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Team: 2021-22 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 20, 2021
Published: Apr. 20, 2021
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Free Agent Signings
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1$825,000
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1$1,500,000
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1.
BUF
  1. Brisson, Brendan [Reserve List]
  2. Glass, Cody
  3. 2021 1st round pick (VGK)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
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For those about to say this isn't enough. Look at the Hall trade, Adams easily considers this at a minimum.
2.
EDM
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (VGK)
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if they get rid of Koskinen
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 8:17 p.m.
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Using the Hall trade isn’t a good template. Hall had a NMC Eichel doesn’t. Hall only wanted to go to Boston, Jack has no say.. so no this wouldn’t be enough.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 8:19 p.m.
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I don’t think that gets Eichel. It’s close though.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 8:20 p.m.
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The reasoning for the Eichel trade is insanely nonsensical
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 8:21 p.m.
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Hall had a NMC and would only waive to Boston and had a rough year and was a pending UFA.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 8:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
The reasoning for the Eichel trade is insanely nonsensical


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Hall had a NMC and would only waive to Boston and had a rough year and was a pending UFA.

Why is this so hard to understand?


a depreciating asset with a rookie GM screams Buffalo wouldn't get a great return for Eichel. As for Hall, trading him to a divisional rival, the day before deadline day, for a 2nd and Bjork is a bad job by the GM. I get the NMC complicates things, but you can't sell the biggest asset at the deadline for less than Sam Bennett, NMC or not.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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a depreciating asset with a rookie GM screams Buffalo wouldn't get a great return for Eichel. As for Hall, trading him to a divisional rival, the day before deadline day, for a 2nd and Bjork is a bad job by the GM. I get the NMC complicates things, but you can't sell the biggest asset at the deadline for less than Sam Bennett, NMC or not.


You clearly don't get the NMC impact
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 9:45 p.m.
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Lmao. Look at the hall trade? Apparently you have no idea what a rental with a full NMC can demand. Lol
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 9:45 p.m.
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a depreciating asset with a rookie GM screams Buffalo wouldn't get a great return for Eichel. As for Hall, trading him to a divisional rival, the day before deadline day, for a 2nd and Bjork is a bad job by the GM. I get the NMC complicates things, but you can't sell the biggest asset at the deadline for less than Sam Bennett, NMC or not.


Lmao. Clueless haha
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 10:13 p.m.
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a depreciating asset with a rookie GM screams Buffalo wouldn't get a great return for Eichel. As for Hall, trading him to a divisional rival, the day before deadline day, for a 2nd and Bjork is a bad job by the GM. I get the NMC complicates things, but you can't sell the biggest asset at the deadline for less than Sam Bennett, NMC or not.


"depreciating asset". Also Hall turned down other teams Adams had worked out deals with.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 10:35 p.m.
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Quoting: NoWah49
a depreciating asset with a rookie GM screams Buffalo wouldn't get a great return for Eichel. As for Hall, trading him to a divisional rival, the day before deadline day, for a 2nd and Bjork is a bad job by the GM. I get the NMC complicates things, but you can't sell the biggest asset at the deadline for less than Sam Bennett, NMC or not.


Yes you can lol, Bennett is an RFA, signed for 6 million less, with no movement clause.....Hall also was gone no matter what, which also puts pressure and loses leverage. If you think situation is at comparable to Jack, to which in if they aren't getting the price they want, they could easily just keep him...very poor logic
Apr. 20, 2021 at 10:47 p.m.
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Not sure why people are crapping on the Eichel trade. I thought I read they want the equivalent of 4 firsts and this... is that
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:03 p.m.
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Quoting: jfrojelin
Not sure why people are crapping on the Eichel trade. I thought I read they want the equivalent of 4 firsts and this... is that


thanks I don't even think it's THAT bad lmao
Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Lmao. Look at the hall trade? Apparently you have no idea what a rental with a full NMC can demand. Lol


Nick Foligno also had a NMC, is a much worse player, and fetched a first
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.
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Nick Foligno also had a NMC, is a much worse player, and fetched a first


A couple things wrong with this short post. First, Foligno's NMC changed to a Limited NMC in the 2020/2021 season - had to submit a list of 10 teams he wouldn't go to. Second, Hall has been playing much worse than Foligno this year. Third, Hall would only waive his to go to Boston, the other team he almost signed with.

So very close to an accurate statement by you. It is crazy, you can look up all these things on the internet, yet you decided to make up your own facts.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:11 p.m.
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Not sure why people are crapping on the Eichel trade. I thought I read they want the equivalent of 4 firsts and this... is that

A late first is basically a 2nd rd pick when you look at the odds of success. Just because it has the number 1 in front of it, it doesn’t mean that it carries as much weight in an Eichel trade as you’d like to think it does.
Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:17 p.m.
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
A couple things wrong with this short post. First, Foligno's NMC changed to a Limited NMC in the 2020/2021 season - had to submit a list of 10 teams he wouldn't go to. Second, Hall has been playing much worse than Foligno this year. Third, Hall would only waive his to go to Boston, the other team he almost signed with.

So very close to an accurate statement by you. It is crazy, you can look up all these things on the internet, yet you decided to make up your own facts.


I'm not making up anything. I can't believe Sabres fans are satisfied with the return for the biggest rental of the deadline by saying "oh well, he had a NMC". I get it, having a NMC makes it nearly impossible to trade the asset, but you have to have SOME kind of leverage in a trade conversation. Even better, read the market and beat the Blue Jackets and give the Leafs their playoff rental and get a first.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:19 p.m.
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A late first is basically a 2nd rd pick when you look at the odds of success. Just because it has the number 1 in front of it, it doesn’t mean that it carries as much weight in an Eichel trade as you’d like to think it does.


with good scouting it can be something, but unfortunately Buffalo doesn't have any lol
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:22 p.m.
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with good scouting it can be something, but unfortunately Buffalo doesn't have any lol

Wait. Other teams scout players?
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:22 p.m.
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
A couple things wrong with this short post. First, Foligno's NMC changed to a Limited NMC in the 2020/2021 season - had to submit a list of 10 teams he wouldn't go to. Second, Hall has been playing much worse than Foligno this year. Third, Hall would only waive his to go to Boston, the other team he almost signed with.

So very close to an accurate statement by you. It is crazy, you can look up all these things on the internet, yet you decided to make up your own facts.


you have to at least see where I'm coming from. on one of your AGM teams, not even a month ago, you have Hall going to Boston for a 1st, Debrusk, and Studnicka
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:24 p.m.
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Wait. Other teams scout players?


my point is that if you actually have a solid scouting department, then you would have a much better chance of getting an NHL player in late 1st/2nd round. Buffalo already shot themselves in the foot with how they're going about their scouting.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:25 p.m.
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my point is that if you actually have a solid scouting department, then you would have a much better chance of getting an NHL player in late 1st/2nd round. Buffalo already shot themselves in the foot with how they're going about their scouting.

I understood. Buffalos scouting has been atrocious. That said, late first statistically are not nearly as equivalent as a top 10. The rate of success drops pretty quickly.
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:28 p.m.
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I understood. Buffalos scouting has been atrocious. That said, late first statistically are not nearly as equivalent as a top 10. The rate of success drops pretty quickly.


oh I misunderstood you my bad. everyone is in a tizzy about No Move Clauses on here. Personally I think Buffalo should target already drafted prospects (if you're able to get Byfield, that would be phenomenal).
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Apr. 20, 2021 at 11:32 p.m.
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oh I misunderstood you my bad. everyone is in a tizzy about No Move Clauses on here. Personally I think Buffalo should target already drafted prospects (if you're able to get Byfield, that would be phenomenal).

I agree. I think he’s the ideal return. I mean, the Kings would still get the best player, but getting Byfield in a deal is probably best case scenario.
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 12:04 a.m.
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I understood. Buffalos scouting has been atrocious. That said, late first statistically are not nearly as equivalent as a top 10. The rate of success drops pretty quickly.


In most years, outside of the top 3 picks, there is a huge drop off on the chance of hitting on that prospect.
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
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a depreciating asset with a rookie GM screams Buffalo wouldn't get a great return for Eichel. As for Hall, trading him to a divisional rival, the day before deadline day, for a 2nd and Bjork is a bad job by the GM. I get the NMC complicates things, but you can't sell the biggest asset at the deadline for less than Sam Bennett, NMC or not.
I had no faith in Kevyn Adams before the TDL.
Signing Eakin, Davidson, Irwin while letting Gilmore, and Redmond walk was terrible.
Over paid Eakin, Girgensons and especially Hall.
Taking Quinn over Rossi was a pure bonehead move.
IMO the other NHL GM's colluded knowing trading him him was equivalent to taking candy from a baby.
Do not forget, the Sabres also sent Lazar to Boston to get Bjork.
The trade you proposed is a little lite, but based on passed experience, that is about what Adams would get.
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