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Fixing Buffalo

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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 21, 2021
Published: Apr. 21, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
BUF
WPG
  1. Miller, Colin
Additional Details:
Seattle
2.
BUF
  1. DeKeyser, Danny ($1,000,000 retained)
DET
  1. Okposo, Kyle
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
3.
BUF
  1. Mattheos, Stelio
  2. McGinn, Brock
  3. 2021 4th round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Skinner, Jeff ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. 2022 1st round pick (BUF)
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Gotta over pay
4.
BUF
  1. Allison, Wade
  2. Lindblom, Oskar
  3. Niskanen, Matt
  4. Sandström, Felix
  5. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
  6. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
  7. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
5.
BUF
  1. 2021 6th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Tokarski, Dustin
  2. 2021 7th round pick (BUF)
6.
BUF
  1. 2021 7th round pick (SJS)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
27$81,500,000$63,775,790$1,487,500$4,685,000$17,724,210
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,050,000$3,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$845,000$845,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$809,166$809,166 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
RFA - 2
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$889,166$889,166
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$864,166$864,166
RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Apr. 21, 2021 at 5:41 p.m.
#1
mokumboi
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Heh. If that's the fix, I'd hate to see breaking them.
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 5:43 p.m.
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You forgot the 2 first round picks it will ACTUALLY take to get rid of Okposo and his two frickin goals...We don't have cap problems and Dekeyser is not a cap dump for us so there's no way were taking your 12 million dollars for a third round pick.
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 5:46 p.m.
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Hardest of passes possible from Detroit.
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 5:49 p.m.
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Doesn’t make a ton of sense for Detroit, 4M DeKeyser for one year and a 6M Okposo for 2 years isn’t a third round difference. I’d wager DeKeyser is close to LTIRetire anyway based on injury history, otherwise, he’s a serviceable LD.

Carolina isn’t taking Skinner, they have to sign Svechnikov & Hamilton.

Buffalo gets screwed in the Philly trade.

I don’t see why SJ would pay for Hutton, the guy sucks.
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 5:52 p.m.
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So you wanna retain 2.5 million for 6 years AND move our first round pick in the really good 22 draft AFTER you give eichel away? You realize that we could just buy skinner out and pay that much for an additional 5 years AND get to keep a pick that could be a generational talent, right? There is literally no chance that happens.
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 5:53 p.m.
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I heard that Niskanen had retired, and his contract ends this season in any event. Shouldn't you be using the 2021-2022 roster framework?
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 6:04 p.m.
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I agree with the confused takes above me, and additionally Ottawa says no? We played 5 goalies this year why do we want another
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 6:11 p.m.
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Every team titled "fixing Buffalo" is filled with ea sports trades that make the Sabres infinitely worse
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 6:12 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
You forgot the 2 first round picks it will ACTUALLY take to get rid of Okposo and his two frickin goals...We don't have cap problems and Dekeyser is not a cap dump for us so there's no way were taking your 12 million dollars for a third round pick.


It wont cost close that much, total dollars doesnt mean anything
Apr. 21, 2021 at 6:23 p.m.
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Why give up an asset to trade Okposo with 17 million in cap space available. He is grossly overpaid but an effective bottom 6 forward. The Sabres just ride out his last 2 years unless someone is willing to take his contract for a palatable price and they are up against the cap
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 6:37 p.m.
#11
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Every single thing you’ve decided to do here except trying to rip off Detroit to take Okposo is stupid. And if any Sabres GM did any of these other things he should be fired immediately.
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Apr. 21, 2021 at 6:56 p.m.
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CAR trade makes no sense

Eichel to Philly trade is terrible
Apr. 21, 2021 at 7:54 p.m.
#13
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Carolina already had to deal with Skinner once... no way they take him back except on a one day contract for him to retire. It was the Sabres fault for signing him to that terrible contract. That contract and this situation could have been avoided if you looked at his yearly stats and his stats in contract years.
Apr. 22, 2021 at 8:52 a.m.
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Niskanen Retired...... dont make a trade unless you know who the players are you are trading.
Apr. 22, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
It wont cost close that much, total dollars doesnt mean anything


No the two year cap hit at 6 million dollars is what matters. And yes it would cost every bit of that and probably more.
Apr. 22, 2021 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
No the two year cap hit at 6 million dollars is what matters. And yes it would cost every bit of that and probably more.


Literally just saw someone take Risto and Okposo and give a 2nd
Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
It wont cost close that much, total dollars doesnt mean anything


Quoting: RedWing9119
No the two year cap hit at 6 million dollars is what matters. And yes it would cost every bit of that and probably more.


I don’t think it will cost 2x first round picks + especially when you factor in Buffalo is the worst team in the NHL nor did they acquire a first round pick at the TDL. It would also acquire a lot more than a third rounder based on deals we’ve already seen completed. I also don’t think people understand the NHL is a business so total dollars do count for most of these owners. ROR was traded pre-roster bonus of 7.5M is an example of your team potentially cutting costs or the fact the Pegulas cut ~23 FO staff and haven’t rehired anyone to replace them. The last I checked they had 7 scouts. I’d understand firing them if they didn’t perform to expectations but then you’d back fill the position which wasn’t done.

Quoting: Shibbal18
Literally just saw someone take Risto and Okposo and give a 2nd

Was that someone employed by an actual NHL franchise?
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Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Literally just saw someone take Risto and Okposo and give a 2nd


Then you should definitely take that imaginary deal...Because you're not giving him to Detroit for that garbage.
Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:07 p.m.
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I don’t think it will cost 2x first round picks + especially when you factor in Buffalo is the worst team in the NHL nor did they acquire a first round pick at the TDL. It would also acquire a lot more than a third rounder based on deals we’ve already seen completed. I also don’t think people understand the NHL is a business so total dollars do count for most of these owners. ROR was traded pre-roster bonus of 7.5M is an example of your team potentially cutting costs or the fact the Pegulas cut ~23 FO staff and haven’t rehired anyone to replace them. The last I checked they had 7 scouts. I’d understand firing them if they didn’t perform to expectations but then you’d back fill the position which wasn’t done.


Was that someone employed by an actual NHL franchise?


Have you seen someone employed with an NHL franchise demand 2 firsts for 2 years of Okposo?
Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:09 p.m.
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Then you should definitely take that imaginary deal...Because you're not giving him to Detroit for that garbage.


Okposo >> DeKeyser, the 3rd is for the buyout in Okposo's last year
Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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I don’t think it will cost 2x first round picks + especially when you factor in Buffalo is the worst team in the NHL nor did they acquire a first round pick at the TDL. It would also acquire a lot more than a third rounder based on deals we’ve already seen completed. I also don’t think people understand the NHL is a business so total dollars do count for most of these owners. ROR was traded pre-roster bonus of 7.5M is an example of your team potentially cutting costs or the fact the Pegulas cut ~23 FO staff and haven’t rehired anyone to replace them. The last I checked they had 7 scouts. I’d understand firing them if they didn’t perform to expectations but then you’d back fill the position which wasn’t done.


Was that someone employed by an actual NHL franchise?


I'm using hyperbole to make a point to someone who seems incapable of accepting the current cap reality. I don't know why Buffalo would want to make a trade like this but if they did the cost from our perspective is the same whether they NEED to do or just want to do it. Every thing I've read from every insider indicates that cap space is even more valuable than it was a year ago when Toronto coughed up a first to shed Marleau. So yeah it might not be two firsts per se but the cost would be similarly painful.
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Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Okposo >> DeKeyser, the 3rd is for the buyout in Okposo's last year


Except again this is a false equivalency. We don't want or need to trade Dekeyser. You are cap dumping Okposo a player making 6 million dollars for two more years who has scored two goals.
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Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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Except again this is a false equivalency. We don't want or need to trade Dekeyser. You are cap dumping Okposo a player making 6 million dollars for two more years who has scored two goals.


thats imaginary, sabres dont need to dump anybody. Okposo is way more useful than Dekeyser even with 2 goals
Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Have you seen someone employed with an NHL franchise demand 2 firsts for 2 years of Okposo?

Have you seen someone employed by an NHL franchise demand a third to take him on? How about using comparable cap dump trades to formulate an education guess on the cost to dump him?

Quoting: Shibbal18
Okposo >> DeKeyser, the 3rd is for the buyout in Okposo's last year

Interesting, why does Detroit want to trade DDK? Why is Okposo > DDK in your mind? How did you come up a third to buyout the last year which results in 4.67M in dead cap and 2.67M in cash? We can use TDL retention to determine cap/cash in this manner or Marleau’s buyout. Prime example just happened with Detroit retaining on Savard which cost us roughly 200k for a fourth round pick.
Apr. 22, 2021 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
thats imaginary, sabres dont need to dump anybody. Okposo is way more useful than Dekeyser even with 2 goals


I'm going to end this conversation as politely as I can by suggesting, with the upmost respect, that you spend a little more time on reading and comprehension.
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