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Change the culture

Created by: brady_t12
Initial Creation Date: May 4, 2021
Published: May 4 at 7:37
Team: 2021-22 Washington Capitals
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Samsonov, Ilya3$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Ovechkin, Alex4$10,000,000
Sgarbossa, Michael2$800,000
Lundqvist, Henrik1$1,000,000
Trades
WSH
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Nylander, William
TOR
  1. Wilson, Tom
  2. Vanecek, Vitek
WSH
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Foligno, Marcus
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
MIN
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny
  2. Dillon, Brenden
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (ARI)
WSH
    Expansion
    SEA
    1. Schultz, Justin
    WSH
    1. 2021 6th round pick (ANA)
    ANA
    1. Hagelin, Carl
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (WSH)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PIT
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    ANA
    2022
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    2023
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$81,055,699$0$532,500$444,301
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    WSH
    Ovechkin, Alex
    $10,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    WSH
    Eller, Lars
    $3,500,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    Oshie, T.J.
    $5,750,000
    RW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    WSH
    Mantha, Anthony
    $5,700,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    WSH
    Bäckström, Nicklas
    $9,200,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    WSH
    Sheary, Conor
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    McMichael, Connor
    $863,333
    C
    RFA - 3
    MIN
    Foligno, Marcus
    $3,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    WSH
    Hathaway, Garnet
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    Dowd, Nic
    $750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Sprong, Daniel
    $725,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    WSH
    Fehérváry, Martin
    $791,667
    LD
    RFA - 2
    WSH
    Carlson, John
    $8,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    WSH
    Samsonov, Ilya
    $3,000,000
    G
    RFA
    WSH
    Orlov, Dmitry
    $5,100,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Dumba, Matt
    $6,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    Lundqvist, Henrik
    $1,000,000
    G
    UFA
    WSH
    Kempný, Michal
    $2,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Jensen, Nick
    $2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    WSH
    Sgarbossa, Michael
    $800,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 1
    WSH
    van Riemsdyk, Trevor
    $950,000
    RD
    UFA - 2

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    May 4 at 7:41
    #1
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    Sorry but you are selling low on Wilson right now. Nylander is off the table, you could talk to me about taking Rielly though.
    May 4 at 7:42
    #2
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    Are they trying to lose?

    Tom Wilson is one of the most valuable players in the entire league.
    May 4 at 7:42
    #3
    Hockey Fan13
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    Kuzy is a great player, but he has had some discipline issues lately and I'm not sure he is a personality the Wild should be bringing in right now. Guerin would have to do his homework.
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    May 4 at 7:50
    #4
    aeroastro.MN
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    Wild are likely passing here
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    May 4 at 7:54
    #5
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    Wild say heck no

    Character is a big big of Guerin

    Marcus foligno isn't available. Foligno isn't going anywhere. Wild didn't sign him to extension to trade him. His contract doesn't start till next year. He's a team leader. Guerin isn't trading him

    Dude nobody wants a player with crack problem, & player who doesn't show up for meetings or goes out & doesn't follow covid protocols

    How dumb to you have to be to have covid 2x including already missing 1month early in season because of covid protocols failure, & having covid

    You can keep dreaming. He's a negative. Wild don't need or want him

    Wild aren't taking a d back in any dumba trade much less a horrible d contract. Kuznetsov, & dillion aren't wanted or needed .

    Kuznetsov isn't being added to this lockeroom to ruin kaprizov or wild cap
    May 4 at 7:58
    #6
    Leafs suck
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    The leafs probably do not want Tom Wilson.

    They got rid of Kadri partly due to the amount of suspensions he had.

    So why would they want a player who has even more?

    At the very least they won't give up Nylander for him.
    May 4 at 8:00
    #7
    Joined: Jul 2016
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    No way they ever trade Wilson. Caps say no to the Wild.
    May 4 at 8:15
    #8
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    Quoting: ClockReads2113
    No way they ever trade Wilson. Caps say no to the Wild.


    You mean wild say no . Nobody wants a player like Kuznetsov whose been suspended for drug use , suspended for missing team meetings. suspended for not following covid protocols, missed one month with covid due to his own doings, & still he won't change, & is in covid protocols again
    May 4 at 10:00
    #9
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    this has always been the culture in WSH. It starts with the captain and it remains that way.
    May 4 at 10:31
    #10
    Who adds what?
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    The leafs probably do not want Tom Wilson.

    They got rid of Kadri partly due to the amount of suspensions he had.

    So why would they want a player who has even more?

    At the very least they won't give up Nylander for him.


    Hey guys. The Leafs trading Kadri had nothing to do with John Tavares, a better goal scorer, wanting to play in Toronto. It turns out it was because Kadri played with too much of an edge. I learn so much on here.
    May 4 at 10:34
    #11
    GM_MZ_WSH
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    Quoting: Byrr
    Sorry but you are selling low on Wilson right now. Nylander is off the table, you could talk to me about taking Rielly though.


    do you mean he's worth more or less rn?
    May 4 at 10:48
    #12
    GM_MZ_WSH
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    Quoting: pharrow
    this has always been the culture in WSH. It starts with the captain and it remains that way.


    bruh in the Ovechkin era, the Capitals have been one of the most successful teams. From 2010-2019 "The Capitals (465-231-0-90) recorded the most wins of any team in the 2010s and only trail the Montreal Canadiens (501-160-130-0) and the Boston Bruins (487-190-111-0) of the 1970s as the winningest franchise of any decade in NHL history. Additionally, with a .649 point percentage, the Capitals only trail the 1970s Canadiens (.712) and Bruins (.689) and the 2000s Detroit Red Wings (.682) in point percentage in a decade in NHL history." The Capitals missed the playoffs once in the 2010s. They won a Stanley Cup where he won the Conn Smythe and scored 15 goals in that run.

    He makes the players around him better and carries them on his back. From the Washington Post describing his and Alex Chiasson's relationship: “He’s helped me with my game,” Chiasson said of Ovechkin, noting his positioning on the ice and alterations he made to the length of his stick. “I know some people maybe don’t realize that, but he helped me out with my game a lot last year and maybe changed some stuff with my game that can help me on the ice. We have an awesome relationship. I wish I could have played with him longer, but you never know. Hopefully we cross paths again. It’s a special relationship that we have together. I am assuming like I said that it will last for a long time, and I am hopeful that we will cross paths again.”

    So yeah miss me with that awful take
    May 4 at 11:19
    #13
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    Quoting: GM_MZ_WSH
    bruh in the Ovechkin era, the Capitals have been one of the most successful teams. From 2010-2019 "The Capitals (465-231-0-90) recorded the most wins of any team in the 2010s and only trail the Montreal Canadiens (501-160-130-0) and the Boston Bruins (487-190-111-0) of the 1970s as the winningest franchise of any decade in NHL history. Additionally, with a .649 point percentage, the Capitals only trail the 1970s Canadiens (.712) and Bruins (.689) and the 2000s Detroit Red Wings (.682) in point percentage in a decade in NHL history." The Capitals missed the playoffs once in the 2010s. They won a Stanley Cup where he won the Conn Smythe and scored 15 goals in that run.

    He makes the players around him better and carries them on his back. From the Washington Post describing his and Alex Chiasson's relationship: “He’s helped me with my game,” Chiasson said of Ovechkin, noting his positioning on the ice and alterations he made to the length of his stick. “I know some people maybe don’t realize that, but he helped me out with my game a lot last year and maybe changed some stuff with my game that can help me on the ice. We have an awesome relationship. I wish I could have played with him longer, but you never know. Hopefully we cross paths again. It’s a special relationship that we have together. I am assuming like I said that it will last for a long time, and I am hopeful that we will cross paths again.”

    So yeah miss me with that awful take


    dude winning games and discipline are two different things. And the caps have been one undisciplined team for a very long time.
    And of course a player is going to say that. They are never going to sit around bad mouthing a player. They just don't do that.
    On top of it, that doesn't really mean anything. You can help a guy with his game and still show no leadership in actually keeping a team disciplined.
    Which is why the caps have a history of falling apart and other issues. believe me if Ov was such a great leader you think he would have explained to a guy like Wilson that doing stupid crap that leads to 40 games suspensions isn't in his best interest....but yet there you are. If anything Ov is a guy who encourages it. Which tends to be part of the problem. As it all tumbles down hill.
    May 4 at 11:28
    #14
    Leafs suck
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    Quoting: Eli
    Hey guys. The Leafs trading Kadri had nothing to do with John Tavares, a better goal scorer, wanting to play in Toronto. It turns out it was because Kadri played with too much of an edge. I learn so much on here.


    That's why I said partly. I never said it had nothing to do with Tavares.
    Of course adding Tavares was part of the reason. When you are the league's best 3c and your team has a hole at right d, obviously your name is going to come up in trade discussions.
    But Kadri was still a big part of the team, and probably was not a player they were looking to dump solely for that reason.
    But when you are suspended in consecutive years, arguably causing your team to lose their playoff rounds, that's kind of a reason for your team to trade you as well.
    If only one of those were the case, Kadri might still be a leaf, but a combination of him being a luxury, and getting back to back playoff suspensions caused him to exit Toronto.
    May 4 at 11:54
    #15
    GM_MZ_WSH
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    I still think he provides important leadership for the franchise. He has been the first to make significant changes to his game for every coach he had. He's adapted his game, gotten better at passing and playing more complete. He may not be a vocal leader but he leads by example on the ice. Not saying he's perfect, but he established a winning culture in DC via his leadership. Don't forget that after we went down 2-0 against CBJ in the first round, he and the other leaders held a players only meeting, and after that he guaranteed the Capitals would come back tied. The Caps then won 4 straight and ended up winning the Cup that year. Also I think helping a guy with his game is leadership. It's making the team better. Chaser was a 4th-liner who barely saw playing time with us yet he treated him with a ton of respect and made him a better player. Yeah, we had a lot of shortcomings. Were they all his fault? Absolutely not. Does anyone blame Yzerman for not winning until his 13th season? Does anyone blame Ray Borque for not winning until his 22nd season? No. I certainly don't think he says "hey Willy, go and take this guy out." (also he didn't even play that game after one shift which was 39 seconds because of a lingering lower body injury so yeah idk what your point there is). At this point it's on Wilson more than anyone to make that change. And fwiw I think he should have been suspended
    May 5 at 12:40
    #16
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    Quoting: BrodinCheerD
    You mean wild say no . Nobody wants a player like Kuznetsov whose been suspended for drug use , suspended for missing team meetings. suspended for not following covid protocols, missed one month with covid due to his own doings, & still he won't change, & is in covid protocols again


    And Caps don't need another offensive RHD. So neither team does though I'd bet MIN would. Putting him and Kap together would be nasty.
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    May 5 at 12:47
    #17
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    Quoting: ClockReads2113
    And Caps don't need another offensive RHD. So neither team does though I'd bet MIN would. Putting him and Kap together would be nasty.


    No Minnesota wouldn't. Character is a reason why Guerin got rid of Staal,,& wasn't interested in Sean Monahan

    Character are why ian Cole, & nick bonino were brought in , & Guerin wants to keep them

    So with Guerin still trying & doing everything to get rid of bad characters on wild, & making sure lockeroom moral us good, & players are holding each other responsible, & working hard, wild wouldn't
    May 5 at 12:50
    #18
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    Quoting: BrodinCheerD
    No Minnesota wouldn't. Character is a reason why Guerin got rid of Staal,,& wasn't interested in Sean Monahan

    Character are why ian Cole, & nick bonino were brought in , & Guerin wants to keep them

    So with Guerin still trying & doing everything to get rid of bad characters on wild, & making sure lockeroom moral us good, & players are holding each other responsible, & working hard, wild wouldn't


    MIN desperately needs a top 6 center to take that next step so I could see them doing it, but it will never happen so it's whatever.
     
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