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Seattle Kraken Expansion prediction with trades included

Created by: FullSend
Initial Creation Date: Apr 27, 2021
Published: Apr 27 at 7:20
Team: 2020-21 Seattle Kraken
Team Explanation
Don’t criticize the trades too hard, this is my first time trying this but I do believe Seattle’s team will look somewhat like this. When it’s all said and done, they’ll have just about 8 mill in cap space to spend with players sent down.
In the system: C.Foote, Benson, Salo, Bokk, Lizotte, philips
Potential players they draft in the first round: C Johnson, C Beniers, C/LW Eklund, LD Power, LD Hughes, G Wallstedt
Trades
SEA
  1. Volkov, Alexander
ANA
    SEA
    1. Pitlick, Tyler
    ARI
      SEA
      1. Frederic, Trent
      BOS
        SEA
        1. Bjork, Anders
        BUF
          SEA
          1. Bokk, Dominik
          2. 2021 3rd round pick (CAR)
          CAR
            “Future consideration” AKA not to take Nedeljkovic or Bean
            SEA
            1. Skjei, Brady
            CAR
              SEA
              1. Graves, Ryan
              COL
                SEA
                1. Stenlund, Kevin
                CBJ
                  SEA
                  1. Khudobin, Anton
                  DAL
                    SEA
                    1. Erne, Adam
                    DET
                      SEA
                      1. Lagesson, William
                      2. Neal, James
                      3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
                      EDM
                        Future considerations “cap dump”
                        SEA
                        1. Benson, Tyler
                        EDM
                          SEA
                          1. Lizotte, Blake
                          LAK
                            SEA
                            1. Dumba, Matt
                            MIN
                              SEA
                              1. Evans, Jake
                              MTL
                                SEA
                                1. Järnkrok, Calle
                                NSH
                                  SEA
                                  1. Sharangovich, Yegor
                                  NJD
                                    SEA
                                    1. Bellows, Kieffer
                                    NYI
                                      SEA
                                      1. Howden, Brett
                                      NYR
                                        SEA
                                        1. Paul, Nicholas
                                        OTT
                                          SEA
                                          1. van Riemsdyk, James
                                          PHI
                                            SEA
                                            1. Gambrell, Dylan
                                            SJS
                                              SEA
                                              1. Dunn, Vince
                                              STL
                                                SEA
                                                1. Holl, Justin
                                                TOR
                                                  SEA
                                                  1. Holtby, Braden
                                                  VAN
                                                    SEA
                                                    1. Vanecek, Vitek
                                                    WSH
                                                      SEA
                                                      1. Ladd, Andrew
                                                      2. Salo, Robin
                                                      3. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
                                                      NYI
                                                        “future considerations” aka Ladd cap dump, harder contract to buy out
                                                        SEA
                                                        1. Phillips, Matthew
                                                        CGY
                                                          SEA
                                                          1. Tanev, Brandon
                                                          PIT
                                                            SEA
                                                            1. Appleton, Mason
                                                            WPG
                                                              SEA
                                                              1. Johnson, Tyler
                                                              2. 2022 1st round pick (TBL)
                                                              TBL
                                                                “future considerations” aka taking Johnson
                                                                SEA
                                                                1. Gourde, Yanni
                                                                TBL
                                                                  SEA
                                                                  1. Zadorov, Nikita
                                                                  CHI
                                                                    SEA
                                                                    1. Acciari, Noel
                                                                    FLA
                                                                      Buyouts
                                                                      • James Neal: $1,916,667
                                                                      Buried
                                                                      • Andrew Ladd: $4,425,000 ($5,500,000)
                                                                      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
                                                                      2021
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      CAR
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      2022
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      TBL
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      EDM
                                                                      COL
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      2023
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      SEA
                                                                      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
                                                                      28$81,500,000$73,375,791$0$477,500$8,124,209
                                                                      Left WingCenterRight Wing
                                                                      PHI
                                                                      van Riemsdyk, James
                                                                      $7,000,000
                                                                      LW
                                                                      UFA - 3
                                                                      TBL
                                                                      Johnson, Tyler
                                                                      $5,000,000
                                                                      RW, C
                                                                      NTC
                                                                      UFA - 4
                                                                      NSH
                                                                      Järnkrok, Calle
                                                                      $2,000,000
                                                                      LW, C, RW
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      BUF
                                                                      Bjork, Anders
                                                                      $1,600,000
                                                                      LW, RW
                                                                      RFA - 3
                                                                      TBL
                                                                      Gourde, Yanni
                                                                      $5,166,666
                                                                      C, LW, RW
                                                                      NTC
                                                                      UFA - 5
                                                                      WPG
                                                                      Appleton, Mason
                                                                      $900,000
                                                                      RW, C
                                                                      RFA - 2
                                                                      NJD
                                                                      Sharangovich, Yegor
                                                                      $775,833
                                                                      RW, LW, C
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      OTT
                                                                      Paul, Nicholas
                                                                      $1,350,000
                                                                      C, LW
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      FLA
                                                                      Acciari, Noel
                                                                      $1,666,667
                                                                      RW, C
                                                                      NTC
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      PIT
                                                                      Tanev, Brandon
                                                                      $3,500,000
                                                                      RW, LW
                                                                      NTC
                                                                      UFA - 5
                                                                      MTL
                                                                      Evans, Jake
                                                                      $750,000
                                                                      C, RW
                                                                      RFA - 2
                                                                      ARI
                                                                      Pitlick, Tyler
                                                                      $1,750,000
                                                                      RW
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      DET
                                                                      Erne, Adam
                                                                      $997,500
                                                                      LW, RW
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                                                      STL
                                                                      Dunn, Vince
                                                                      $1,875,000
                                                                      LD/RD
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      MIN
                                                                      Dumba, Matt
                                                                      $6,000,000
                                                                      RD
                                                                      UFA - 3
                                                                      VAN
                                                                      Holtby, Braden
                                                                      $4,300,000
                                                                      G
                                                                      NTC
                                                                      UFA - 2
                                                                      CAR
                                                                      Skjei, Brady
                                                                      $5,250,000
                                                                      LD
                                                                      UFA - 4
                                                                      TOR
                                                                      Holl, Justin
                                                                      $2,000,000
                                                                      RD
                                                                      NTC
                                                                      UFA - 3
                                                                      DAL
                                                                      Khudobin, Anton
                                                                      $3,333,333
                                                                      G
                                                                      NTC
                                                                      UFA - 3
                                                                      COL
                                                                      Graves, Ryan
                                                                      $3,166,667
                                                                      LD
                                                                      UFA - 3
                                                                      CHI
                                                                      Zadorov, Nikita
                                                                      $3,200,000
                                                                      LD/RD
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      WSH
                                                                      Vanecek, Vitek
                                                                      $716,667
                                                                      G
                                                                      RFA - 2
                                                                      EDM
                                                                      Lagesson, William
                                                                      $725,000
                                                                      LD
                                                                      RFA - 2
                                                                      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                                                                      NYI
                                                                      Bellows, Kieffer
                                                                      $894,166
                                                                      C, LW
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      CBJ
                                                                      Stenlund, Kevin
                                                                      $874,125
                                                                      RW, C
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      ANA
                                                                      Volkov, Alexander
                                                                      $700,000
                                                                      LW, RW
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      NYI
                                                                      Salo, Robin
                                                                      $842,500
                                                                      LD
                                                                      RFA - 2
                                                                      SJS
                                                                      Gambrell, Dylan
                                                                      $700,000
                                                                      C
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      Taxi Squad
                                                                      EDM
                                                                      Benson, Tyler
                                                                      $808,333 ($0)
                                                                      LW
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      LAK
                                                                      Lizotte, Blake
                                                                      $925,000 ($0)
                                                                      C
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      CAR
                                                                      Bokk, Dominik
                                                                      $863,333 ($0)
                                                                      LW, RW
                                                                      RFA - 3
                                                                      NYR
                                                                      Howden, Brett
                                                                      $863,333 ($0)
                                                                      C
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      BOS
                                                                      Frederic, Trent
                                                                      $925,000 ($0)
                                                                      C, LW
                                                                      RFA - 1
                                                                      CGY
                                                                      Phillips, Matthew
                                                                      $733,333 ($0)
                                                                      C
                                                                      RFA - 1

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                                                                      Apr 27 at 8:32
                                                                      #26
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                                                                      Quoting: FullSend
                                                                      Fair, I’ll change it


                                                                      FWIW, I think Appleton will work out well for Seattle.
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                                                                      Apr 27 at 8:33
                                                                      #27
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                                                                      Quoting: Bolts20Cup
                                                                      Johnson and a 1 yes but nit Johnson 1 and Fiite


                                                                      Okay changed, Seattle selects Gourde
                                                                      Apr 27 at 8:44
                                                                      #28
                                                                      Bandwagon fairweathe
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                                                                      Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
                                                                      FWIW, I think Appleton will work out well for Seattle.


                                                                      I kinda wonder if Jets upgrade a first like the Vegas draft and seattle takes an old vet ufa, that they have no interest in signing. Possibly If Tb or somebody ships there late 20s 1st to get rid of some cap and the same request, sea flips that pick to wpg for wpgs earlier pick and doing the same. Picking a jet request.
                                                                      Apr 27 at 8:48
                                                                      #29
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                                                                      Quoting: FullSend
                                                                      If the buyout phase begins before the expansion draft then sure.. you can’t just buy a player out mid season, there’s a timeframe in the offseason, it usually starts right before NHL free agency, but if that’s not the case then it all rest on Johnson waiving and that’s that.


                                                                      There is a buyout phase for the draft

                                                                      Seriously you are trying way to hard to make it seem like the avs are in a bad spot

                                                                      Reality is they aren’t even close to being in trouble when it comes to the draft
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                                                                      Apr 27 at 8:50
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                                                                      Quoting: FullSend
                                                                      Tanev being protected is what I agree with now, look up in the comments I thought Gio had a nmc, Holl would make Hyman be unprotected okay sure, Brandon Tanev instead of McCann?? Sure


                                                                      Hyman is a pending UFA, they just sign him after the selection since he likely wont want to play for any team other than Toronto. AFAIK Pittsburgh has been quite disappointed with Zucker and good odds they expose him.

                                                                      Who did you have Florida protecting over Bennett? Wallmark or Acciari?
                                                                      Apr 27 at 8:56
                                                                      #31
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                                                                      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                                      Hyman is a pending UFA, they just sign him after the selection since he likely wont want to play for any team other than Toronto. AFAIK Pittsburgh has been quite disappointed with Zucker and good odds they expose him.

                                                                      Who did you have Florida protecting over Bennett? Wallmark or Acciari?


                                                                      That’s fair with Zucker, I have either him or Tanev being unprotected.
                                                                      Verhaege, Duclair both RFA’s but fit amazingly as close to point per game players on the roster and Vatrano. Vatrano is the only guy I’m skeptical about swapping Bennett with

                                                                      I still think it’s a bet to leave Hyman unprotected idk why, it always speculation when you say players wanna stay with their clubs, they’re supposed to say that
                                                                      Apr 27 at 8:59
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                                                                      Quoting: FullSend
                                                                      That’s fair with Zucker, I have either him or Tanev being unprotected.
                                                                      Verhaege, Duclair both RFA’s but fit amazingly as close to point per game players on the roster and Vatrano. Vatrano is the only guy I’m skeptical about swapping Bennett with


                                                                      Well yeah the 1st 2 will both be protected

                                                                      this is what I have, where does yours differ?
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                                                                      Apr 27 at 9:01
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                                                                      Quoting: Birtle34
                                                                      I kinda wonder if Jets upgrade a first like the Vegas draft and seattle takes an old vet ufa, that they have no interest in signing. Possibly If Tb or somebody ships there late 20s 1st to get rid of some cap and the same request, sea flips that pick to wpg for wpgs earlier pick and doing the same. Picking a jet request.


                                                                      Remember the Vegas pick swap worked because once Enstrom waived his NMC and was exposed, there wasn't much to pick from the available Jets roster (Ehlers, Connor, Morrissey, Laine all on their ELCs). So Vegas' choice was maybe 1-2 years of Enstrom or doing a 1st round pick swap plus a 3rd. This time Seattle can actually select a good long-term asset in Appleton so the protection price goes up to say a 1st (which the Jets shouldn't do).

                                                                      This is what Vegas had to choose from (ouch):
                                                                      Marko Dano (F)
                                                                      Quinton Howden (F)
                                                                      Scott Kosmachuk (F)
                                                                      Tomas Kubalik (F)
                                                                      JC Lipon (F)
                                                                      Shawn Matthias (F)
                                                                      Ryan Olsen (F)
                                                                      Anthony Peluso (F)
                                                                      Chris Thorburn (F)
                                                                      Ben Chiarot (D)
                                                                      Toby Enstrom (D)
                                                                      Brenden Kichton (D)
                                                                      Julian Melchiori (D)
                                                                      Paul Postma (D)
                                                                      Brian Strait (D)
                                                                      Mark Stuart (D)
                                                                      Michael Hutchinson (G)
                                                                      Ondrej Pavelec (G)
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                                                                      Apr 27 at 9:02
                                                                      #34
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                                                                      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                                      Well yeah the 1st 2 will both be protected

                                                                      this is what I have, where does yours differ?
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                                                                      Yeah Wennberg, for some reason I thought he was playing really well to give up on as a solid 3C, but yeah okay Wennberg or Driedger it is??
                                                                      Apr 27 at 9:04
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                                                                      Seattle can take Graves and move on. Avs arent paying anything for no reason. EJ can either waive or be bought out, meaning Girard, Toews, and Makar are protected no matter what. SEA can take their pick from Graves, Donskoi, Compher, Francouz
                                                                      Apr 27 at 9:07
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                                                                      Quoting: FullSend
                                                                      Yeah Wennberg, for some reason I thought he was playing really well to give up on as a solid 3C, but yeah okay Wennberg or Driedger it is??


                                                                      Wennberg is a pending UFA and got pushed to the 3rd line when they acquired Bennett so yeah he wont be protected
                                                                      Apr 27 at 9:08
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                                                                      Quoting: FullSend
                                                                      If the buyout phase begins before the expansion draft then sure.. you can’t just buy a player out mid season, there’s a timeframe in the offseason, it usually starts right before NHL free agency, but if that’s not the case then it all rest on Johnson waiving and that’s that.


                                                                      According to capfriendly its 48 hours after the stanley cup final.
                                                                      Apr 27 at 9:13
                                                                      #38
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                                                                      Quoting: JeffW
                                                                      According to capfriendly its 48 hours after the stanley cup final.


                                                                      Quoting: moli92
                                                                      Seattle can take Graves and move on. Avs arent paying anything for no reason. EJ can either waive or be bought out, meaning Girard, Toews, and Makar are protected no matter what. SEA can take their pick from Graves, Donskoi, Compher, Francouz



                                                                      All I needed was some evidence and a reasonable explanation so yeah I’ll go change it, thanks for being reasonable Avs fans

                                                                      Also I do believe EJ also said he would waive as well
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                                                                      Apr 27 at 9:23
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                                                                      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                                      Wennberg is a pending UFA and got pushed to the 3rd line when they acquired Bennett so yeah he wont be protected

                                                                      Alright thanks, I changed it to them selecting Acciari, I’m still skeptical about Holl though, that’s the only thing
                                                                      Apr 27 at 10:13
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                                                                      Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
                                                                      Remember the Vegas pick swap worked because once Enstrom waived his NMC and was exposed, there wasn't much to pick from the available Jets roster (Ehlers, Connor, Morrissey, Laine all on their ELCs). So Vegas' choice was maybe 1-2 years of Enstrom or doing a 1st round pick swap plus a 3rd. This time Seattle can actually select a good long-term asset in Appleton so the protection price goes up to say a 1st (which the Jets shouldn't do).

                                                                      This is what Vegas had to choose from (ouch):
                                                                      Marko Dano (F)
                                                                      Quinton Howden (F)
                                                                      Scott Kosmachuk (F)
                                                                      Tomas Kubalik (F)
                                                                      JC Lipon (F)
                                                                      Shawn Matthias (F)
                                                                      Ryan Olsen (F)
                                                                      Anthony Peluso (F)
                                                                      Chris Thorburn (F)
                                                                      Ben Chiarot (D)
                                                                      Toby Enstrom (D)
                                                                      Brenden Kichton (D)
                                                                      Julian Melchiori (D)
                                                                      Paul Postma (D)
                                                                      Brian Strait (D)
                                                                      Mark Stuart (D)
                                                                      Michael Hutchinson (G)
                                                                      Ondrej Pavelec (G)

                                                                      I still don’t understand the love of enstrom, Suzuki was the draftpick the Jets gave up, that probably changes a few things going forward, if Jets go to the podium with that name.
                                                                      Apr 27 at 10:28
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                                                                      Quoting: Birtle34
                                                                      I still don’t understand the love of enstrom, Suzuki was the draftpick the Jets gave up, that probably changes a few things going forward, if Jets go to the podium with that name.


                                                                      I guess it must have been part of the unwritten arrangement he had when he waived his NMC.

                                                                      So the trade ended up being (from a Jets perspective:
                                                                      Suzuki & Vukojevic (just signed his ELC with NJD) for Enstrom & Vesalainen
                                                                      Apr 27 at 10:35
                                                                      #42
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                                                                      Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
                                                                      I guess it must have been part of the unwritten arrangement he had when he waived his NMC.

                                                                      So the trade ended up being (from a Jets perspective:
                                                                      Suzuki & Vukojevic (just signed his ELC with NJD) for Enstrom & Vesalainen

                                                                      Having Suzuki may have slowed down the laine deal or changed it a tad, kind of cool to look back at some of the franchise changers
                                                                      Apr 27 at 10:38
                                                                      #43
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                                                                      Quoting: Birtle34
                                                                      Having Suzuki may have slowed down the laine deal or changed it a tad, kind of cool to look back at some of the franchise changers


                                                                      You should see the other side of that trade tree... it involves Vegas, NJ, San Jose, Montreal, Philadelphia, LA and Columbus. Insane
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                                                                      Apr 27 at 11:01
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                                                                      if that takes to get rid of neal, the oilers take that
                                                                      Apr 28 at 12:43
                                                                      #45
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                                                                      Quoting: FullSend
                                                                      Do the Seattle Expansion draft
                                                                      So Hyman gone??


                                                                      Hyman is a FA, risky play to take him in the draft, I think they Go after Dermott, Unsigned but an RFA, and he could blossom in to a top 4, He can't really do that right now in TO
                                                                       
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