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Best goalies in the league

Created by: deys3232
Initial Creation Date: May 3, 2021
Published: May 3 at 10:48
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Team Explanation
This is the best goalies this season sorted by GSAx (goals saved above expected)
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
16$81,500,000$48,112,499$0$3,350,000$33,387,501
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
VGK
Fleury, Marc-André
$7,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$9,500,000
G
UFA - 8
CAR
Nedeljkovic, Alex
$737,500
G
RFA - 1
NYI
Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
CAR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,125,000
G
UFA - 1
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
NSH
Saros, Juuse
$1,500,000
G
RFA - 1
VGK
Lehner, Robin
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
$1,050,000
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Smith, Mike
$1,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
FLA
Driedger, Chris
$850,000
G
UFA - 1
LAK
Petersen, Cal
$858,333
G
UFA - 2
NYI
Sorokin, Ilya
$2,000,000
G
RFA - 1

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May 3 at 10:52
#1
64 gang
Joined: Apr 2021
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Jarry?
May 3 at 10:55
#2
Thread Starter
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Quoting: lol69
Jarry?


He is 37th out of the 65 most used goalies
May 3 at 10:58
#3
PaTrIcK rOy Is CoMiN
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You mean best goalie this season.... And where the hell is Grubauer though
May 3 at 10:59
#4
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Quoting: Tarlam01
You mean best goalie this season.... And where the hell is Grubauer though


He was 16th, barely missed the cut off
May 3 at 11:13
#5
VGK AGM v4
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I'd take Ullmark rn over the bottom 6/7
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May 3 at 11:22
#6
PaTrIcK rOy Is CoMiN
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Quoting: deys3232
He was 16th, barely missed the cut off


Sorry but this list is waaaay off the chart. There are backups in it like c'mon dude.
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May 3 at 11:26
#7
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Quoting: deys3232
He was 16th, barely missed the cut off


You mean the guy that is 2nd in GAA, 10th in SV%, 2nd in Wins, 2nd in shut outs is 16th? There is something deeply flawed with that methodology then.
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May 3 at 11:44
#8
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Quoting: Xqb15a
You mean the guy that is 2nd in GAA, 10th in SV%, 2nd in Wins, 2nd in shut outs is 16th? There is something deeply flawed with that methodology then.


Maybe because his team is absolutely stacked and he has the easiest workload per game.
GAA and wins are team stats
SV% is hard to isolate
May 3 at 11:45
#9
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
I'd take Ullmark rn over the bottom 6/7


This is not an opinion, it is a stat, you cannot argue a stat
May 3 at 11:55
#10
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Quoting: deys3232
Maybe because his team is absolutely stacked and he has the easiest workload per game.
GAA and wins are team stats
SV% is hard to isolate


So you're gonna telle me Vegas, Tampa and Carolina aren't stacked teams??!! LOL

There's absolutely something wrong with your ranking
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May 3 at 11:59
#11
VGK AGM v4
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Quoting: deys3232
This is not an opinion, it is a stat, you cannot argue a stat


I missed that part👍🏼 where did you get ur numbers from? Like website wise?
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May 3 at 12:00
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
I missed that part👍🏼 where did you get ur numbers from? Like website wise?


evolving-hockey.com
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May 3 at 12:02
#13
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Quoting: Taz
So you're gonna telle me Vegas, Tampa and Carolina aren't stacked teams??!! LOL

There's absolutely something wrong with your ranking


It is not "my ranking"
It is a stat
May 3 at 12:04
#14
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Quoting: deys3232
Maybe because his team is absolutely stacked and he has the easiest workload per game.
GAA and wins are team stats
SV% is hard to isolate


This is the most tired argument ever. Everybody is better because the team is so good. So then what the fuch is MAF and Lehner doing on there? Let’s see Dubnyk .886 sv%, Hunter Miska .838, and Johansson .910, he has 26 of the Avs 33 wins. Bro your list sucks. Back ups on the list and the starting goalie on 1 of the best teams in the league 16th.
May 3 at 12:10
#15
VGK AGM v4
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Quoting: deys3232
evolving-hockey.com


Per this Website here is there top 16 minimum 18gp

1. Andrei Vasilevskiy
2. Alex Nedeljkovic
3. Marc-André Fleury
4. Connor Hellebuyck
5. Cal Petersen
6. Thatcher Demko
7. Juuse Saros
8. Igor Shesterkin
9. Chris Driedger
10. Jack Campbell
11. Ilya Sorokin
12. Mike Smith
13. Casey DeSmith
14. Jake Oettinger
15. Jake Allen
16. Tuukka Rask
May 3 at 12:11
#16
VGK AGM v4
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Quoting: Xqb15a
This is the most tired argument ever. Everybody is better because the team is so good. So then what the fuch is MAF and Lehner doing on there? Let’s see Dubnyk .886 sv%, Hunter Miska .838, and Johansson .910, he has 26 of the Avs 33 wins. Bro your list sucks. Back ups on the list and the starting goalie on 1 of the best teams in the league 16th.


xGAA or whatever is based off of quality of shot from areas of the ice, so doesn't matter how good your team is, I mean Cal peterson has a losing record and is like top 5 according to CapFriendlys list.
May 3 at 12:13
#17
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Smitty is better than most of these guys, top 5 at least
May 3 at 12:26
#18
Thread Starter
I use charts
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Quoting: Xqb15a
This is the most tired argument ever. Everybody is better because the team is so good. So then what the fuch is MAF and Lehner doing on there? Let’s see Dubnyk .886 sv%, Hunter Miska .838, and Johansson .910, he has 26 of the Avs 33 wins. Bro your list sucks. Back ups on the list and the starting goalie on 1 of the best teams in the league 16th.


Maybe it is because Miska and Dubnyk are complete trash...
Grubauer is a good goalie, no doubt, but he is not top 15 in GSAx. He would be, if he did not allow 7 goals in that one game vs the Wild
May 3 at 12:28
#19
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Per this Website here is there top 16 minimum 18gp

1. Andrei Vasilevskiy
2. Alex Nedeljkovic
3. Marc-André Fleury
4. Connor Hellebuyck
5. Cal Petersen
6. Thatcher Demko
7. Juuse Saros
8. Igor Shesterkin
9. Chris Driedger
10. Jack Campbell
11. Ilya Sorokin
12. Mike Smith
13. Casey DeSmith
14. Jake Oettinger
15. Jake Allen
16. Tuukka Rask


What stat are you looking at?
May 3 at 12:36
#20
VGK AGM v4
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Quoting: deys3232
What stat are you looking at?


Expected goals saved above average. Its interesting to see the change in the websites.
May 3 at 12:49
#21
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Expected goals saved above average. Its interesting to see the change in the websites.


Which website?
May 3 at 12:49
#22
VGK AGM v4
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Quoting: deys3232
Which website?


CapFriendly
May 3 at 2:43
#23
FoxCzarCup
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Flip these goalies and teams around and all of these fancy lists are totally different lol. They are good references, to what happened in Those situations, that's about it...
May 3 at 2:47
#24
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Quoting: DoubleADoubleK
Flip these goalies and teams around and all of these fancy lists are totally different lol. They are good references, to what happened in Those situations, that's about it...


Well yeah, no stat is perfect, and a goalie's performance is different every year
 
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