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What happens to Phil Kessel now that Rick Tocchet is no longer the Head Coach

Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes

Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2021

Published: May 13, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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When Pittsburgh was trying to trade Phil Kessel, they almost traded him to Minnesota.

However, he refused to go because Minnesota was not on his 8 team trade list.

One team that was on his 8 team trade list was Arizona.

A key reason for that was because Phil loved playing for Rick Tocchet and had a very friendly player-coach relationship dating back to their back-to-back Stanley Cup wins with the Penguins.

This article from NHL.com illustrates that there was mutual respect between Phil and Coach Tocchet:

https://www.nhl.com/news/arizona-coyotes-phil-kessel-rick-tocchet-work-toward-stanley-cup/c-308863588

However, Tocchet is now gone and Phil is still here.

According to this article, the Coyotes are looking to higher the complete bipolar opposite of Tocchet, which makes Phil's future in Arizona even more precarious:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nhl/coyotes/2021/05/10/split-arizona-coyotes-rick-tocchet-amicable-predictable/5030371001/

Elliotte Friedman even mentioned on his 31 thoughts podcast that the Coyotes are looking to trade Phil already.

https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thoughts/the-muller-report/

So what do you think happens to Phil Kessel next season now that Rick Tocchet is gone?

Let me know your thoughts and I'll see you in the comments :D

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Garland, Conor		1	$5,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Lewis, Trevor		1	$750,000
Goligoski, Alex		2	$5,800,000
Brassard, Derick		1	$1,200,000
Bunting, Michael		2	$2,950,000
Oesterle, Jordan		2	$1,600,000

Trades

1.

ARI

What would you give the Coyotes for one season of Phil Kessel at a cap hit of 6.8 million?

Assume that the Coyotes offer to pay his signing bonus.

PIT

Kessel, Phil

Additional Details:

The 8 teams included in this post are the 8 teams that I think are on Phil's 8 team trade list.

Here is what I think should factor into choosing those 8 teams:

1. A team based in the U.S.A.

2. A team based in a state with low taxes

3. A team that can score goals and score goals in bunches every game.

4. A team that is currently a Cup Contender.

5. A team that tried, but failed, to trade for Phil before he came to Arizona.

6. A team that has Brian Burke in its Front Office, who treasured Phil when they were with the Leafs and at the Olympics with Team USA :D

7. A team that has, on their roster, Phil's former teammates from when Phil won the Stanley Cup with the Penguins.

8. The team that hires Rick Tocchet to be a part of their coaching staff.

2.

ARI

?

WSH

1 guaranteed season of Phil Kessel at a cap hit of 6.8 million.

The signing bonus is paid for by the Coyotes.

3.

ARI

?

TBL

1 guaranteed season of Phil Kessel at a cap hit of 6.8 million.

The signing bonus is paid for by the Coyotes.

4.

ARI

?

FLA

1 guaranteed season of Phil Kessel at a cap hit of 6.8 million.

The signing bonus is paid for by the Coyotes.

5.

ARI

?

CAR

1 guaranteed season of Phil Kessel at a cap hit of 6.8 million.

The signing bonus is paid for by the Coyotes.

6.

ARI

?

VGK

1 guaranteed season of Phil Kessel at a cap hit of 6.8 million.

The signing bonus is paid for by the Coyotes.

7.

ARI

?

COL

1 guaranteed season of Phil Kessel at a cap hit of 6.8 million.

The signing bonus is paid for by the Coyotes.

8.

ARI

Here is some evidence that Kessel was almost traded to Minnesota, but vetoed it using his 8 team trade list:

https://www.bardown.com/the-reported-reason-why-phil-kessel-nixed-a-trade-to-the-minnesota-wild-1.1312680

I think a major reason why Kessel vetoed a trade to Minnesota was that the Wild was being grossly mismanaged by Paul Fenton at the time.

It was also unclear to Phil as to whether Minnesota would tank or whether they would consistently make the playoffs and become cup contenders.

Now that Paul Fenton is out of the picture and Bill Guerin is at the helm, the Wild have become a promising team with a very bright future.

Maybe Phil will have a change of heart about the Wild.

We'll see :)

FWIW, Paul Fenton was about to trade Jason Zucker + Viktor Rask for Phil Kessel + Jack Johnson before Phil vetoed it :(

MIN

1 guaranteed season of Phil Kessel at a cap hit of 6.8 million.

The signing bonus is paid for by the Coyotes.

9.

ARI

Expansion Draft

SEA

Hill, Adin [RFA Rights]

Buyouts

Michael Grabner: $1,258,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$60,465,284	$196,951	$2,732,500	$21,034,716

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Garland, Conor $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 5	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 4	Keller, Clayton $7,150,000$7,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 7
Bunting, Michael $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW UFA - 2	Schmaltz, Nick $5,850,000$5,850,000 RW, C UFA - 5	Pitlick, Tyler $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 1
Hayton, Barrett $894,167$894,167 ($2,150,000$2M) C, LW RFA - 1	Brassard, Derick $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Fischer, Christian $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Larsson, Johan $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Lewis, Trevor $750,000$750,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Crouse, Lawson $1,533,333$1,533,333 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Goligoski, Alex $5,800,000$5,800,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Kuemper, Darcy $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Söderström, Victor $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) RD RFA - 3	Prosvetov, Ivan $809,167$809,167 ($82,500$82K) G RFA - 1
	Lyubushkin, Ilya $1,350,000$1,350,000 RD UFA - 1
Oesterle, Jordan $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

May 13, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.

#1

GO FLAMES GO

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Who else do you think is on his No trade list?

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May 13, 2021 at 5:55 p.m.

#2

Vegan Commie Hipster

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Omg could anyone else see Phil competing in that big hot dog competition I mean you need to have the training regimen of a pro athlete for competitive eating and we all know he loves his Dawgs maybe he retires from hockey and does that?? Idk.

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May 13, 2021 at 5:55 p.m.

#3

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Phil will retire from the NHL and challenge Joey Chesnut for the hot dog eating title. He might challenge Steve Simmons to a steel cage match at WrestleMania. The Road Dog Phil Kessel. Oh you didn't know? Your dog better caaaaalllllll soooommeeeeboddddyyyyy....

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May 13, 2021 at 6:01 p.m.

#4

Vegan Commie Hipster

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Awesome thought & tact here thanks 🏆

I hope repliers provide the same 👍

I also feel that RW depth will be a key for him at this point and that he'd be very worried a few young upstarts could shift him down to 13 minutes a game with no PP time (Sprong for instance) so I'd definitely say FLA for that with Lundell being C & LW and not too much going at RW for them at the moment and a shot to be on Barkov Huberdeau wing so maybe there?

I think also he's still scared from Toronto

So a market with very low key media ✔

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May 13, 2021 at 6:02 p.m.

#5

Vegan Commie Hipster

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Quoting: Letter_Kenny

Phil will retire from the NHL and challenge Joey Chesnut for the hot dog eating title. He might challenge Steve Simmons to a steel cage match at WrestleMania. The Road Dog Phil Kessel. Oh you didn't know? Your dog better caaaaalllllll soooommeeeeboddddyyyyy....

Lol omg we posted almost the exact same thing

At the exact same time

Great minds think alike 👍

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May 13, 2021 at 6:04 p.m.

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Avalanche is interesting.

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May 13, 2021 at 6:05 p.m.

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Shibbal18

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We know that Arizona is on the list so that means there are 7 teams. Florida is the only one that looks like it could work out, or they leave him exposed to Seattle. Arizona protects Hill, they would be dumb not to

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May 13, 2021 at 6:05 p.m.

#8

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Arizona should have started their rebuild last year when Armstrong took over. It wasn't completely a useless season since their young players improved and they almost made the playoffs but they won't contend soon. So trade Kessel, Kuemper as well. Garland if it's a really good offer.

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May 13, 2021 at 6:07 p.m.

#9

Vegan Commie Hipster

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Quoting: RH1942

Avalanche is interesting.

Reckon AZ would have to retain 50% though 😕

With cash$ being tricky for them at the moment

Though I suppose that applies to lots of them ^

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May 13, 2021 at 6:08 p.m.

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Quoting: Radu47

Lol omg we posted almost the exact same thing

At the exact same time

Great minds think alike 👍

Haha 👍

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May 13, 2021 at 6:09 p.m.

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Quoting: Radu47

Reckon AZ would have to retain 50% though 😕

With cash$ being tricky for them at the moment

Though I suppose that applies to lots of them ^

Maybe. Depends on what Colorado RFAs get, who gets taken in the exp. draft, etc. But they are losing Saad's 6m hit.

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May 13, 2021 at 6:11 p.m.

#12

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Kessel for Dumba seems a natural to me (with some adjustment[s], of course). Solves the expansion-draft questions of both teams.

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May 13, 2021 at 6:12 p.m.

#13

What in tarnation

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Doesn't he have like one year left on that contract?

My guess is he's just staying and then as a free agent does something in 2022.

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May 13, 2021 at 6:27 p.m.

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With ARI money issues paying the 5M bonus is likely the problem. They would like best served by retaining half his salary and getting more value in the trade if it does happen.

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May 13, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.

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I think Phil might be a nice fit at this point, if Wild can land a center first, but only if Arizona can retain. Wild need the cap space and it wouldn't be much in actual money.

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May 13, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.

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Quoting: Shibbal18

We know that Arizona is on the list so that means there are 7 teams. Florida is the only one that looks like it could work out, or they leave him exposed to Seattle. Arizona protects Hill, they would be dumb not to

Can't players swap out the teams on their trade lists or their no-trade lists after every season?

Or do the teams on the lists stay the same from when the contract is signed to when the contract expires?

Also, I have a feeling you are a bit relieved to be reading a rare ACGM post about an NHL superstar not named Jack for a change

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May 13, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.

#17

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Hot Dog Phil back to the 6

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May 13, 2021 at 6:32 p.m.

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Quoting: sensonfire

Can't players swap out the teams on their trade lists or their no-trade lists after every season?

Or do the teams on the lists stay the same from when the contract is signed to when the contract expires?

Also, I have a feeling you are a bit relieved to be reading a rare ACGM post about an NHL superstar not named Jack for a change

Pretty sure players give an updated list when they are asked to waive

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May 13, 2021 at 6:36 p.m.

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Quoting: OutCold13

I think Phil might be a nice fit at this point, if Wild can land a center first, but only if Arizona can retain. Wild need the cap space and it wouldn't be much in actual money.

Yeah, the $10 million you're getting from Johansson, Bonino and Bjugstad exiting will be gone when you have to pay Eriksson Ek, Fiala and Kaprizov. But if you can keep it to that, you'd be okay, except that you couldn't add a center. (By the way, note that Kessel gets $5.1 million in real cash and Dumba gets $7.4 million in actual money this year, if that means anything.)

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May 13, 2021 at 6:46 p.m.

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Who adds what?

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Quoting: sensonfire

Can't players swap out the teams on their trade lists or their no-trade lists after every season?

Or do the teams on the lists stay the same from when the contract is signed to when the contract expires?

Also, I have a feeling you are a bit relieved to be reading a rare ACGM post about an NHL superstar not named Jack for a change

I've read that some can. I think with contracts the rules are whatever both parties agree to make them? But there's probably some standard language that gets cut/pasted from one to another by this point, so yeah, if some players submit a new list each summer, then that's probably the case with most guys. So that means Kessel can be traded without waiving to a different set of teams before/after some date in the summer, possibly a date close to his signing bonus date. Interesting.

As an outsider, that could make a difference to Florida, but I don't think the other teams you trade him to are dissaded by having to pay his salary. His trade value will come down to age, consistency, and team needs. Now that he's good again, I'm sure lots of teams would love to pick him up if the price is right, and even more so if he's half retained so the cap hit is small. At that point, a team only pays him 3Mx2. No big deal. But the 4M cap hit could still hurt if he struggles.

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May 13, 2021 at 6:56 p.m.

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Quoting: sensonfire

Can't players swap out the teams on their trade lists or their no-trade lists after every season?

Or do the teams on the lists stay the same from when the contract is signed to when the contract expires?

Also, I have a feeling you are a bit relieved to be reading a rare ACGM post about an NHL superstar not named Jack for a change

I think they submit it when theyre asked to be traded, but idk if they can amend it, i guess it makes more sense that they can

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May 13, 2021 at 7:28 p.m.

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Yeah, the $10 million you're getting from Johansson, Bonino and Bjugstad exiting will be gone when you have to pay Eriksson Ek, Fiala and Kaprizov. But if you can keep it to that, you'd be okay, except that you couldn't add a center. (By the way, note that Kessel gets $5.1 million in real cash and Dumba gets $7.4 million in actual money this year, if that means anything.)

Given AZ financial issues I'm guessing there will have to be considerations. You are correct on Ek, Fiala, Kaprizov eating up a lot of the money. I think Wild definitely need to add a center first. I'm going to try to make a ACGM later tonight when I get a chance and try this idea as part of it.

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May 13, 2021 at 8:55 p.m.

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One factor you forgot to add in here that I think is important is that Phil does not like to be in a bright media spotlight. That’s part of the reason why I think he might like Arizona without Tocchet. But I could see him being moved to the right team for the right price. But keep in mind he was the Coyotes top scorer this this season and despite him being old and expensive it will be a decent price to move him. I could see Minnesota or Florida being options if he decides that he wants to move on

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