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Fans lets figure out the best Dumba trade together

Created by: Aero_Astro_Guy
Initial Creation Date: May 1, 2021
Published: May 1 at 4:15
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Dumba, Matt2$6,000,000
Trades
MIN
  1. Allison, Wade
  2. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Dumba, Matt
MIN
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. 2023 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Reichel, Lukas [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 1st round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Dumba, Matt
MIN
  1. Voronkov, Dmitri [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 1st round pick (TBL)
CBJ
  1. Dumba, Matt
MIN
  1. Marchenko, Kirill [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (TBL)
CBJ
  1. Dumba, Matt
MIN
  1. Hayton, Barrett
ARI
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (TBL)
MIN
  1. Lind, Kole [RFA Rights]
  2. Roussel, Antoine
  3. 2022 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Dumba, Matt
MIN
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
Buried
  • Cam Talbot: $2,541,667 ($3,666,667)
  • Carson Soucy: $1,625,000 ($2,750,000)
  • Zach Parise: $6,413,461 ($7,538,461)
  • Jonas Brodin: $4,875,000 ($6,000,000)
  • Jared Spurgeon: $6,450,000 ($7,575,000)
  • Ryan Suter: $6,413,461 ($7,538,461)
  • Ryan Hartman: $575,000 ($1,700,000)
  • Matt Dumba: $4,875,000 ($6,000,000)
  • Victor Rask: $2,875,000 ($4,000,000)
  • Marcus Foligno: $1,975,000 ($3,100,000)
  • Mats Zuccarello: $4,875,000 ($6,000,000)
  • Jordan Greenway: $975,000 ($2,100,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
MIN
PIT
PHI
CHI
TBL
NYI
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2022
MIN
VAN
MIN
CBJ
NJD
MIN
MIN
MIN
SJS
MIN
2023
MIN
PHI
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
5$81,500,000$51,076,089$0$2,575,000$30,423,911
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NJD
Boqvist, Jesper
$925,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Allison, Wade
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Frost, Morgan
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
ARI
Hayton, Barrett
$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
VAN
Roussel, Antoine
$3,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1

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May 1 at 4:31
#1
aeroastro.MN
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Tell me what is wrong and I gonna make changes.
May 1 at 4:37
#2
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Cap space isn't really taken into account that much here
May 1 at 4:43
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aeroastro.MN
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Cap space isn't really taken into account that much here


I count on the SED losses. Except for VAN, whose fans told me they cannot get out of the cap issue. If there are any concerns, type in and I will fix it.
May 1 at 4:45
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
I count on the SED losses.


Well this trade would probably be taking place prior to ED so that Minny can protect Greenway and Foligno no?
May 1 at 4:48
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aeroastro.MN
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Well this trade would probably be taking place prior to ED so that Minny can protect Greenway and Foligno no?


Yeah, but you dont need to care about cap until the season starts, right?
May 1 at 4:59
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Well this trade would probably be taking place prior to ED so that Minny can protect Greenway and Foligno no?


I deleted the PIT trade. We could add Braun from PHI if that is an issue.
May 1 at 5:10
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
I deleted the PIT trade. We could add Braun from PHI if that is an issue.


Philly would probably be interested in Dumba but they wont be exposing any of Prov, Sanheim, or Myers to do it.
May 1 at 5:13
#8
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aeroastro.MN
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Philly would probably be interested in Dumba but they wont be exposing any of Prov, Sanheim, or Myers to do it.


They could go 8/1. If they expose Voracek, he is gonna be taken for sure.
May 1 at 5:20
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
They could go 8/1. If they expose Voracek, he is gonna be taken for sure.


Doubt it, they will take JVR if exposed
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May 1 at 5:39
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For Buff: take out Ruotsolainen. Asplund, Thompson, Bostons 2nd round pick, 5th round pick for Dumba and a 3rd
May 1 at 5:50
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
For Buff: take out Ruotsolainen. Asplund, Thompson, Bostons 2nd round pick, 5th round pick for Dumba and a 3rd


I cant make it work. Maybe, there is another proposal that would involve a 1st(for Buffalo, its own second of this year) and a good prospect?
May 1 at 7:16
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For philly the best trade would be the one with Frost because we have so many center prospects so it wouldn't hurt to lose one.
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May 1 at 7:23
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
I cant make it work. Maybe, there is another proposal that would involve a 1st(for Buffalo, its own second of this year) and a good prospect?


The question is more fit than value. We have defense, if we are gonna spend assets, we need forwards.
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May 1 at 7:24
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Don't think Buffalo is interested we have too many defensemen and not enough scoring already
May 1 at 7:25
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Edited May 1 at 7:47
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Don't think Buffalo is interested we have too many defensemen and not enough scoring already


Sure, deleted.
May 1 at 8:52
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What about the Islanders first + Boqvist?
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May 1 at 8:55
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Quoting: Devil1122
What about the Islanders first + Boqvist?


Maybe a bit low. But only a little bit. Are you sure you don t wanna give up 2023 first by any means? If so, I will redo the trade. Also, what do you think about Zacha?
May 1 at 9:38
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
Maybe a bit low. But only a little bit. Are you sure you don t wanna give up 2023 first by any means? If so, I will redo the trade. Also, what do you think about Zacha?


I would like to keep Zacha. He's having a great year and is finally figuring it out. Im not sure if giving up 2023 is the best because im not sure the Devils would be good by then
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May 1 at 9:53
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Personally, I would not want to give up a first rounder for Dumba. Hasn’t been all that great since his pectoral injury nearly 3 years ago now and the combination of his regression in play and his fairly expensive contract make him a guy I honestly have little interest in.

Now, he is a physical, offensive minded defenseman who has shown the ability to play at least average defense as well, so I wouldn’t doubt that a number of actual teams would be interested, but I think Minnesota would have to A. Take money back and B. Probably accept a lower return, especially if they’re trading him prior to the expansion draft and are set on trying to protect other players
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May 1 at 10:23
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Quoting: Devil1122
I would like to keep Zacha. He's having a great year and is finally figuring it out. Im not sure if giving up 2023 is the best because im not sure the Devils would be good by then


I fixed it.
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May 1 at 10:34
#21
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I like either of the Philly trades, wouldn't be surprised to see Chuck come calling for his old draft pick. Flyers players are aware changes are coming in the off-season and my understanding is the defense really let them down this year.
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May 1 at 11:08
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
Personally, I would not want to give up a first rounder for Dumba. Hasn’t been all that great since his pectoral injury nearly 3 years ago now and the combination of his regression in play and his fairly expensive contract make him a guy I honestly have little interest in.

Now, he is a physical, offensive minded defenseman who has shown the ability to play at least average defense as well, so I wouldn’t doubt that a number of actual teams would be interested, but I think Minnesota would have to A. Take money back and B. Probably accept a lower return, especially if they’re trading him prior to the expansion draft and are set on trying to protect other players


For Chicago, it’s absolutely reasonable to want to keep your 1st. That’s just where you are as a team. But Dumba is worth a 1st plus and that’s the hard part. Finding a team that needs a top 4 RHD and is willing to part with the assists needed, that’s why the move hasn’t happened.
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May 1 at 11:21
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I know it’s a long shot but OTT is a wild card IMO. Expansion and cap is no issue and they need somebody to play next to a Chabot until the kids are ready. They also have a massive stable of picks/prospects to deal with.

But you should also look at WPG. They NEED a top 4 D. A 1st and Samberg is appealing to me, maybe another small piece. If we could weasel out Heinola, all the better. If you do post it, WPG fans get incensed you would ask a 1st for a top 4 D man.
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May 1 at 11:33
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If I were MIN,
Deals I would do: PHI (Frost), CHI, NJD
Deals I would not do: PHI (Allison), ARI, VAN and CBJ (x2)
May 1 at 11:55
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Quoting: jnowariak
I know it’s a long shot but OTT is a wild card IMO. Expansion and cap is no issue and they need somebody to play next to a Chabot until the kids are ready. They also have a massive stable of picks/prospects to deal with.

But you should also look at WPG. They NEED a top 4 D. A 1st and Samberg is appealing to me, maybe another small piece. If we could weasel out Heinola, all the better. If you do post it, WPG fans get incensed you would ask a 1st for a top 4 D man.


They told me they don't need offensive D
 
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