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if Jones wants a trade

Created by: Jetman
Initial Creation Date: May 11, 2021
Published: May 11 at 7:06
Team: 2021-22 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
Sign Dubois for 6.5M and Jones 8.5M long term
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pionk, Neal5$6,000,000
Stanley, Logan2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Perreault, Mathieu2$1,250,000
Lewis, Trevor1$750,000
McCabe, Jake3$3,333,333
Hamonic, Travis2$2,000,000
Stastny, Paul2$3,000,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Jones, Seth
CBJ
  1. Heinola, Ville
  2. Copp, Andrew [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 1st round pick (WPG)
WPG
    SEA
    1. DeMelo, Dylan
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    WPG
    WPG
    WPG
    WPG
    2022
    WPG
    WPG
    CBJ
    WPG
    WPG
    WPG
    2023
    WPG
    WPG
    WPG
    WPG
    WPG
    WPG
    WPG
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$76,879,523$0$907,500$4,620,477
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    WPG
    Connor, Kyle
    $7,142,857
    LW
    UFA - 5
    WPG
    Scheifele, Mark
    $6,125,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    WPG
    Wheeler, Blake
    $8,250,000
    RW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    WPG
    Stastny, Paul
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA
    WPG
    Dubois, Pierre-Luc
    $5,000,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    WPG
    Ehlers, Nikolaj
    $6,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    WPG
    Vesalainen, Kristian
    $894,167
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    WPG
    Lowry, Adam
    $3,250,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    WPG
    Appleton, Mason
    $900,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    WPG
    Perreault, Mathieu
    $1,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    WPG
    Gustafsson, David
    $817,500
    C
    RFA - 1
    WPG
    Lewis, Trevor
    $750,000
    RW
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    WPG
    Morrissey, Joshua
    $6,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 7
    CBJ
    Jones, Seth
    $5,400,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    WPG
    Hellebuyck, Connor
    $6,166,666
    G
    UFA - 3
    McCabe, Jake
    $3,333,333
    LD
    UFA
    WPG
    Pionk, Neal
    $6,000,000
    RD
    RFA
    WPG
    Berdin, Mikhail
    $750,000
    G
    RFA - 2
    WPG
    Stanley, Logan
    $900,000
    LD
    RFA
    Hamonic, Travis
    $2,000,000
    RD
    UFA
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    WPG
    Niku, Sami
    $725,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    WPG
    Little, Bryan
    $5,291,667
    C, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    WPG
    Beaulieu, Nathan
    $1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    WPG
    Harkins, Jansen
    $725,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1

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    May 11 at 7:09
    #1
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    Jones has been fairly open about resigning with Columbus, he probably wont sign long term in Canada though
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    May 11 at 7:11
    #2
    SJS V4 AGM
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    Jones is the face of the franchise he's not going anywhere
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    May 11 at 7:15
    #3
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    Jackets would get more than that if they made him available, add your 1st this year and it's close
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    May 11 at 7:36
    #4
    y i k e s
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    The opinion on Jones “publicly” is mixed; but the opinion internally in Columbus is not. Face of the team, and even bigger for the team on ice.

    You’d have to pry him from them, not just toss a lowball hoping to land.
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    May 11 at 7:48
    #5
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    Will see next year at this time whos right ill update yall.
    May 11 at 7:50
    #6
    Carterman13
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    Jets would never do this. Jones is so overrated. Huge overpay. Heinola is untouchable
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    May 11 at 8:42
    #7
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Jones has been fairly open about resigning with Columbus, he probably wont sign long term in Canada though


    Very rarely does a player admit to wanting to change teams. This current edition of CBJ, I can believe Jones would welcome to play elsewhere, regardless of what he says publicly.
    CBJ have a big decision this off season. Do they trade Jones or get a pretty return or just hope he resigns?
    May 11 at 8:46
    #8
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Quoting: Carterman13
    Jets would never do this. Jones is so overrated. Huge overpay. Heinola is untouchable


    On CapFriendly for years, we read how great the CBJ Dmen are.....Jones, Werenski and Savard. Somehow the "greatness" of their play has rarely meant more than just middling success.
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    May 11 at 8:50
    #9
    MisstheWhalers
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    Quoting: yikes
    The opinion on Jones “publicly” is mixed; but the opinion internally in Columbus is not. Face of the team, and even bigger for the team on ice.

    You’d have to pry him from them, not just toss a lowball hoping to land.


    This is hardly a low ball offer.
    May 11 at 8:51
    #10
    MisstheWhalers
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    Quoting: Drw4209
    Jackets would get more than that if they made him available, add your 1st this year and it's close


    That's way too much.
    May 11 at 9:14
    #11
    y i k e s
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    This is hardly a low ball offer.


    As I said; our opinions do not matter. The Jackets would need a mighty offer if he plans on staying (which it hasn't been reported that both sides are on different pages, so we should assume both parties are on good terms). A good -> great prospect (Ive never been a huge fan on Ville but hes def high value), and a LATE 2022 first which we can presume the Jets already being good - get much better with Jones steadying out their D. So yeah Id call it a lowball... seeing as how you could probably get a handful of better offers or better singular quality.
    May 11 at 9:36
    #12
    MisstheWhalers
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    Quoting: yikes
    As I said; our opinions do not matter. The Jackets would need a mighty offer if he plans on staying (which it hasn't been reported that both sides are on different pages, so we should assume both parties are on good terms). A good -> great prospect (Ive never been a huge fan on Ville but hes def high value), and a LATE 2022 first which we can presume the Jets already being good - get much better with Jones steadying out their D. So yeah Id call it a lowball... seeing as how you could probably get a handful of better offers or better singular quality.


    Obviously our opinions don't matter but we're on here giving them.. Lol

    Disagree, it's a good offer, don't see them getting much better.
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    May 11 at 9:39
    #13
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    Far too much for one year of Jones.
    May 11 at 10:06
    #14
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    Quoting: palhal
    On CapFriendly for years, we read how great the CBJ Dmen are.....Jones, Werenski and Savard. Somehow the "greatness" of their play has rarely meant more than just middling success.

    Kind of like the Leafs' forwards in that regard, right? smile

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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    This is hardly a low ball offer.

    There's no #1C. It's a lowball offer.
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    May 11 at 10:07
    #15
    MisstheWhalers
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    Quoting: Viqsi
    Kind of like the Leafs' forwards in that regard, right? smile

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    There's no #1C. It's a lowball offer.


    No one is trading a 1C for a UFA dman.
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    May 11 at 10:21
    #16
    y i k e s
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    No one is trading a 1C for a UFA dman.


    An extension could be in place, I don't think they get a one 1c but they need better quality than this to move Jones
    May 11 at 10:28
    #17
    MisstheWhalers
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    Quoting: yikes
    An extension could be in place, I don't think they get a one 1c but they need better quality than this to move Jones


    Teams aren't selling the farm for a rental,
    an A-prospect, 1st and decent 3rd liner is a fair return for a UFA.
    Do you think they'd get Eichel for him?
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    May 11 at 10:32
    #18
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    Edited May 11 at 10:42
    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Teams aren't selling the farm for a rental,
    an A-prospect, 1st and decent 3rd liner is a fair return for a UFA.
    Do you think they'd get Eichel for him?


    Personally not really, but I also think the Sabres would want more which is why the jackets wouldnt because in the jackets eyes theyd probably be close value.

    But I also think Jones is not a good target for an Eichel sale. If Im the sabres and the dumpster fire we are; were technically restarting a rebuild if we sell Eichel (because you have a basically franchise level 1c that you need to sell). Were rebuilding a rebuilding team lol like thats brutal. So taking LA for example I would want:

    their first
    high value prospect
    change
    change

    just depends on whats involved. Like Kailyev or Turcotte (assuming Byfield is untouchable), 8th OA seems like a great starting point for Eichel

    @MisstheWhalers comment edit
    then talking cbj, Id want a prospect, first, and change so using the same team:

    The lesser of Turcotte Kailyev like IDK whos better exactly in teams eyes but the better would be for eichel and lesser for Jones
    2022 protected first top 5-10 protected
    decent prospect (not a high end guy but someone worth mentioning)
    3rd pair D?

    Im going to assume kailyev is higher value but Turcotte had a ton of hype (still does id say but not near as much as the past)

    but as I said maybe I just view Turcotte and Kailyev much higher than Ville - but i value them as basically S tier prospect whereas IMO i saw/ see Ville as a A
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    May 12 at 9:59
    #19
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    No one is trading a 1C for a UFA dman.

    So things may change around the deadline. But in the offseason, the price is #1C or no deal.
     
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