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Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 29, 2021
Published: Apr. 29, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
1$750,000
3$1,533,333
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
1$2,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$2,000,000
2$800,000
1$850,000
1$1,350,000
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Guhle, Kaiden
  3. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
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MTL urgently needs an elite scoring/offensive talent. Garland is one of few guys perhaps on the market that solves the need. The cost might be a bit steep, but Arizona shouldn't move Conor unless the return is enticing. Other teams will offer value, so its gonna have to be a solid return greater than the value of the player. Bergevin is typically willing to not shortcut value on players he likes.
2.
ARI
  1. Virtanen, Jake
Additional Details:
somewhat mirrors a gaudette/highmore type move. i do like pitlick a lot as a flyers/nucks fan
3.
ARI
  1. De Haan, Calvin
  2. Kämpf, David [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
bit of expansion protection but hole filling for ARZ. Chicago has more important guys to use in these roster spots. somewhat mimics what happened with Maatta
CHI
4.
ARI
SEA
  1. Hill, Adin [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
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24$81,500,000$70,636,950$196,951$500,000$10,863,050
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 4
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$7,150,000$7,150,000
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$5,850,000$5,850,000
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UFA - 5
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$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
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UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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UFA - 1
$1,533,333$1,533,333
C
UFA - 2
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
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RFA - 3
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,350,000$1,350,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 2
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G
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Apr. 29, 2021 at 5:20 a.m.
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While I agree with your description Guhle is a stud and going nowhere.
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Apr. 29, 2021 at 7:37 a.m.
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I really like Graland hes a good player but he has not out Preformed Drouin over the years....he has 10G this year so saying hes elite on offense is a bit of a much(has good potential for sure), yes he has 32pts and more than a lot of their guys right now but he isn't worth adding a 1st and one of their best LD prospects. MTL says no. Would say more Drouin and a 2nd or a lower end prospect.
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Apr. 29, 2021 at 7:46 a.m.
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I agree with @Habs4ever and @thelastofus: I don't think Guhle is going anywhere. I can see a world where Drouin requests a trade (This goes without saying that I hope that he gets through whatever he needs to get through and that he is okay.)
Apr. 29, 2021 at 8:55 a.m.
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I agree with @Habs4ever and @thelastofus: I don't think Guhle is going anywhere. I can see a world where Drouin requests a trade (This goes without saying that I hope that he gets through whatever he needs to get through and that he is okay.)


I said two years ago Drouin would not do well in a Canadian and especially Quebec market. I also posted about it a month ago and gave the reasons why. I went into detail about it and people laughed at me. Then I posted it on Reddit and explained why and people not only laughed at me, they blocked me and banned me. It is hard for me to try and be normal on these types of sites when I have worked for the past 28 years on mental life coaching, I worked with Jonathan in 2013 when he was with the Mooseheads. I photocopied the cheque I was paid by the team to work with their athletes (off ice). So I knew Dru would not do well in that market. I actually reached out to him yesterday offering my confidential services to him. I will not say nor comment anymore about this, but I do know and recognize the patterns of people and this includes athletes as they are people first, hockey players second.
Apr. 29, 2021 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Habs4ever
I said two years ago Drouin would not do well in a Canadian and especially Quebec market. I also posted about it a month ago and gave the reasons why. I went into detail about it and people laughed at me. Then I posted it on Reddit and explained why and people not only laughed at me, they blocked me and banned me. It is hard for me to try and be normal on these types of sites when I have worked for the past 28 years on mental life coaching, I worked with Jonathan in 2013 when he was with the Mooseheads. I photocopied the cheque I was paid by the team to work with their athletes (off ice). So I knew Dru would not do well in that market. I actually reached out to him yesterday offering my confidential services to him. I will not say nor comment anymore about this, but I do know and recognize the patterns of people and this includes athletes as they are people first, hockey players second.


Oh I agree with you, I didn't like the trade to begin with (didn't like his attitude back then) but also I'm one of the rare ones who very rarely wants an actual Quebecor to play here, the media and fans rip them apart so horrendously....they think because they're from here that they should be the Habs Savior but that's not a reality lol I hope he get through whatever it is he needs to get through, and I do hope he gets traded somewhere for a fresh start.
Apr. 29, 2021 at 9:43 a.m.
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Oh I agree with you, I didn't like the trade to begin with (didn't like his attitude back then) but also I'm one of the rare ones who very rarely wants an actual Quebecor to play here, the media and fans rip them apart so horrendously....they think because they're from here that they should be the Habs Savior but that's not a reality lol I hope he get through whatever it is he needs to get through, and I do hope he gets traded somewhere for a fresh start.


In 2001, I was sitting inside the Habs dressing room and I was waiting to go for lunch. The team was outside Quebec on away games. I saw a man tell his son to pretend he had cancer so they could get an empty roll of tape. I was speaking in English but understand perfect French and the man was speaking in French to his 10 year old kid. That is when it really hit me, how worshipped these players are and how unhealthy and unrealistic expectations are placed on the players and as you said the ones from Quebec.
Apr. 29, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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The habs might accept Garland for Drouin straight up (Arizona obviously wouldn’t). The habs aren’t trying or wanting to trade Drouin, and this is clearly a massive overpayment.

Plus we need Drouin more than Garland. We already have Gallagher, Toffoli, Anderson, and Caufield who are mainly goal scorers, so our one playmaking winger is a useful piece.
Apr. 29, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Habs4ever
I said two years ago Drouin would not do well in a Canadian and especially Quebec market. I also posted about it a month ago and gave the reasons why. I went into detail about it and people laughed at me. Then I posted it on Reddit and explained why and people not only laughed at me, they blocked me and banned me. It is hard for me to try and be normal on these types of sites when I have worked for the past 28 years on mental life coaching, I worked with Jonathan in 2013 when he was with the Mooseheads. I photocopied the cheque I was paid by the team to work with their athletes (off ice). So I knew Dru would not do well in that market. I actually reached out to him yesterday offering my confidential services to him. I will not say nor comment anymore about this, but I do know and recognize the patterns of people and this includes athletes as they are people first, hockey players second.


Quoting: Habs4ever
In 2001, I was sitting inside the Habs dressing room and I was waiting to go for lunch. The team was outside Quebec on away games. I saw a man tell his son to pretend he had cancer so they could get an empty roll of tape. I was speaking in English but understand perfect French and the man was speaking in French to his 10 year old kid. That is when it really hit me, how worshipped these players are and how unhealthy and unrealistic expectations are placed on the players and as you said the ones from Quebec.


It is just so tough to be a fracophone player in that market: the moment he was traded there, the sheer tonnage of fan expectations fell on his shoulders. People tend to forget that these guys are people, and in Jo's case, he's really just a kid. He's a 26 year old multi-millioniare. I just turned 38, and I can remember being 26 and, honestly, pretty full of it. To be him, in that market? Wow.

Fans, especially fans on this site , tend to think of players as commodities and not people. The media in Montreal and the rest of Canada do the same, and will freely discuss their performances - positively or negatively - and the players are supposed to ignore what is said. I am completely guilty of this; of reading articles on Sportsnet or The Hockey News or TSN or playing around on this site. I watch highlights and cheer or get frustrated. I will complain to my brother when my team is doing poorly (I will freely admit that I am a Canadiens fan from the Philadelphia area. He is a Capitas fan). I've imagined trading Byron because it's his fault he signed his contract (imagine someone saying that?). Honestly, I now kind of feel like crap for doing all of that. I know I am a fan, but realistically, who am I to judge someone on how they are performing? Like does anyone think that he isn't trying his hardest?? He is a human being, and his health - his mental health - is so important. I hope he gets better, and I hope that he one day gets back to the game he loves (whether it's with the Canadiens or otherwise). Everyone deserves to be happy.
Apr. 29, 2021 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Habs4ever
In 2001, I was sitting inside the Habs dressing room and I was waiting to go for lunch. The team was outside Quebec on away games. I saw a man tell his son to pretend he had cancer so they could get an empty roll of tape. I was speaking in English but understand perfect French and the man was speaking in French to his 10 year old kid. That is when it really hit me, how worshipped these players are and how unhealthy and unrealistic expectations are placed on the players and as you said the ones from Quebec.


To give a good example: Two days ago I read an article on a website called awinninghabit.com titled, "Montreal Canadiens: Jonathan Drouin, From Saviour to Scapegoat." It was a four page article! That same author just wrote an article trying to walk back what he said ("Montreal Canadiens: This is About More than Hockey"). Now, I am reading these articles, so I am guilty of giving clicks and promoting this type of writing. But I am uncomfortable with myself because of it.
Apr. 29, 2021 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Habs4ever
While I agree with your description Guhle is a stud and going nowhere.


Guhle is overrated af
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Apr. 29, 2021 at 12:18 p.m.
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To give a good example: Two days ago I read an article on a website called awinninghabit.com titled, "Montreal Canadiens: Jonathan Drouin, From Saviour to Scapegoat." It was a four page article! That same author just wrote an article trying to walk back what he said ("Montreal Canadiens: This is About More than Hockey"). Now, I am reading these articles, so I am guilty of giving clicks and promoting this type of writing. But I am uncomfortable with myself because of it.


Again this is excellent you are realizing this.
Apr. 29, 2021 at 12:20 p.m.
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Guhle is overrated af


Oh my goodness no. Coach Jacob & Joel both agree he is going to be a good one. I was speaking with Daniel ( the Rockets defensive coach) and we both see a high ceiling in him.
 
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