SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

TRADING JACK EICHEL TO LA

Created by: BOSSMAN
Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 28, 2021
Published: Apr. 28, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
2$1,600,000
2$1,250,000
1$925,000
2$1,000,000
2$3,750,000
1$900,000
Trades
1.
BUF
    EXPANSION
    2.
    BUF
    1. Björnfot, Tobias
    2. Kaliyev, Arthur
    3. Vilardi, Gabriel
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (STL)
    5. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
    3.
    NYR
    1. Thompson, Tage
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the STL
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the BUF
    2022
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    2023
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$52,121,417$113,916$1,975,000$29,378,583
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,600,000$1,600,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,600,000$1,600,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $3,050,000$3,050,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $2,200,000$2,200,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$62,500$62K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $2,425,000$2,425,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $3,875,000$3,875,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $900,000$900,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $925,000$925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $889,166$889,166
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1

    Embed Code

    • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
    • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

    Text-Embed

    Click to Highlight
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.
    #1
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2016
    Posts: 14,449
    Likes: 6,101
    Reasonable value, but I don't think the Kings would be willing to give up Bjornfot. Swap him out for someone not named Byfield, Turcotte, Anderson, or Petersen and I think the Kings would go for it.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 1:23 p.m.
    #2
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jan. 2017
    Posts: 6,470
    Likes: 1,982
    Buffalo would want one of Turcotte or Byfield. Based on LA loving Byfield (and Kaliyev), I dont see Byfield being traded or Kaliyev. They're also short on defensive prospects so Bjornfoot probably isn't likely.

    Turcotte, JAD, Durzi, 2021 first, and 3rd.
    OldNYIfan liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 1:24 p.m.
    #3
    Thread Starter
    BOSSMAN
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2019
    Posts: 123
    Likes: 17
    Sabres are trading a top 5 Center in the NHL, if the kings aren't willing to give up what I said, then they should fold.
    Riley816 liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
    #4
    cautious optimism
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2021
    Posts: 3,004
    Likes: 5,753
    I wouldn't see BUF trading Jack without either Byfield or Turcotte in the return.
    Xqb15a liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.
    #5
    cautious optimism
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2021
    Posts: 3,004
    Likes: 5,753
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Sabres are trading a top 5 Center in the NHL, if the kings aren't willing to give up what I said, then they should fold.


    The problem isn't that LA wouldn't take this, because they sure as hell would. The problem is what's going to Buffalo inn exchange for Eichel.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.
    #6
    Leafs Sufferer
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jul. 2019
    Posts: 4,073
    Likes: 3,511
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Sabres are trading a top 5 Center in the NHL, if the kings aren't willing to give up what I said, then they should fold.


    I'm sure they would fold pretty quickly. It's smarter on their part to let their young guys develop.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
    #7
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jan. 2020
    Posts: 8,370
    Likes: 2,275
    When did Eichel's value drop so much? Trading a franchise centre and not even getting the other team's top prospect or even 2nd top prospect...
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 1:58 p.m.
    #8
    Sabres fan
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jul. 2020
    Posts: 4,719
    Likes: 2,953
    Quoting: Chopper02
    Buffalo would want one of Turcotte or Byfield. Based on LA loving Byfield (and Kaliyev), I dont see Byfield being traded or Kaliyev. They're also short on defensive prospects so Bjornfoot probably isn't likely.

    Turcotte, JAD, Durzi, 2021 first, and 3rd.


    In any trade you have to give in order to get. Buffalo is still in position to demand what they want in return for Jack Eichel if he is being traded. You either meet the demand or he does not get moved. Currently Jack Eichel has not demanded a trade, and even if he were going to he would have to know that it will take time for any deal to materialize. I wouldn’t expect him to be traded before the start of the next season, and if the team actually plays well why would he want to leave?
    Riley816 liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.
    #9
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 5,062
    Likes: 2,008
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Sabres are trading a top 5 Center in the NHL, if the kings aren't willing to give up what I said, then they should fold.


    If the Sabres are willing to take Berglund, Sobotka, a 1st and 2nd for ROR they should fold.

    Top 5 center with 0 playoff games. If Sabres are willing to trade him, not many top 5 centers get traded, not sure I'm willing to unload top prospects for him...
    Timmah007 liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
    #10
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jan. 2017
    Posts: 6,470
    Likes: 1,982
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Sabres are trading a top 5 Center in the NHL, if the kings aren't willing to give up what I said, then they should fold.


    He's not a top 5 center.
    McDavid, Draisatl, Crosby, Matthews, Bergeron, MacKinnon, Barkov and you could even make an argument for O'Reilly are better than him. When Eichel is on his game, he's fantastic. He's not always on his game though.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
    #11
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 5,062
    Likes: 2,008
    Quoting: Tjm220
    In any trade you have to give in order to get. Buffalo is still in position to demand what they want in return for Jack Eichel if he is being traded. You either meet the demand or he does not get moved. Currently Jack Eichel has not demanded a trade, and even if he were going to he would have to know that it will take time for any deal to materialize. I wouldn’t expect him to be traded before the start of the next season, and if the team actually plays well why would he want to leave?


    Perfectly said. At a certain level a team is better off with top prospects on elcs than one guy. LAK has a level. Once the Sabres ask for more they walk away....
    Timmah007 and OldNYIfan liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
    #12
    Sabres fan
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jul. 2020
    Posts: 4,719
    Likes: 2,953
    Quoting: Chopper02
    He's not a top 5 center.
    McDavid, Draisatl, Crosby, Matthews, Bergeron, MacKinnon, Barkov and you could even make an argument for O'Reilly are better than him. When Eichel is on his game, he's fantastic. He's not always on his game though.

    You could argue he’s not top 5, but I don’t think you would say he’s not top 10. Bergeron is getting older, and is closer to retirement than his prime. Jack Eichel is in his prime right now when he is healthy. Matthews has inflated numbers this season playing against decidedly lesser competition, I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s better than Jack Eichel when he’s healthy. Jack Eichel was in the top 10 of MVP voting last season, and I thought a defenseman I was also on that list.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:22 p.m.
    #13
    Thread Starter
    BOSSMAN
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2019
    Posts: 123
    Likes: 17
    Quoting: Chopper02
    He's not a top 5 center.
    McDavid, Draisatl, Crosby, Matthews, Bergeron, MacKinnon, Barkov and you could even make an argument for O'Reilly are better than him. When Eichel is on his game, he's fantastic. He's not always on his game though.


    Eichel is better than Bergeron and barkov. Eichel was on pace for 40 Goals and 95 points last year had COVID not shortened the season, wake up. Eichel is always on his game when HEALTHY. Smarten up kid don't make me put you on blast again
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
    #14
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2020
    Posts: 8,634
    Likes: 3,931
    That still seems like a lot for a guy with 0 playoff games 0 personal awards 0 accomplishments at the nhl level. I get it he’s good but people gotta stop calling him a top centre in the league until he actually accomplished something to justify it. A good player can look like a superstar when he’s surrounded by garbage cans that doesn’t make him a superstar.
    OldNYIfan and Mike_Gartner liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:26 p.m.
    #15
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Aug. 2019
    Posts: 1,549
    Likes: 838
    This is probably the type of package that you could get Eichel out of Buffalo for. From LAs perspective though, would rather take the balanced approach that 3 high end prospects and a 1st round pick help your team more than 1 player.
    OldNYIfan liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:34 p.m.
    #16
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jan. 2017
    Posts: 6,470
    Likes: 1,982
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Eichel is better than Bergeron and barkov. Eichel was on pace for 40 Goals and 95 points last year had COVID not shortened the season, wake up. Eichel is always on his game when HEALTHY. Smarten up kid don't make me put you on blast again


    Lol give me Barkov over Eichel any day and twice on Sunday. Again, Eichel when on his game is very good. He's not always on his game though. There are games he just doesn't care(and why wouldn't he, he plays for Buffalo). Bergeron is also a much more complete player. If not for his age, I'd take Bergeron if I were building a team. I like Eichel, but let's no kid ourselves. He's not top 5.
    OldNYIfan and Mike_Gartner liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:37 p.m.
    #17
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2021
    Posts: 348
    Likes: 155
    Replace vilardi with Turcotte and i think its fair
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 2:42 p.m.
    #18
    Brock On Dudes
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2019
    Posts: 1,801
    Likes: 521
    Byfield
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
    #19
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Aug. 2020
    Posts: 11,248
    Likes: 8,893
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Sabres are trading a top 5 Center in the NHL, if the kings aren't willing to give up what I said, then they should fold.


    He’s good top 10 not top 5. McDavid, MacKinnon and Crosby definitely better, most would take Matthews, Draisitl and Barkov ahead of him as well. But you are right about LA and for that matter the Rangers pay up or fold BUF isn’t giving any discounts on an Eichel trade.
    OldNYIfan and Chopper02 liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.
    #20
    torontos finest
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jul. 2019
    Posts: 9,546
    Likes: 11,169
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    buddy go get your head checked, your dumber than a bag of hammers. barkov has been in the league longer and hasnt done anything, better overall player my ass. Hes **** and your stupid


    great argument

    Barkov actually has hardware.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 3:27 p.m.
    #21
    Thread Starter
    BOSSMAN
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2019
    Posts: 123
    Likes: 17
    Quoting: Xqb15a
    He’s good top 10 not top 5. McDavid, MacKinnon and Crosby definitely better, most would take Matthews, Draisitl and Barkov ahead of him as well. But you are right about LA and for that matter the Rangers pay up or fold BUF isn’t giving any discounts on an Eichel trade.


    Draisiatl splits time at Center and on McDavids wing. The correct order is:

    McDavid
    Crosby
    Mackinnon
    Matthews
    Eichel
    Ten other players
    Then Barkov
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 3:33 p.m.
    #22
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Aug. 2020
    Posts: 11,248
    Likes: 8,893
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Draisiatl splits time at Center and on McDavids wing. The correct order is:

    McDavid
    Crosby
    Mackinnon
    Matthews
    Eichel
    Ten other players
    Then Barkov


    That’s your opinion, shot share and metrics say different. Like for me I’m taking MacKinnon over McDavid solely because of how MacKinnon has dominated in the playoffs. Doesn’t make me right, doesn’t make me wrong but people do agree with me.
    OldNYIfan and Chopper02 liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.
    #23
    Once a Kings Fan Too
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2018
    Posts: 39,662
    Likes: 24,576
    @Chopper02's offer is the maximum that LA should offer (except that I would substitute LD Kale Clague for Durzi and make the third our 2022). Otherwise, as noted by several commenters, the Kings are better off keeping their multiplicity of prospects.
    Chopper02 liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
    #24
    Brace for the Storm
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 12,840
    Likes: 6,647
    Quoting: BOSSMAN
    Sabres are trading a top 5 Center in the NHL, if the kings aren't willing to give up what I said, then they should fold.


    Except Eichel is nowhere near a top 5 center
    OldNYIfan and Chopper02 liked this.
    Apr. 28, 2021 at 4:26 p.m.
    #25
    Once a Kings Fan Too
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2018
    Posts: 39,662
    Likes: 24,576
    Quoting: Chopper02
    He's not a top 5 center.
    McDavid, Draisatl, Crosby, Matthews, Bergeron, MacKinnon, Barkov and you could even make an argument for O'Reilly are better than him. When Eichel is on his game, he's fantastic. He's not always on his game though.


    I'd actually add Brayden Point to that list.
     
    Reply
    To create a post please Login or Register
    Question:
    Options:
    Add Option
    Submit Poll