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Who should Flames go for in UFA

Created by: Gmonwy
Initial Creation Date: May 2, 2021
Published: May 2 at 11:30
Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Team Explanation
Defense first players is Sutter players
Buyouts
  • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
CGY
CGY
CGY
EDM
CGY
CGY
CGY
2022
CGY
CGY
FLA
CGY
TOR
CGY
CGY
CGY
2023
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
13$81,500,000$66,975,000$0$0$14,525,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
CGY
Froese, Byron
$725,000
C
UFA - 1
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
$2,425,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CGY
Giordano, Mark
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
CGY
Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 3
CGY
Tanev, Christopher
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3

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May 2 at 11:34
#1
CHI NYI
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Kyle Palmieri perhaps? They been looking for a right handed top 6 winger for what feels like forever. That said, he’s been pretty bad this season so maybe not
May 2 at 11:35
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danault as a 2C. granlund as a 2RW/3C. oleksiak on defense. hall on offense...
hall - monahan - tkachuk
JG - danault - lindholm
bread - backlund - granlund
some 4th line vets

hanifin - tanev
lexi - andersson
gio - valimaki
marky
...
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May 2 at 11:35
#3
Ragsandbluesfan
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I can see darryl's nephew
May 2 at 11:36
#4
Ragsandbluesfan
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
Kyle Palmieri perhaps? They been looking for a right handed top 6 winger for what feels like forever. That said, he’s been pretty bad this season so maybe not


I tend to take this seasons results with a grain of salt
May 2 at 11:39
#5
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Quoting: leafs_RtheBest
danault as a 2C. granlund as a 2RW/3C. oleksiak on defense. hall on offense...
hall - monahan - tkachuk
JG - danault - lindholm
bread - backlund - granlund
some 4th line vets

hanifin - tanev
lexi - andersson
gio - valimaki
marky
...


Hall isn't that good at defense
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May 2 at 11:40
#6
NHL Trade Inspector
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
Kyle Palmieri perhaps? They been looking for a right handed top 6 winger for what feels like forever. That said, he’s been pretty bad this season so maybe not


he didnt want to be traded to a canadian team so I doubt hes signing with one in FA
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May 2 at 11:46
#7
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Trade Gaudreau
Lose Backlund to Seattle
Sign Danault
Draft Kent Johnson
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May 2 at 11:47
#8
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Hall isn't that good at defense


fair point. random addition. others work though
May 2 at 11:50
#9
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Quoting: Devil1122
Trade Gaudreau
Lose Backlund to Seattle
Sign Danault
Draft Kent Johnson


What would the best Gaudreau trade be for Calgary?
May 3 at 12:38
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Palms wont sign in Canada so that no point looking at him
Hall will cost to much
I do like the idea of getting Danault

TBH I don't think much will change this offseason besides the insertion of Pelletier and Zary, I think both will be ready by next season
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May 3 at 1:51
#11
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Quoting: Gmonwy
What would the best Gaudreau trade be for Calgary?


I'm not sure but I do think if Treliving is trading one of Gaudreau or Monahan, I think it's Gaudreau.

Trading both just doesn't make sense IMO.
May 3 at 2:34
#12
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Hall isn't that good at defense


Quoting: leafs_RtheBest
fair point. random addition. others work though


I think Taylor Hall stays in Boston. He’s actually been playing really well defensively. Back checking etc. He’s finally on a team with structure and cohesion.
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May 3 at 2:35
#13
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Quoting: oneX
I'm not sure but I do think if Treliving is trading one of Gaudreau or Monahan, I think it's Gaudreau.

Trading both just doesn't make sense IMO.


I think JG goes at the TDL 2022. Maybe Monahan too. It’ll depend on what kind of season the Flames have next year.
I’m sure you guys are aware of his NTC and his 5 team trade list- just that he has one and not who is on it.
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May 3 at 2:41
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Quoting: Devil1122
Trade Gaudreau
Lose Backlund to Seattle
Sign Danault
Draft Kent Johnson


Depends on what slit the Flames are drafting in but I’d go after a one of the top RW this year. Dylan Guenther or Chaz Lucius.
I’ve been saying Danault would be a great UFA for them.
May 3 at 2:42
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Palms wont sign in Canada so that no point looking at him
Hall will cost to much
I do like the idea of getting Danault

TBH I don't think much will change this offseason besides the insertion of Pelletier and Zary, I think both will be ready by next season



I agree will all of that. I think Hall signs for decent money in Boston for like 5 years at $6 m or so.
May 3 at 2:44
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Quoting: Duggysdanglers
I agree will all of that. I think Hall signs for decent money in Boston for like 5 years at $6 m or so.


Yeah they can probably afford him with Rask's contract ending and he seems to fit well there right now. I feel like the contract will come back to bite them though when that first line eventually fades
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May 3 at 2:46
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Quoting: leafs_RtheBest
danault as a 2C. granlund as a 2RW/3C. oleksiak on defense. hall on offense...
hall - monahan - tkachuk
JG - danault - lindholm
bread - backlund - granlund
some 4th line vets

hanifin - tanev
lexi - andersson
gio - valimaki
marky
...


Quoting: leafs_RtheBest
danault as a 2C. granlund as a 2RW/3C. oleksiak on defense. hall on offense...
hall - monahan - tkachuk
JG - danault - lindholm
bread - backlund - granlund
some 4th line vets

hanifin - tanev
lexi - andersson
gio - valimaki
marky
...


I really like Oleksiak. I’d love to see him in Boston but I think the Fkames focus will be up front. They have several LD already. They could use another RD. Giordano is not playing third pair. He will be with Tanev and Hanifin and Andersson will pair up. They could use a vet RD to mentor Valimaki.
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May 3 at 2:47
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Yeah they can probably afford him with Rask's contract ending and he seems to fit well there right now. I feel like the contract will come back to bite them though when that first line eventually fades


He’s put more life into Krejci since he arrived. That line with Craig Smith has been great.
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May 3 at 2:49
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Treliving will have $14.5 m to work with and 10 roster spots to fill. I think next year will be rough.
May 3 at 2:54
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Quoting: Duggysdanglers
Treliving will have $14.5 m to work with and 10 roster spots to fill. I think next year will be rough.


Back on the topic of what Flames do, Sutters system seems to be working pretty well now that he has fully implemented it (possession stats have favoured the Flames in most of their last ~10 games). I think they just call it a bad year and reup then make a decision by the deadline. Put Pelletier on Backlunds wing and maybe Zary on Lindholms. Run Gaudreau - Monahan - Mange as the first line since it did look good when together. Having Hanifin back will help a lot and put Valimaki with Tanev to reduce Gio's ice time more.

This is all assuming Seattle takes like Kylington or someone less relevant. Overall this is what I expect not exactly what I want.
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May 3 at 4:23
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Back on the topic of what Flames do, Sutters system seems to be working pretty well now that he has fully implemented it (possession stats have favoured the Flames in most of their last ~10 games). I think they just call it a bad year and reup then make a decision by the deadline. Put Pelletier on Backlunds wing and maybe Zary on Lindholms. Run Gaudreau - Monahan - Mange as the first line since it did look good when together. Having Hanifin back will help a lot and put Valimaki with Tanev to reduce Gio's ice time more.

This is all assuming Seattle takes like Kylington or someone less relevant. Overall this is what I expect not exactly what I want.


I think Ian Cole would be a great add on a short term contract. He plays LD and RD. He could mentor Valimaki.
May 3 at 6:05
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Quoting: Duggysdanglers
I think Ian Cole would be a great add on a short term contract. He plays LD and RD. He could mentor Valimaki.


Maybe, I just think Tanev can already do that so well. he made Hughes look amazing last year so why not Valimaki too. We cant keep relying on Gio so much anyways, gotta do what Boston did with Chara and lower his 5v5 time but keep him for PK
May 3 at 6:16
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Maybe, I just think Tanev can already do that so well. he made Hughes look amazing last year so why not Valimaki too. We cant keep relying on Gio so much anyways, gotta do what Boston did with Chara and lower his 5v5 time but keep him for PK


From what I read they wanted Giordano back with Tanev because Giordano was tired of holding up Andersson.
May 3 at 6:50
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Quoting: Duggysdanglers
From what I read they wanted Giordano back with Tanev because Giordano was tired of holding up Andersson.


Thats a really weird way of putting it, no idea where you read that. The coach separated Gio and Andersson for a few reasons:
1. They did not mesh well this year
2. Gio is getting old and shouldn't be playing top minutes nearly as much
3. Hanifin and Andersson have previous success together

Regardless that has nothing to do with putting Gio on the 3rd pair next season sinve Hanifin and Ras would be the 1st pair
May 3 at 8:23
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Quoting: Gmonwy
What would the best Gaudreau trade be for Calgary?


Gaudreau (extension) for Nolan Patrick and Travis Konceny
 
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