year (which was a 2022 3rd round pick). Reilly was having a career season and playing top 4 minutes on a bottom feeding team, but on a contending team he's barely a top 4 (when Carlo is back, likely not in the top 4 at all) but he's a very good 3rd pairing option that plays strong defensively - that's almost exactly the same thing that Murphy is. I don't see a team that's further away from an elite contender paying more to get him than a contender would. Chicago could argue that Murphy is right handed and slightly in demand more, sure which would be countered by the fact that Reilly's contract was only pro-rated for $1.5M where Murphy is at $3.850M for a full season. The added cap and real money (which is $4M for next season) would negate his value back closer to Reilly's. So I'd say at most (if there was a bidding war), Chicago would be lucky to get a 2nd round pick, maybe include a lower tier prospect as well but you'd be stretching it. If Boqvist is your target from New Jersey because of the connection to his brother in Chicago, I'd say it'd probably be straight up Murphy for Boqvist, maybe you could convince New Jersey to toss in a late round pick, but anything more and New Jersey likely walks away.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.
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Other than adding through the draft....if you have any other ideas, I'm all ears.
Teams aren't trading anyone on ELCs these days.
I don't know where else they'd look to add a big, defensive RHD.


100% right they won’t trade ELCs. I wonder if you guys would push for a guy like Adam Larsson. Not big but defensive! It’s hard to get one without giving good core pieces for the player. Murphy would look nice, but don’t you have Subban, Severson, Walsh etc on the right? Or at least coming up? I don’t see a fit, with Subban in the way.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 1:59 p.m.
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100% right they won’t trade ELCs. I wonder if you guys would push for a guy like Adam Larsson. Not big but defensive! It’s hard to get one without giving good core pieces for the player. Murphy would look nice, but don’t you have Subban, Severson, Walsh etc on the right? Or at least coming up? I don’t see a fit, with Subban in the way.


Damon Severson
PK Subban (1 year left)
Reilly Walsh - skilled, puck-moving type
Case McCarthy - defensive type, but still in college

Subban gets a lot of hate, but reality is that he has been pretty good middle-pair for us, especially this season.
(and we don't mind the $9 million price tag now as we need it to stay above cap floor)
If he leaves after next year, it opens big hole on right side.
The thinking is that Walsh will be ready to step up into his slot, but then still need 3rd pair RHD.
McCarthy has 1-2 years at BU left.

Our depth on left side is better, but need a #2 after Smith. Hoping the draft fills that.

Two-way LHDs
Ty Smith
Ethan Edwards

Offensive LHDs
Will Butcher
Michael Vukojovic

Defensive LHDs
Jonas Siegenthaler
Nikita Okhotyuk
Kevin Bahl
Shakir Muhkhamadullin
Daniil Misyul
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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I would rather keep murphy than trade him for a late 1st in a weak draft with limited scouting. Regula for Boqvist is a wash imo
Apr. 20, 2021 at 2:43 p.m.
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I can't see really a situation where Chicago would get a 1st for Murphy, have to agree with the other people that are saying that here. Anyone saying "oh I've watched him and he is definitely worth a 1st" is more than likely just a fan of Chicago and their opinion is bias. But looking at Murphy in reality an in perspective, he's not worth a 1st. David Savard was just traded for a 1st at the deadline, and he is far better than Murphy.

In order to get that 1st round pick, Columbus had to get a 3rd team involved to retain even more salary. While I'd make the argument that other player trade value's aren't the best comparison tool, the Savard trade is too much of a similarity to ignore. Usually, a player's value is determined more by the demand of the player. Ex. Foligno was in high demand, Columbus was able to get a 1st for him. Whereas Hall wasn't in as high of demand and had control over his sitation, which limited the return to less than what Foligno got even though there's no justifiable argument that Foligno is better than Hall. But in this situation, Savard and Murphy are similar types of players in terms of play style and contract status. The difference being that Savard is far better and could play on a contending team's top pair, where Murphy isn't that capable and on a contending team is more of a 3rd pair defenceman. Columbus could argue that a top pair defenceman in Savard was worth a 1st, but I don't see any valid argument saying that Murphy is a top pair guy on a contending team, and if he is, that team has some serious defensive problems and isn't a true contender.

I see a more reasonable trade value as something similar to what Ottawa received for Mike Reilly this year (which was a 2022 3rd round pick). Reilly was having a career season and playing top 4 minutes on a bottom feeding team, but on a contending team he's barely a top 4 (when Carlo is back, likely not in the top 4 at all) but he's a very good 3rd pairing option that plays strong defensively - that's almost exactly the same thing that Murphy is. I don't see a team that's further away from an elite contender paying more to get him than a contender would. Chicago could argue that Murphy is right handed and slightly in demand more, sure which would be countered by the fact that Reilly's contract was only pro-rated for $1.5M where Murphy is at $3.850M for a full season. The added cap and real money (which is $4M for next season) would negate his value back closer to Reilly's. So I'd say at most (if there was a bidding war), Chicago would be lucky to get a 2nd round pick, maybe include a lower tier prospect as well but you'd be stretching it. If Boqvist is your target from New Jersey because of the connection to his brother in Chicago, I'd say it'd probably be straight up Murphy for Boqvist, maybe you could convince New Jersey to toss in a late round pick, but anything more and New Jersey likely walks away.


If you can find me a stat that says "David Savard is way better than Connor Murphy" I would love to see it
Apr. 20, 2021 at 2:58 p.m.
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If you can find me a stat that says "David Savard is way better than Connor Murphy" I would love to see it


First off, let me guess you're a Blackhawks fan..

One of the best stats for judging a players defensive impact is xGA. Savard is better than Murphy in that regard but a fairly significant margin. So yes, Savard is in fact better.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.
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First off, let me guess you're a Blackhawks fan..

One of the best stats for judging a players defensive impact is xGA. Savard is better than Murphy in that regard but a fairly significant margin. So yes, Savard is in fact better.


Im not just talking about defensive impact. Savard has a better ixG, sure, but a .4 advantage is hardly "way better." In his 40 games with columbus, Savard averaged about 3 minutes less per game, half as many points (offensive production matters), and most of their other stats are very similar. Murphy did this all while being anchored next to everyone's favorite pylon, Nikita Zadorov. Connor Murphy, if he were to be dealt during the summer, would also have a full season to operate while Savard was a deadline deal. Saying Murphy wouldn't be capable of playing top 4 minutes is asinine because he does it for 25 minutes a night without having any help on his left side.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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Im not just talking about defensive impact. Savard has a better ixG, sure, but a .4 advantage is hardly "way better." In his 40 games with columbus, Savard averaged about 3 minutes less per game, half as many points (offensive production matters), and most of their other stats are very similar. Murphy did this all while being anchored next to everyone's favorite pylon, Nikita Zadorov. Connor Murphy, if he were to be dealt during the summer, would also have a full season to operate while Savard was a deadline deal. Saying Murphy wouldn't be capable of playing top 4 minutes is asinine because he does it for 25 minutes a night without having any help on his left side.


Tbh, no disrespect but I'm not going to debate with a Blackhawks fan. Way too much biasness in that which won't lead to anything good.

We'll just agree to disagree.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.
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Tbh, no disrespect but I'm not going to debate with a Blackhawks fan. Way too much biasness in that which won't lead to anything good.

We'll just agree to disagree.


I'm usually pretty unbiased in my opinions of Blackhawks players and their values, or atleast compared to other fans on this site, but Murphy's is a hill I'll die on. And I get it. By no means am I saying Murphy is better. I just think when it comes to the best defenseman on a ****ty team, its pretty easy to undervalue him. But as you said, agree to disagree.
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