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Created by: Wingsfan20
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2021
Published: May 5 at 3:33
Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Vrána, Jakub5$5,000,000
Hronek, Filip2$4,250,000
Rasmussen, Michael2$950,000
Bertuzzi, Tyler1$4,000,000
Svechnikov, Evgeny1$950,000
Erne, Adam2$1,250,000
Dunn, Vince2$3,000,000
Frederic, Trent2$925,000
Smith, Givani1$850,000
Lindström, Gustav1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan2$3,250,000
Ryan, Bobby1$1,000,000
Montour, Brandon4$4,000,000
Hutton, Ben1$950,000
Trades
DET
  1. Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]
STL
  1. McIsaac, Jared
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
DET
  1. Werenski, Zachary
CBJ
  1. Rasmussen, Michael
  2. Cholowski, Dennis [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (WSH)
DET
  1. Frederic, Trent [RFA Rights]
BOS
  1. 2022 5th round pick (DET)
DET
    SEA
    1. Lindström, Gustav
    Buyouts
    • Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    DET
    DET
    EDM
    DET
    VGK
    DET
    TBL
    DET
    OTT
    DET
    2022
    DET
    DET
    WSH
    DET
    DET
    COL
    VGK
    DET
    DET
    2023
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$81,500,000$68,732,223$0$2,018,750$12,767,777
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    DET
    Vrána, Jakub
    $5,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
    DET
    Larkin, Dylan
    $6,100,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Bertuzzi, Tyler
    $4,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Zadina, Filip
    $894,167
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    DET
    Fabbri, Robby
    $2,950,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Ryan, Bobby
    $1,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA
    DET
    Svechnikov, Evgeny
    $950,000
    LW
    UFA
    DET
    Veleno, Joseph
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Namestnikov, Vladislav
    $2,000,000
    RW, LW, C
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Erne, Adam
    $1,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Frederic, Trent
    $925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Pánik, Richard
    $1,375,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Smith, Givani
    $850,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Nielsen, Frans
    $5,250,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    CBJ
    Werenski, Zachary
    $5,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Hronek, Filip
    $4,250,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
    DET
    Bernier, Jonathan
    $3,250,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Dunn, Vince
    $3,000,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Seider, Moritz
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 3
    DET
    Greiss, Thomas
    $3,600,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Montour, Brandon
    $4,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    DET
    Stecher, Troy
    $1,700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    DET
    DeKeyser, Danny
    $5,000,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Hutton, Ben
    $950,000
    LD
    UFA

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    May 5 at 4:30
    #1
    mokumboi
    Joined: Apr 2019
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    If he wasn't potentially damaged goods, the Blues might be interested in that. As is, probably not.
    May 5 at 6:17
    #2
    Bruins fan
    Joined: Dec 2020
    Posts: 917
    Likes: 191
    Laughable offer for freddy
    mokumboi, Bruins1054_gmb, FourthLiner and 1 other person liked this.
    May 5 at 6:45
    #3
    The Darkest Timeline
    Joined: Feb 2018
    Posts: 8,841
    Likes: 3,967
    Sure I'll take Dunn, a deal for him is doable. Werenski would cost a ton. Frederic is fine, tough checking young guy but you can sign a guy for that role without giving up a pick. Taking advantage of teams befor the exp draft should be a priority.
    aedoran liked this.
    May 5 at 6:58
    #4
    Joined: May 2016
    Posts: 8,653
    Likes: 3,332
    Well keep Frederic if that's your offer
    May 5 at 7:43
    #5
    Joined: Sep 2020
    Posts: 423
    Likes: 102
    "Better" because you're fleecing other teams in these trades. Werenski would cost you multiple 1sts and Frederic is a former 1st rounder.
    FourthLiner and Viqsi liked this.
    May 5 at 8:37
    #6
    Joined: Apr 2021
    Posts: 5,855
    Likes: 2,039
    Edited May 5 at 9:58
    So do you know who Frederic is? Bruins took him in the first round and he’s performing well in the NHL
    FourthLiner and RedWing9119 liked this.
    May 5 at 8:43
    #7
    Joined: Jan 2017
    Posts: 13,019
    Likes: 5,155
    Lol, what a terrible offer.

    I can do it too, see.

    Counter offer: 4th for Zadina.
    FourthLiner and RedWing9119 liked this.
    May 5 at 9:56
    #8
    Banned
    Joined: Apr 2021
    Posts: 105
    Likes: 25
    Quoting: Jfstompers
    Sure I'll take Dunn, a deal for him is doable. Werenski would cost a ton. Frederic is fine, tough checking young guy but you can sign a guy for that role without giving up a pick. Taking advantage of teams befor the exp draft should be a priority.


    This isnt a proper response lmao
    it sounds like ur saying they shouldnt do that trade, that would be a steal
    May 5 at 10:31
    #9
    Joined: Feb 2016
    Posts: 3,930
    Likes: 915
    Werenski isn't available unless we're getting a bona-fide similarly-aged #1C back, and the closest Detroit has to someone like that is Larkin who obviously isn't going anywhere, so...
    May 5 at 10:32
    #10
    Joined: Dec 2017
    Posts: 12,596
    Likes: 5,782
    That isn't even close for Werenski. This is Frederic's first full season in the NHL and since he was a 1st rd pick in 2016 its to soon to trade him. The Wings are still think Cholowski can make it and he is in the same draft class. I'm not sure why you'd trade for Frederic in the first place with Bertuzzi, Zadina, Vrana, Fabbri, and even Svechnikov had more points than Frederic in half the games. Plus Berrgren had a great season in the SHL he was in the top 10 in scoring and has a very good chance making the team out of camp. Detroit also has Raymond who we probably won't see until the end of the season but it is likely Detroit resigns Ryan who also had more points is less games than Frederic as well. Now Frederic could turn in to a great player but Detroit really doesn't need another winger especially with big holes at center and LD. Fabbri at center he had his shot and he just isn't an NHL center. At this point with both shoulders repaired and McIsaac skating again I'd hold off on that trade and save the pick. Detroit won't be a playoff team next season so why give up 2 assets for one player. Thinking you can speed up a rebuild by trading multiple assets for veteran players is what puts you into the never ending rebuild. Two things Yzerman mentions in every interview he does: Patience and getting more draft picks.
    May 5 at 10:37
    #11
    The Darkest Timeline
    Joined: Feb 2018
    Posts: 8,841
    Likes: 3,967
    Quoting: FourthLiner
    This isnt a proper response lmao
    it sounds like ur saying they shouldnt do that trade, that would be a steal


    Ok they should do all of these trades but columbus and Boston decline. St louis may decline but I think its close enough that you could work something out.
    RedWing9119 liked this.
    May 5 at 12:15
    #12
    Joined: May 2016
    Posts: 328
    Likes: 81
    I am thinking that if there is mutual interest between Detroit in Werenski they are more then likely to wait for him to hit UFA in 2 years, assuming he only signs a 1 year extension with Columbus after next season. If Detroit was to trade for him it would cost far more. Probably our 2021 1st, a high end prospect not names seider or raymond and a roster player.
     
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