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trading the best player VEGAS

Created by: NoWah49
Team: 2021-22 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 26, 2021
Published: Apr. 26, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$4,000,000
Trades
VGK
  1. Couturier, Sean ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. Voracek, Jakub
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$76,549,105$285,772$412,500$4,950,895
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
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UFA - 2
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$2,333,333$2,333,333
C
UFA - 1
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$791,667$791,667
LD
RFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$716,667$716,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Apr. 26, 2021 at 10:48 p.m.
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Hell no, Couts has one year left.
Apr. 26, 2021 at 10:51 p.m.
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NoWah49
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Quoting: BStinson
Hell no, Couts has one year left.


say he had an extension in place, do you do it
Apr. 26, 2021 at 11:13 p.m.
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Quoting: NoWah49
say he had an extension in place, do you do it


if he has an extension i think you would have to take Glass out
Apr. 26, 2021 at 11:14 p.m.
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NoWah49
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
if he has an extension i think you would have to take Glass out


i'm confused, so less value goes to Philly?
Apr. 26, 2021 at 11:22 p.m.
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CbjSabresDucks
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Quoting: NoWah49
i'm confused, so less value goes to Philly?


actually ya know what, im not sure. but stone is the best player in the deal and vegas is getting a cap dump in Voracek, so i feel like you could argue vegas shouldnt be giving up extra on top of Stone
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Apr. 27, 2021 at 4:38 a.m.
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Voracek is no just a cap dump.

Is he overpaid, yes? But not by that much, and hes consistent and has no injury history. Hes a reliable 60+ pt 2nd line player and will most likely remain one through his contract.

And yes Stone is the best player in the deal if youre looking at pts alone.

PHI says no. Glass and Holden dont equal Voracek and Coots, a 1st and 2mil in retention is way too much for Stone
Apr. 27, 2021 at 8:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Voracek is no just a cap dump.

Is he overpaid, yes? But not by that much, and hes consistent and has no injury history. Hes a reliable 60+ pt 2nd line player and will most likely remain one through his contract.

And yes Stone is the best player in the deal if youre looking at pts alone.

PHI says no. Glass and Holden dont equal Voracek and Coots, a 1st and 2mil in retention is way too much for Stone


Considering the cap is going to be flat the entirety of Voracek's contract he 100% is a cap dump. Yeah he is still a solid player but that contract would be an anchor for a team like Vegas so tight against the cap. Vegas has comparable players at 5M so if Philly wants to retain on him then he will have positive trade value.

I am glad you pointed out that Stone is the best player when looking at points alone. We can now point out that Stone is one of the best defensive forwards in the league and arguably the best in this regard in this trade. So the best offensive and defensive player in the trade.

Philly has every right to say no but if you are going after Stone there is a good chance this is under valuing him.
 
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