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Created by: yikes

Team: 2021-22 San Jose Sharks

Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2021

Published: May 14, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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More for discussion than argument so let’s keep it clean!

As I said the Sharks likely are only taking favourable trades (If you don’t wanna read my details lol). I doubt any major trades actually happen. But it’s worth listening on for all parties (Hertl getting a chance a cup future, Labanc as well, and the Sharks rejuvenate their future while still deploying a competitive roster; not cup winners by any means).

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Dahlén, Jonathan		2	$900,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Balcers, Rūdolfs	1	$1,250,000
Gregor, Noah	1	$1,250,000
Korenar, Josef	2	$1,250,000
Chytil, Filip	3	$3,500,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Krejci, David		1	$6,000,000

Trades

SJS

I by NO means am a expert or always right. But for those inquiring on Hertl, Labanc, Meier as primary targets for acquisitions the Sharks are not selling cheap.

THE SHARKS PLAN CURRENTLY;

- Make playoffs next season
- Acquire a solid 3C
- Acquire a legit starter or starter potential
- Shed a contract for cheap
- We have a surplus of wingers/ players who need jobs

This means quality assets that should’ve been sold if we rebuilt are going to require overpays. So whether it’s worth it or not is not what matters. What matters is for the Sharks to compete: Hertl is a X factor in that matter. Meier as well is expendable yet would be a huge piece. Labanc is the easiest trade piece but the opinion on him is mixed.

So I’m any situation the Sharks only cause to trade a key top 6 player would be an overpay or for equal to or better improvement elsewhere in their lineup.

So generally I would say most teams wouldn’t find it worth their time paying a ransom for Hertl unless he came extended and Meier likely will just cost too much.

Leaving Labanc as the best asset for price tbh.

Gregor, Balcers, Donato are likely the cheaper candidates but Gregor having the most upside and still cheap. Donato being a mixed bag and cheaper. And Balcers being good but also a mixed bag.

Leading to Gregor or Labanc being the best targets from the Sharks.

BOS

SJS

These are my favoured trades/ landing spots.

BOS

SJS

Chytil, Filip [RFA Rights]
Georgiev, Alexandar
Schneider, Braden
2021 1st round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

Top 10-15 Selection

This is an EXPENSIVE trade for the rangers, Hertl must come with an extension for this to happen and also this is an overpay imo which is the requirement as I said.

Is this worth the NYR time... imo yea and no but as I said; if the Sharks plan on competing which is legitimately their verbal plan, they won’t move their star Center for cheap.

NYR

Hertl, Tomas
2021 5th round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

I think Boston would ask on Hertl but not be worth the price versus the amount of assets they own. I find NYR asking and pitching hard for him.

SJS

Maybe I’m high on Chytil and Schneider so I may get told this is a fair offer by some but Chytil is a great young center, I love Schneider, I think Georgiev has room to grow, and 10-15 could be good if we see see Sillinger, Lambos or a guy fall from the top 10. That’s a big return.

NYR

Should the rangers do this....eh I wouldn’t be surprised but if I was a rangers fan I wouldn’t love/ like the deal.

SJS

Heponiemi, Aleksi
Levi, Devon [Reserve List]
2021 1st round pick (FLA)

FLA

Labanc, Kevin

Additional Details:

The Sharks would not sell Labanc cheap as they’re very high on him and he had a good year. We could see a more expensive fee than this tbh. Like Denisenko instead of two prospects. Which would be a scary fee for Florida.

Labanc with reliable defensive forwards to his side would allow him to play his game more and I think this is a great landing spot for him from the teams that would pitch on him.

SJS

Once again another overpay and Florida should be in on buying for a cup run. Buuuut I think a Center like Hertl, or other available top 6 centers are better trade assets.

FLA

SJS

Kent Johnson, C/W
Cole Sillinger, C
Corson Ceulemans, D

SEA

2021 1st round pick (SJS)
2021 1st round pick (NYR)
2021 1st round pick (FLA)

SJS

Seattle Selects:

GAMBRELL

SEA

Gambrell, Dylan [RFA Rights]

SJS

2021 3rd round pick (SEA)
2021 5th round pick (SEA)

Additional Details:

PLACEHOLDER TEAM ACQUIRES THESE WINGERS

SEA

Blichfeld, Joachim [RFA Rights]
Donato, Ryan [RFA Rights]

10.

SJS

A new and exciting pipeline:

Bordeleau Johnson
Schneider Merkley
Sillinger Robens
Ceulemans Hatakka Kniazev
Melnichuk Levi

Dahlen Hepo making season/ rookie debuts for us

SEA

11.

SJS

Also I’m in love with a:

Leonard - Krejci - Wiesblatt trio

I think that’s such a fun line to think of

SEA

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$61,043,696	$0	$1,707,500	$20,456,304

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $2,108,696$2,108,696 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Couture, Logan $8,000,000$8,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 6	Barabanov, Alexander $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Meier, Timo $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Chytil, Filip $3,500,000$3,500,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Chmelevski, Alexander $778,333$778,333 ($132,500$132K) C RFA - 1
Leonard, John $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) LW, RW RFA - 1	Krejci, David $6,000,000$6,000,000 C UFA	Wiesblatt, Ozzy $866,667$866,667 RW RFA - 4
Gregor, Noah $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Heponiemi, Aleksi $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, C RFA - 1	Dahlén, Jonathan $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Knyzhov, Nikolai $796,667$796,667 LD/RD UFA - 1	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	Georgiev, Alexandar $2,425,000$2,425,000 G UFA - 1
Ferraro, Mario $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) LD UFA - 1	Burns, Brent $5,280,000$5,280,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Korenar, Josef $1,250,000$1,250,000 G RFA - 1
Simek, Radim $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Merkley, Ryan $863,333$863,333 ($300,000$300K) RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard $7,000,000$7,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 5

Taxi Squad
Balcers, Rūdolfs $1,250,000$1,250,000 ($125,000$125K$125,000$125K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Chekhovich, Ivan $776,667$776,667 ($0$0$0$0) ($110,000$110K) C, LW UFA - 1
Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3
Jones, Martin $2,000,000$2,000,000 ($875,000$875K$875,000$875K) G UFA - 1

May 14, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.

NoWah49

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this is if Wilson plays his cards right imo, best case scenario

May 14, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.

yikes

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EklundCelebriniSmith

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Quoting: NoWah49

this is if Wilson plays his cards right imo, best case scenario

All of which I never see happening tho! As this is way to close to a rebuild and the Sharks said they fully plan on rostering a playoff contender. So unless they free fall and sell at TDL; we likely won’t see a sale, and likely won’t ever see giant returns. Although I believe as you said: this is the best scenario if we do somehow wind up here as Krejci and Chytil could easily fill the Hertl void. And the pure youth influx would go a long way for the future of the organization.

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May 14, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.

tryger

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The Sharks have a real challenge ahead, if the team doesn’t make the playoffs next season is a rebuild happening or is it not in the cards?

May 14, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.

yikes

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EklundCelebriniSmith

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Quoting: tryger

The Sharks have a real challenge ahead, if the team doesn’t make the playoffs next season is a rebuild happening or is it not in the cards?

If they fail AGAIN and don’t rebuild next year I fully believe there is a delusion in management and owner ship and we would be the new buffalo. That would be a monumental flaw in being a losing team 3 years in a row and doing nothing to actually improve but actually get worse and lose assets for nothing/ age and become little value.

If I ran the Sharks we woulda already started selling in 2020 and be on a path towards success in the 23-25 years full of youth.

Their current “plan” isn’t the worst in the world but it’s not the best. And if they keep the same mentality after another failed year it would be detrimental for years to come. Failed meaning even missing the playoffs by a single point or tiebreaker, anything but playoffs should result in gutting some of the team or making major changes internally.

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May 14, 2021 at 5:16 p.m.

tryger

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Quoting: yikes

If they fail AGAIN and don’t rebuild next year I fully believe there is a delusion in management and owner ship and we would be the new buffalo. That would be a monumental flaw

I sort of understand why though, the Karlsson trade was to obtain that player to push a deep playoff team over the top. I think you guys will pick a balanced approach: manage to trade down a few times and fill some prospect pool holes, buyout Jones, sign Andersen, keep Hertl, and bargain shop for one or more of: Patrick, Kotkaniemi, or Drouin. I don’t see the Kings, Ducks, or Coyotes making the playoffs barring landing a big surprise. But getting past Vegas or the oilers will be tough.

May 14, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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I find it hard to believe that the Rangers would give you all three of those players PLUS the 16th overall pick in this draft (it's locked in unless NY wins one of the two lotteries). But if you DID acquire that pick, you might want to give some consideration to Jesper Wallstedt. I can't see any team other than Calgary or Dallas ahead of you taking him, so he should still be on the board.

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May 14, 2021 at 5:41 p.m.

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EklundCelebriniSmith

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Yeah as I said; overpay otherwise it wouldn’t happen.

But if it did: I think the Sharks should grab Wallstedt within reason. Like if we pick 6th than rangers let’s say pick 16... I don’t think he’ll be there 16 but idk if picking him 6th is a good move. It’s a real tough decision. I think someone would pick him before 16; I could see Chicago, VAN, and the two you mentioned grabbing him. Maybe grab 16 and trade up if he’s not picked at 7-10.

It’s a mess really ( like my post lol ).

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May 14, 2021 at 5:49 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: yikes

Chicago has Lankinen and Vancouver has both Demko and DiPietro, so I don't see them picking Wallstedt. Calgary's pick is number 10 or 11, so they may not want to invest that high a pick on a goalie, especially in this under-scouted draft.

Some idiot so-called pundit had New Jersey taking him at #4 and then Detroit taking Sebastian Cossa at #6.

May 14, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.

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EklundCelebriniSmith

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Yeah those are odd picks, New Jersey is all in on Hughes I’d say if he’s available otherwise I like Powers (if falls) or winger for them. Detroit could take Jesper imo but I’d like to see them stack some more D up or a #1 c type draft.

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May 14, 2021 at 6:33 p.m.

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OldNYIfan

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Quoting: yikes

I think that Detroit's all over Johnson if he's still there.

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May 14, 2021 at 7:15 p.m.

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OutCold13

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I like the new found center depth. It fits Dougs quasi youth movement.
Krejci is a great add but I think he retires a Bruin, but they have forced out other aging players so maybe.
What sucks is the impending Eichel trade will probably hold up all the other trades, with GMs fearing they could be moving a piece Sabres want.

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May 14, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.

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goodfella

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Quoting: tryger

I can see the Kings getting in.

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May 14, 2021 at 7:27 p.m.

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ON3M4N

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Quoting: OutCold13

Who did Boston force out?

May 14, 2021 at 8:00 p.m.

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OutCold13

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Who did Boston force out?

Chara.

May 14, 2021 at 8:06 p.m.

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VijayPatel11

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That is pricey for Labanc lol. Would rather trade for Meier and spend more

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May 14, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.

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ON3M4N

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Quoting: OutCold13

Chara.

Didn't force him out at all lol. They offered him more money than WSH, they just wanted him to play less minutes. Chara didn't want that and left for WSH.....where he ended up playing less minutes anyways lol.

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May 14, 2021 at 11:58 p.m.

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OutCold13

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Thanks for clearing that up.

May 15, 2021 at 1:51 a.m.

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Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: yikes

Quoting: tryger

The Sharks have a real challenge ahead, if the team doesn’t make the playoffs next season is a rebuild happening or is it not in the cards?

Quoting: yikes

Sharks will never say they are in rebuild mode... yet this year they never signed any big name and in the trade deadline they sold a player and used cap space to pick up assets..... they sharks are in rebuild mode but they can’t actually say it, you just have to look at what they do and see the rebuild.

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May 15, 2021 at 1:53 a.m.

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Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: tryger

Anderson would be Jones 2.0 I’m hoping for younger like Dreidger from Florida he has more upside.

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May 15, 2021 at 1:56 a.m.

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Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: yikes

May 16, 2021 at 6:44 p.m.

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tryger

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Anderson would be Jones 2.0 I’m hoping for younger like Dreidger from Florida he has more upside.

Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Anderson would be Jones 2.0 I’m hoping for younger like Dreidger from Florida he has more upside.

Totally understandable.

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