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Eichel for Kakko plus not stupid I promise

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Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: May 10, 2021
Published: May 10, 2021
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Disclaimer: I'm not a Rangers fan so I took rough guesses at contracts. Please do correct me. Edit; now with Lindgren contract!
Defense and exact line combinations are happy to be changed. Excellent top nine, defense focused on puck movers with the expectation that Shesterkin locks it down behind them. Palmieri can be replaced by any other RW on a one year deal who wants to score a lot and earn a big deal from the market.
Colorado doesn't want to commit big money to grubauer so lets him walk and can use their protection slot on Georgiev, and avoids losing Graves for nothing to Seattle.
Free Agent Signings
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5$4,500,000
3$3,500,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
6$6,000,000
3$3,000,000
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1$5,000,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Graves, Ryan
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
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  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Barron, Morgan
  2. Jones, Zachary
  3. Kakko, Kaapo
  4. Lundkvist, Nils [Reserve List]
  5. Strome, Ryan
  6. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
  7. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
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2021
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2022
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20$81,500,000$79,037,302$0$4,900,000$2,462,698

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Panarin, Artemi
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LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
Palmieri, Kyle
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Buchnevich, Pavel
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 4
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Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
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Chytil, Filip
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Blackwell, Colin
$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Howden, Brett
$900,000$900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Gauthier, Julien
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Lindgren, Ryan
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
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Fox, Adam
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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Shesterkin, Igor
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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Graves, Ryan
$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 2
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Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Kinkaid, Keith
$825,000$825,000
G
UFA - 1
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Miller, K'Andre
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
LD
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Hájek, Libor
$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Rooney, Kevin
$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
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Bitetto, Anthony
$737,500$737,500 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1

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May 10, 2021 at 2:02 p.m.
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DahlinOlofsson94
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Not enough value here sabres decline
May 10, 2021 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: DahlinOlofsson94
Not enough value here sabres decline


I'm sure I'm gonna get Rangers fans in here saying it's too much value so I'm gonna go ahead and say it's actually good value.

Look at karlsson trade as a comparable. Eichel has more years remaining but he's not going to fetch Lafreniere. What else do you need to see?
May 10, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: cakecakecake
I'm sure I'm gonna get Rangers fans in here saying it's too much value so I'm gonna go ahead and say it's actually good value.

Look at karlsson trade as a comparable. Eichel has more years remaining but he's not going to fetch Lafreniere. What else do you need to see?


If the rangers don't offer kakko or lafreniere they don't get Eichel and that Karlsson trade was horrible
May 10, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: DahlinOlofsson94
If the rangers don't offer kakko or lafreniere they don't get Eichel and that Karlsson trade was horrible


Buddy, I'm including kakko in the trade...

You might not like it but that's what the market said was fair.
May 10, 2021 at 2:12 p.m.
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I think if you swap Strome with Chytil then it's a good deal for both sides. Rentals like Strome in this context don't really have trade value with sellers like Buffalo.
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May 10, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
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Kakko | Shesty | 1st...
May 10, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
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I think if you swap Strome with Chytil then it's a good deal for both sides. Rentals like Strome in this context don't really have trade value with sellers like Buffalo.


Buffalo can flip Strome to another team for further assets. Obviously Chytil has more value than Strome, but I don't think it's necessary to include him. There's already one elite and two blue chip assets (pick + Lundkvist), plus Barron is no slouch. Nitpicking over Chytil doesn't matter anyway, you said Kakko is necessary and he's there so there you go. Unless LA goes hog wild, and why would they with two excellent center prospects, the Rangers don't have much competition in this bidding war.
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May 10, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
Kakko | Shesty | 1st...


McDavid, Wilson, Parise. I, too, can list players.
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May 10, 2021 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: cakecakecake
McDavid, Wilson, Parise. I, too, can list players.


If you don't want a debate then don't post.
Might as well take a screen shot of your immaculate team/trade skills and post it on your wall - enjoy!
May 10, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
If you don't want a debate then don't post.
Might as well take a screen shot of your immaculate team/trade skills and post it on your wall - enjoy!


Feel free to give constructive feedback, I'm gonna spend as much thought in my reply to you as you did in your comment. Btw Rangers aren't trading Shesterkin for Eichel and if you truly think that makes sense then I worry for your sanity when the eventual trade return comes in.
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May 10, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: cakecakecake
Feel free to give constructive feedback, I'm gonna spend as much thought in my reply to you as you did in your comment. Btw Rangers aren't trading Shesterkin for Eichel and if you truly think that makes sense then I worry for your sanity when the eventual trade return comes in.


As a GM I like to be brief - so many other more important calls to answer from GMs wanting to make a real deal...
Keep your low-ball 'offer' because there's 31 other teams in the mix; bring bring, gotta go, later skater.
May 10, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
As a GM I like to be brief - so many other more important calls to answer from GMs wanting to make a real deal...
Keep your low-ball 'offer' because there's 31 other teams in the mix; bring bring, gotta go, later skater.


Lmao there are not 31 teams in the mix for Eichel. Saying a package around Kakko that includes a great defensive prospect as well as several other good pieces isn't a real offer is just betraying your own homer goggles. Best of luck dealing with reality when the return for Eichel is less than my proposition.
May 10, 2021 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
As a GM I like to be brief - so many other more important calls to answer from GMs wanting to make a real deal...
Keep your low-ball 'offer' because there's 31 other teams in the mix; bring bring, gotta go, later skater.


Alright I added another 1st to the deal, I think the value is definitely there for the Sabres and hoping for any more is a pipe dream.
May 10, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.
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Alright I added another 1st to the deal, I think the value is definitely there for the Sabres and hoping for any more is a pipe dream.


That's great. I have no idea what will work neither does Jack.
But I do think BUFF losing him and getting futures back and the promise of brighter tomorrow's to the Mafia is not going to cut it to the people that buy expensive tickets $$$...

As I posted elsewhere:
Two things...IF Buff is going to get rid of Eichel then IMO:
a) They go for it 110% by finding a dance partner/pidgeon that'll take Skinner too, and
b) BUFF is dead last in all things "Goalie/Goals-Against/D-Fence" stat-wise so that'll likely be a major ask back of that "#1G-man Starter &/or #1/#2 D-man"...
May 10, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
That's great. I have no idea what will work neither does Jack.
But I do think BUFF losing him and getting futures back and the promise of brighter tomorrow's to the Mafia is not going to cut it to the people that buy expensive tickets $$$...

As I posted elsewhere:
Two things...IF Buff is going to get rid of Eichel then IMO:
a) They go for it 110% by finding a dance partner/pidgeon that'll take Skinner too, and
b) BUFF is dead last in all things "Goalie/Goals-Against/D-Fence" stat-wise so that'll likely be a major ask back of that "#1G-man Starter &/or #1/#2 D-man"...


No team would take Skinner and Eichel. Eichel on his own is expensive enough that fitting him is a challenge, even if he is elite, so that already cuts the list down to, like, ten teams max. Skinner kills the deal. The return on an Eichel + Skinner deal would be paltry.

You can include Georgiev in the deal, does that fix it? Pretty clear Buffalo needs a rebuild if they're giving up Eichel, so aiming for a #1 dman today makes no sense, they need futures.
May 10, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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No team would take Skinner and Eichel. Eichel on his own is expensive enough that fitting him is a challenge, even if he is elite, so that already cuts the list down to, like, ten teams max. Skinner kills the deal. The return on an Eichel + Skinner deal would be paltry.

You can include Georgiev in the deal, does that fix it? Pretty clear Buffalo needs a rebuild if they're giving up Eichel, so aiming for a #1 dman today makes no sense, they need futures.


I also included Zac Jones, making it two good defense prospects and a forward, plus Kakko of course. I feel like that'd be a great base for Buffalo to rebuild from, in addition to Dahlin and Cozens.
May 10, 2021 at 4:40 p.m.
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No team would take Skinner and Eichel. Eichel on his own is expensive enough that fitting him is a challenge, even if he is elite, so that already cuts the list down to, like, ten teams max. Skinner kills the deal. The return on an Eichel + Skinner deal would be paltry.

You can include Georgiev in the deal, does that fix it? Pretty clear Buffalo needs a rebuild if they're giving up Eichel, so aiming for a #1 dman today makes no sense, they need futures.


A G-man is likely a good addition and meets a BUFF need so it's getting closer yeah.
I don't need Strome but want US$3 per Lindgren (that you stole from Boston)?

And a rebound could happen in BUFF too! But I doubt it (they're cursed as much as w/ expansion partners VANC).
May 10, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
A G-man is likely a good addition and meets a BUFF need so it's getting closer yeah.
I don't need Strome but want US$3 per Lindgren (that you stole from Boston)?

And a rebound could happen in BUFF too! But I doubt it (they're cursed as much as w/ expansion partners VANC).


Sorry, stole from Boston??

You may not need Strome but another team could use him, flip him for another asset. He's a warm body to tide you over. He's not negative value, anyway.
May 10, 2021 at 5:27 p.m.
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Sorry, stole from Boston??

You may not need Strome but another team could use him, flip him for another asset. He's a warm body to tide you over. He's not negative value, anyway.


Nash trade...
You flip him I don't want your durty laundry.
"I'm BUFFALO mofo" - I got enough warm stuff lying around making a hum, like > 50 years of ****ty diapers to clean!
May 10, 2021 at 9:32 p.m.
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Quoting: cakecakecake
I'm sure I'm gonna get Rangers fans in here saying it's too much value so I'm gonna go ahead and say it's actually good value.

Look at karlsson trade as a comparable. Eichel has more years remaining but he's not going to fetch Lafreniere. What else do you need to see?


That guy is trolling. It is a really good value for the sabres, but the rangers would *never* do that trade. Its the same reason the Sabres are a garbage pail organization; they thought Eichel surrounded by mostly mediocre players would bring success. Those 5 players and 2 firsts will provide more value for the rangers than Eichel ever could.
May 10, 2021 at 9:35 p.m.
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No team would take Skinner and Eichel. Eichel on his own is expensive enough that fitting him is a challenge, even if he is elite, so that already cuts the list down to, like, ten teams max. Skinner kills the deal. The return on an Eichel + Skinner deal would be paltry.

You can include Georgiev in the deal, does that fix it? Pretty clear Buffalo needs a rebuild if they're giving up Eichel, so aiming for a #1 dman today makes no sense, they need futures.


Eichel + Skinner to the rangers for the 15th overall pick confirmed.
May 11, 2021 at 9:25 a.m.
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Quoting: DantheRangerMan
That guy is trolling. It is a really good value for the sabres, but the rangers would *never* do that trade. Its the same reason the Sabres are a garbage pail organization; they thought Eichel surrounded by mostly mediocre players would bring success. Those 5 players and 2 firsts will provide more value for the rangers than Eichel ever could.


Thanks for the vote of confidence. Obviously Buffalo fans would never be happy unless it's for McDavid at 50% retained, but come on. It's a blockbuster that fairly values Eichel's talents and sets the Sabres up for solid depth for years to come.
Jul. 15, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
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Quoting: DahlinOlofsson94
Not enough value here sabres decline


Do you think Tuch, Krebs, a 1st, and a 2nd are enough value? My package would've been a coup smile
 
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