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first round exit

Created by: Isles777
Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 24, 2021
Published: Apr. 24, 2021
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it seems like lou/trotz are more concerned about "their way" than winning. With the lines the way they are this team is the worst in the division right now. We went from cup contender to lottery team - give trotz the jack Adams though...

I cannot believe the isles gave up a 1st rd pick to replace barzal at 1C and put a winger who can't create for himself on a line with players who can't get him the puck. You can't make this sh*t up.

This is what the lines should be moving forward.
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2021
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2022
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26$81,500,000$78,113,334$0$3,075,000$3,386,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,325,000$2,325,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
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LD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 (Performance Bonus$2,000,000$2M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
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UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$5,500,000$5,500,000 ($4,425,000$4M$4,425,000$4M)
LW
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UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 ($1,425,000$1M$1,425,000$1M)
LD
UFA - 2
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$894,166$894,166 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, RW
UFA - 2

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Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:19 a.m.
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LOL yeah ok. Pens are probably the favorite to escape the metro at this point. It's between them and WSH.
They got as good a chance as any to win a cup once they get out the metro.

You don't know Trotz and you don't know your own team. We all know what Trotz wants to do. He has never changed in all his time in the NHL.
He thinks gooning wins games. He's been like that well before he got to NY. He'll be like that well after he leaves NY. They lack the talent in the top 9. Period. So in comes a heavy does of your 4th line to "win" games. We both know that's what is going to happen, only one of us is willing to say it out loud and the other is in denial.


Pens goaltending has been pretty bad as of late. If jarry starts in the playoffs ...yikes. The D isn’t good enough to go far either. Forward group is solid. To be honest the pens window to win another cup is closed. Good enough to make the playoffs, not good enough to make a deep run.
Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:22 a.m.
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LOL yeah ok. Pens are probably the favorite to escape the metro at this point. It's between them and WSH.
They got as good a chance as any to win a cup once they get out the metro.


You don't know Trotz and you don't know your own team. We all know what Trotz wants to do. He has never changed in all his time in the NHL.
He thinks gooning wins games. He's been like that well before he got to NY. He'll be like that well after he leaves NY. They lack the talent in the top 9. Period. So in comes a heavy does of your 4th line to "win" games. We both know that's what is going to happen, only one of us is willing to say it out loud and the other is in denial.


Agreed. A lot of people are sleeping on pit just like they did to start 2015/16. Pens got off to an awful start in 2015/16, had a coaching change, then started to peak at the right time and headed into the playoffs hot with low expectations as most people pegged pit as a second round exit best case scenario. Sound familiar? Not saying they’re a favourite to win the cup, but I see an awful lot of similarities between the two teams. Especially if pens get healthy and are able to roll all 4 lines.
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Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:25 a.m.
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Pens goaltending has been pretty bad as of late. If jarry starts in the playoffs ...yikes. The D isn’t good enough to go far either. Forward group is solid. To be honest the pens window to win another cup is closed. Good enough to make the playoffs, not good enough to make a deep run.


The D core is absolutely good enough. Pens got a great top 6 with Dumo/Letang, MP/Marino, Matheson/Ceci. Once again, the exact same people said in 2015/16 that the window was closed and the D was not good enough LOL.
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Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:29 a.m.
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The D core is absolutely good enough. Pens got a great top 6 with Dumo/Letang, MP/Marino, Matheson/Ceci. Once again, the exact same people said in 2015/16 that the window was closed and the D was not good enough LOL.


Letang was still a top 10 D in 15-16. Dumoulin-letang has not been a good top pairing this season.
Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:29 a.m.
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Pens goaltending has been pretty bad as of late. If jarry starts in the playoffs ...yikes. The D isn’t good enough to go far either. Forward group is solid. To be honest the pens window to win another cup is closed. Good enough to make the playoffs, not good enough to make a deep run.


Their defense is one of the best in the league by a country mile. Far better than NYI for sure.
Matter of fact, they have the best Dcore in the Metro. Hands down. NYI is not good, BOS sucks, and WSH has a statue and one of the worst defense man in the whole league in Schultz. It's really WSH achilleas heel is their defense.
So don't come over here with this nonsense.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The two deepest teams in the metro are PIT and then WSH. Period.
And either one of them has just a good a shot of playing for a cup once they get out the metro as anyone else. God know they aren't losing to over rated teams like TOR. And both these teams have pounded on CAR for years. CAR would be a 4th place team here. But in that weaker division that's where they are. The only other Major roadblock to playing for a cup is TB. But they too have to get out on the ice healthy.
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Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:30 a.m.
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Letang was still a top 10 D in 15-16. Dumoulin-letang has not been a good top pairing this season.


You’re joking right... Letang has been excellent this year. Once again going to be in the running for the Norris. Dumo has been great since he’s come back as well

Put your advanced stats to bed please. Clearly your model is flawed
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Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:30 a.m.
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Their defense is one of the best in the league by a country mile. Far better than NYI for sure.
Matter of fact, they have the best Dcore in the Metro. Hands down. NYI is not good, BOS sucks, and WSH has a statue and one of the worst defense man in the whole league in Schultz. It's really WSH achilleas heel is their defense.
So don't come over here with this nonsense.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The two deepest teams in the metro are PIT and then WSH. Period.
And either one of them has just a good a shot of playing for a cup once they get out the metro as anyone else. God know they aren't losing to over rated teams like TOR. And both these teams have pounded on CAR for years. CAR would be a 4th place team here. But in that weaker division that's where they are. The only other Major roadblock to playing for a cup is TB. But they too have to get out on the ice healthy.



I have no idea why I even bother tbh
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Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:43 a.m.
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Their defense is one of the best in the league by a country mile. Far better than NYI for sure.
Matter of fact, they have the best Dcore in the Metro. Hands down. NYI is not good, BOS sucks, and WSH has a statue and one of the worst defense man in the whole league in Schultz. It's really WSH achilleas heel is their defense.
So don't come over here with this nonsense.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The two deepest teams in the metro are PIT and then WSH. Period.
And either one of them has just a good a shot of playing for a cup once they get out the metro as anyone else. God know they aren't losing to over rated teams like TOR. And both these teams have pounded on CAR for years. CAR would be a 4th place team here. But in that weaker division that's where they are. The only other Major roadblock to playing for a cup is TB. But they too have to get out on the ice healthy.


Quoting: mhockey91
You’re joking right... Letang has been excellent this year. Once again going to be in the running for the Norris. Dumo has been great since he’s come back as well

Put your advanced stats to bed please. Clearly your model is flawed


Lol talk about bias. The pens D core is definitely not better than WSH, but go off.

Not gonna lie It’s pretty funny seeing you hype up the pens only for them to not get past the 2nd round.
Apr. 25, 2021 at 1:56 a.m.
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Lol talk about bias. The pens D core is definitely not better than WSH, but go off.

Not gonna lie It’s pretty funny seeing you hype up the pens only for them to not get past the 2nd round.


oh you're just bitter you're out 1st round.
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Apr. 25, 2021 at 2:00 a.m.
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oh you're just bitter you're out 1st round.


I’m actually good either way - I’d actually prefer the 1st rd exit so its one step closer to trotz getting fired - but if they win I won’t complain. You on the other hand actually think the pens are making a deep run 😂 - all that hype just to be let down. It’s going to suck for you
Apr. 25, 2021 at 10:44 a.m.
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Lol talk about bias. The pens D core is definitely not better than WSH, but go off.

Not gonna lie It’s pretty funny seeing you hype up the pens only for them to not get past the 2nd round.


It’s very comparable actually. Once again maybe watch a game instead of reading charts. Pens vs caps in a 7 game series anything can happen. Both teams are evenly matched. I never said the pens are a lock to go past the second round. I said this team is good enough for a serious run. Whether it will happen or not will depend on many factors, including some luck. In fact, I think any of the 4 east teams can go on a deep run. Couldn’t care less what you think.
 
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