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Dumba

Created by: Skytown
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: May 9, 2021
Published: May 9, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Wanted to see what this would look like from the other side.

Not sure what the top line will get paid, but get them on a 4+ year deal each so they’ll be resigned once Suter and Parise are off the books.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,000,000
5$5,000,000
5$5,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
3$3,000,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Brown, Joshua
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (SJS)
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (BOS)
2.
MIN
SEA
  1. Rask, Victor
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (SJS)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$63,511,667$0$1,482,500$17,988,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167
C
RFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,650,000$3,650,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 9, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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I think this would be a good return for dumba this close to the expansion draft.
May 9, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Cannon
I think this would be a good return for dumba this close to the expansion draft.


Yup. All I know is they can’t lose him for nothing! And I don’t think they’ll want to give up picks or a player for Seattle to not take him.
May 9, 2021 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Skytown
Yup. All I know is they can’t lose him for nothing! And I don’t think they’ll want to give up picks or a player for Seattle to not take him.


He’s not getting exposed. The go 4-4-1 and expose Soucy or Greenway. Dumba fits OTT right now and his contract is good for their timeline but if Norris or Pinto isn’t part of the return, then a 2022 1st needs to be part of the deal.
May 9, 2021 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Skytown
Yup. All I know is they can’t lose him for nothing! And I don’t think they’ll want to give up picks or a player for Seattle to not take him.


Yeah it’s a crappy spot but they just waited too long. I hope they go on a run and he plays great so he can pump up his value.
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May 9, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: jnowariak
He’s not getting exposed. The go 4-4-1 and expose Soucy or Greenway. Dumba fits OTT right now and his contract is good for their timeline but if Norris or Pinto isn’t part of the return, then a 2022 1st needs to be part of the deal.


Parise, Zucc, Fiala, Eriksson Ek
Suter, Brodin, Spurgeon, Dumba
Like that?
May 9, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Skytown
Parise, Zucc, Fiala, Eriksson Ek
Suter, Brodin, Spurgeon, Dumba
Like that?


Yes, but Parise is either going to be bought out/mutual termination. He’s waive in that case and we protect Foligno with the last spot.

MIN actually has a very easy expansion conundrum unless they really, really, really like one of Soucy/Greenway/Sturm.
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May 9, 2021 at 1:38 p.m.
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Quoting: jnowariak
He’s not getting exposed. The go 4-4-1 and expose Soucy or Greenway. Dumba fits OTT right now and his contract is good for their timeline but if Norris or Pinto isn’t part of the return, then a 2022 1st needs to be part of the deal.


Dumba would be nice to have, but I can't imagine Ottawa moving any of those pieces. Josh Norris is WAY more valuable than Dumba imo, I don't think you move Pinto at least not for Dumba, and Ottawa shouldn't be trading a 1st a year in advance EVER again. I think Wild fans like the fit more than Sens fans.
May 9, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Dumba would be nice to have, but I can't imagine Ottawa moving any of those pieces. Josh Norris is WAY more valuable than Dumba imo, I don't think you move Pinto at least not for Dumba, and Ottawa shouldn't be trading a 1st a year in advance EVER again. I think Wild fans like the fit more than Sens fans.


Yes, you missed my post in the OTT side that says I doubt OTT wants to give up what MIN wants.
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May 9, 2021 at 4:03 p.m.
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I'm curious why the long-term projection says Kaprizov is a RFA at the end of 4 years, because he should be a UFA then. Either way, even if he's somehow a RFA for whatever reason, he could refuse to sign and take the 1 year offer tendered and be gone the next year. Personally I hope Guerin gets him signed for 8 so he's here through his prime.
May 9, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.
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Quoting: jnowariak
Yes, but Parise is either going to be bought out/mutual termination. He’s waive in that case and we protect Foligno with the last spot.

MIN actually has a very easy expansion conundrum unless they really, really, really like one of Soucy/Greenway/Sturm.


I'm legit curious if Parise agreeing to just allow his contract to be terminated is the same as him retiring for purpose of cap recapture. I could see him agreeing to that with how he's being used to go sign under Lou for a cheap 1 year deal to get another shot.
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May 9, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: JayTea
I'm legit curious if Parise agreeing to just allow his contract to be terminated is the same as him retiring for purpose of cap recapture. I could see him agreeing to that with how he's being used to go sign under Lou for a cheap 1 year deal to get another shot.


That’s my current understanding and it’s best case for both parties, assuming the recapture is about 5 mil. I want Parise to have the opportunity to continue playing if he can find it. It’s just not with the Wild.
May 10, 2021 at 6:40 a.m.
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Quoting: JayTea
I'm legit curious if Parise agreeing to just allow his contract to be terminated is the same as him retiring for purpose of cap recapture. I could see him agreeing to that with how he's being used to go sign under Lou for a cheap 1 year deal to get another shot.


Here's what the CBA says:

"For any period during which the Player under a Long-Term Contract is no longer playing in the League during the term of that Long-Term Contract by reason of retirement, "defection" from the NHL or otherwise (but not death) (such that he is not playing and is not receiving Salary pursuant to that Long-Term Contract), an amount attributable to that Player shall nonetheless continue to be included in his Club's Averaged Club Salary as described below."

To me, that sounds like it says if Parise continues playing, we don't have the recapture penalty because he doesn't meet both the conditions of not receiving salary from this contract and not playing.

If we look at the Mike Richards contract situation, he had his contract terminated in 2015. The Kings were charged a $1.32 million recapture penalty for each of the next 5 years. Richards signed on with Washington in January 2016 so he did play, but not immediately after the contract termination so the Kings had already been paying recapture penalties. I don't know if that had an effect on the situation or if in practice, the rule means that the player must be playing under the same contract to avoid the recapture penalty. It's an odd wording.
 
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