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Do the Bruins have cap space for Eichel

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Team: 2021-22 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2021
Published: May 14, 2021
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Not overly concerned with the realism of the trade, add picks and prospects to the trade until it's fair value in your mind. I'm just curious to see if the cap can work. Assuming the Bruins can dump the cap of Wagner and Moore going back the other way, it looks like technically you could fit him under the cap. Still enough left over to sign a 4th liner.
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May 14, 2021 at 10:58 a.m.
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They will lose Ritchie or Lauzon to Seattle.

Just dont' re-sign Tuukka.
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May 14, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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Forgot to mention Seattle. This assumes the trade takes place before the expansion draft, in which case the Bruins protect the top line, Smith, Coyle, Eichel, Ritchie on F, and Mcavoy, Gryz, and Lauzon on D. They'd probably select Frederic or Clifton in that scenario, I'm guessing.
May 14, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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I don't think the Sabres would keep him in the division unless the offer blew them away. Boston doesn't have the pieces to blow them away.
Remember a quality over quantity approach to this trade as that's what the Sabres have said they would need.
A "swap of stars" is possible but not a picks and prospects type trade when Boston's picks and prospects aren't top tier.
That being said you're probably looking at Eichel for Pasta being the only option and I don't think Boston wants to do that.
Just not good trade partners at the end of the day.
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May 14, 2021 at 11:03 a.m.
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you're probably looking at Eichel for Pasta being the only option and I don't think Boston wants to do that.
Just not good trade partners at the end of the day.


Yeah I more or less agree (unfortunately), I was just curious to see if it was feasible numbers-wise in the first place.
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May 14, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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Sure they do but his health is such a major concern do they want to take on a 10m per with a career threatening injury?
May 14, 2021 at 11:06 a.m.
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Doesn't really matter since they dont have the assets Buffalo would want without butchering their own team
May 14, 2021 at 11:06 a.m.
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They will lose Ritchie or Lauzon to Seattle.

Just dont' re-sign Tuukka.


Bruins need rask a lot more than they need eichel.
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May 14, 2021 at 11:08 a.m.
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Sure they do but his health is such a major concern do they want to take on a 10m per with a career threatening injury?


Its not career threatening, Eichel wants to do a surgery that will allow him to play at the start of next season instead of April next year
May 14, 2021 at 11:10 a.m.
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I don't think the Sabres would keep him in the division unless the offer blew them away. Boston doesn't have the pieces to blow them away.
Remember a quality over quantity approach to this trade as that's what the Sabres have said they would need.
A "swap of stars" is possible but not a picks and prospects type trade when Boston's picks and prospects aren't top tier.
That being said you're probably looking at Eichel for Pasta being the only option and I don't think Boston wants to do that.
Just not good trade partners at the end of the day.


The Bruins will bite if they come up short again and Pastrnak doesn't have a great playoff.
May 14, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.
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Bruins need rask a lot more than they need eichel.


This year , Yes. Moving forward 100% they need Eichel more.

Easy analysis - Bergeron is out for this playoff the Bruins are done. Krejci is out for the playoffs the Bruins are 85% done. Coyle being the one who could save and I don't have a ton of confidence in that considering he couldn't handle the 3C. Studnicka is not there.

If Rask is out for playoffs, I don't think their odds change at all this year. Last year, they were done when Rask Left.

Swayman = real deal.
May 14, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.
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Its not career threatening, Eichel wants to do a surgery that will allow him to play at the start of next season instead of April next year


From what i have read that surgery is iffy to come back from which is why Buffalo did not want him to have it.
May 14, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.
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The Bruins will bite if they come up short again and Pastrnak doesn't have a great playoff.


That is a really interesting statement... This idea will be fun to work with in the drafts (since I'll get crucified for suggesting it out loud) lol
I think a trade like Eichel for Pasta and Lauzon could be considered fair... Maybe with some window dressing...
The old "Centres have more value" thing
May 14, 2021 at 11:23 a.m.
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That is a really interesting statement... This idea will be fun to work with in the drafts (since I'll get crucified for suggesting it out loud) lol
I think a trade like Eichel for Pasta and Lauzon could be considered fair... Maybe with some window dressing...
The old "Centres have more value" thing


I think it will be especially true if they can resign Hall in the 6-7m Range too. I was thinking Pastrnak and Kase, but you are probably right. It would theoretically be at a lower value for Pastrnak and I think the Bruins would need to add someone under team control past Pastrnak's contract expiration.

It would have to be done before Pastrnak's NTC kicks in.

I think the Bruins would view Marchand Bergeron and Hall and Eichel as an almost unstoppable combination.

They'd had trouble finding anyone else that could play with Bergeron and Marchand, but Smith was incredible, so I feel like they might be more open to it.
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May 14, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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Bruins should be in on him. And they wouldnt have much cap issues. Those come from your bad contracts.
May 14, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.
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From what i have read that surgery is iffy to come back from which is why Buffalo did not want him to have it.


No, the surgery just hasnt been done by an NHL player before. There is a UFC fighter who recently had a successful surgery though from what i heard Friedman say.
May 15, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
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This year , Yes. Moving forward 100% they need Eichel more.

Easy analysis - Bergeron is out for this playoff the Bruins are done. Krejci is out for the playoffs the Bruins are 85% done. Coyle being the one who could save and I don't have a ton of confidence in that considering he couldn't handle the 3C. Studnicka is not there.

If Rask is out for playoffs, I don't think their odds change at all this year. Last year, they were done when Rask Left.

Swayman = real deal.


Let’s talk after he’s played 10 games. I like him a lot, but tuukka is one of the best goalies the NHL has ever seen. Settle down.
May 16, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.
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Let’s talk after he’s played 10 games. I like him a lot, but tuukka is one of the best goalies the NHL has ever seen. Settle down.


I like Tuukka. I am not one who blames him for everything. I don't blame him for a lot, actually. I do think he is not dependable and until STL he doesn't play his best when they need him. Again, in game 7, he was not the best goalie on the ice.

"One of the best goalies the NHL has ever seen" - that guy should have a Cup (or two) where he wasn't the backup.

If this team does not win this year and comes back with Krejci, Bergeron and Coyle (studnicka) down the middle next year. All a year older. They aren't suddenly going to win with Rask. Center is their biggest issue moving forward. It's not even close.
May 16, 2021 at 10:33 p.m.
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I like Tuukka. I am not one who blames him for everything. I don't blame him for a lot, actually. I do think he is not dependable and until STL he doesn't play his best when they need him. Again, in game 7, he was not the best goalie on the ice.

"One of the best goalies the NHL has ever seen" - that guy should have a Cup (or two) where he wasn't the backup.

If this team does not win this year and comes back with Krejci, Bergeron and Coyle (studnicka) down the middle next year. All a year older. They aren't suddenly going to win with Rask. Center is their biggest issue moving forward. It's not even close.


Plenty of elite players have not managed a cup. It’s a team sport.
May 17, 2021 at 10:30 a.m.
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Plenty of elite players have not managed a cup. It’s a team sport.


Exactly my point. No need to pay a guy 7m who can't win it himself.
May 17, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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Exactly my point. No need to pay a guy 7m who can't win it himself.


There isn’t a guy in the league that can win it by himself. There is a need to pay the guys that will put the team in the best position to win. That is tuukka.
May 17, 2021 at 11:10 a.m.
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There isn’t a guy in the league that can win it by himself. There is a need to pay the guys that will put the team in the best position to win. That is tuukka.


Again, how many times do you want to go to that well without a Cup? I mean other than Vasilevskiy who would you consider Elite (that's TBD too, as he is still too young) that has won a Cup in the last decade plus? Maybe Quick. Maybe MAF - who they moved on from and Won another two.

It makes no sense to have your goalie be the highest paid player on the ice. It just doesn't.
May 17, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.
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Again, how many times do you want to go to that well without a Cup? I mean other than Vasilevskiy who would you consider Elite (that's TBD too, as he is still too young) that has won a Cup in the last decade plus? Maybe Quick. Maybe MAF - who they moved on from and Won another two.

It makes no sense to have your goalie be the highest paid player on the ice. It just doesn't.


Few things here.
1. That’s a good point that a lot of the goalies that have won a cup in the last decade kinda stink now. Quick, Binnington, Murray etc. That said, they caught lightning in a bottle and were real good for a cup run. What i want is the goalie that is most likely to be playing at an elite level for a playoff run. That’s tuukka. I mean, the guy has a .926 career playoff save percentage with a 2.21 goals against. That’s freaking awesome. For guys with 50 playoff games that save percentage is good for second in league history.
2. Tuukka hasn’t been the bruins highest paid player since i think 2014. Yawn.
3. He probably won’t get 7 million on his next deal.

If he’s healthy, there is no cogent argument for the bruins not re-signing tuukka rask.
May 17, 2021 at 1:08 p.m.
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Few things here.
1. That’s a good point that a lot of the goalies that have won a cup in the last decade kinda stink now. Quick, Binnington, Murray etc. That said, they caught lightning in a bottle and were real good for a cup run. What i want is the goalie that is most likely to be playing at an elite level for a playoff run. That’s tuukka. I mean, the guy has a .926 career playoff save percentage with a 2.21 goals against. That’s freaking awesome. For guys with 50 playoff games that save percentage is good for second in league history.
2. Tuukka hasn’t been the bruins highest paid player since i think 2014. Yawn.
3. He probably won’t get 7 million on his next deal.

If he’s healthy, there is no cogent argument for the bruins not re-signing tuukka rask.


1. The thing with Tuukka is he is good until a point. Take STL. He outplayed Binnington in all games, but 1. Game 7. You are also downplaying the system itself. Sorokin and Valarmov aren't that good, but Trotz' system is.

2. Yes, Krejci, but you should get the point, and I think you do. Look at the teams who are actually winning vs. the teams with all time greats. (MTL, Nash, NYG (Hank))

3. Hopefully.

The argument is the downgrade from Rask to Swayman (if there is one) will not be a 4-6M dollar difference. That money could be better used elsewhere such as the center position. Season after season the Bruins backup is really good too. I am not saying JAG can play back there for a whole season, but Halak could get them to the playoffs easily.

Over the past three years:
Rask 111GP .919 2.30 10SO
Halak 90 GP .918 2.40 11 SO

Bruins paid Halak 25% of what Rask Made for the exact same outcome.
May 17, 2021 at 1:15 p.m.
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Few things here.
1. That’s a good point that a lot of the goalies that have won a cup in the last decade kinda stink now. Quick, Binnington, Murray etc. That said, they caught lightning in a bottle and were real good for a cup run. What i want is the goalie that is most likely to be playing at an elite level for a playoff run. That’s tuukka. I mean, the guy has a .926 career playoff save percentage with a 2.21 goals against. That’s freaking awesome. For guys with 50 playoff games that save percentage is good for second in league history.
2. Tuukka hasn’t been the bruins highest paid player since i think 2014. Yawn.
3. He probably won’t get 7 million on his next deal.

If he’s healthy, there is no cogent argument for the bruins not re-signing tuukka rask.


Again, This year, you are correct, but if the same thing happens again this year. It's time to take a new approach and try to catch said lightning, because Rask isn't catching it, so let's try to add some more talent around the goalie.
May 17, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.
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Again, This year, you are correct, but if the same thing happens again this year. It's time to take a new approach and try to catch said lightning, because Rask isn't catching it, so let's try to add some more talent around the goalie.


Sure he has. The St. Louis year there was talk that win or lose he was getting the conn smythe. For guys with 50+ starts, he has the second highest save percentage in the playoffs....in NHL history. He’s performed. He’s given the team a chance to win. They haven’t taken it.

Moving forward without Tuukka is just illogical. There is no argument for it.
 
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