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Two birds

Created by: Kyle_Davidson
Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: May 15, 2021
Published: May 15, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,500,000
2$1,250,000
2$1,000,000
2$2,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,000,000
3$1,650,000
3$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,250,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
13th overall

In my opinion Philly does this trade because it fills a big need at RD and they are able to upgrade at center in a Strome for Patrick swap. I get that Patrick is still young, and has potential to be a good hockey player... I don’t know if he ever reaches that potential especially with the flyers. If they wanted to trade him now they could probably get an established but younger guy like Strome. The way I see it they get the two best players in the deal right now.

In my opinion the Blackhawks do this because they have fallen out of love with Strome. I wish this weren’t the case, but it seems enevitable that he will be moved this offseason. They get another middle six option in this deal largely in return for Strome... but they probably are probably most excited with who they are going. to pick at 13. Even if this deal dosent exactly work with Philly fans I think packaging Strome with another player is the best way to move him. Murphy was/is an invaluable piece on the blue-line, but they should seriously consider moving him so they can lean into the rebuild a little bit more. (and stay out of the mushy middle that they have been in the past two years). This move frees up a roster spot on D, and depending on what they do in free agency, this could mean sink or swim for a couple of prospects. I’m not convinced they will move him, but it makes sense if they choose to rebuild properly.
PHI
  1. Murphy, Connor
  2. Strome, Dylan
  3. 2021 4th round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Murphy signs an extension 5 AAV by 6 Years

Additional Details: After the expansion draft. Both Strome and Murphy are protected.
2.
CHI
    Toews-Kane-DeBrincat-Strome-Hagel-Borgstrom-Gaudette or Nylander

    Keith-Murphy-Zadarov/Stillman
    SEA
    1. De Haan, Calvin
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
    Additional Details:
    De Hann is a good pick for a lot of reasons, but to make him an even better pick Chicago packaged their third next year so they can ensure that they don’t take Stillman/Zadarov or Nylander/Gaudette.
    3.
    CHI
    1. Bean, Jake [RFA Rights]
    2. Suzuki, Ryan
    Additional Details:
    I’ve gone after Seth Jarvis in posts before and I still think a Kubalik for Jarvis 1 for 1 is equally mutually beneficial. However, this trade will target a different prospects/players in their system.
    CAR
    1. Kalynuk, Wyatt
    2. Kubalik, Dominik ($1,850,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    Trade made after the expansion draft. Kalynuk is a good player, I think he would fit great with Carolina.
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    NMC
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    UFA - 2
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
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    RFA - 1
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    $2,625,000$2,625,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    $1,650,000$1,650,000
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    UFA - 3
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    C
    RFA - 2
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
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    UFA - 2
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    RFA - 1
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    G
    UFA - 1
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    RFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
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    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
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    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $3,900,000$3,900,000
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    UFA - 1
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    RFA - 1
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    RFA - 1

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    May 15, 2021 at 8:32 a.m.
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    That Philly trade makes quite alot of sense for both teams.
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    May 15, 2021 at 8:33 a.m.
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    Kyle from Chicago
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    Quoting: HikinenNisti
    That Philly trade makes quite alot of sense for both teams.


    I'm always happy to get positive feedback.
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    May 15, 2021 at 8:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    I'm always happy to get positive feedback.


    I like how you addressed how both Strome and Patrick need a change of scenery while making it a part of a bigger trade.
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    May 15, 2021 at 8:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    I'm always happy to get positive feedback.


    Being a hawks fan, if I’m the flyers, you still need to give Patrick more time. His upside could still be very high, it’s too early to give up. Plus to it’s too early to give up for Murphy and strome.
    That still doesn’t make them a contender plus you give up a former #2 and a first rounder for it.
    Chicago would need to give up more in my opinion.
    Oh and I would suggest Stan make that trade for next years 1st rounder.
    Like I said it still doesn’t push philly over the hump so that could be a potential good pick. I’d rather have 2 chances next season vs this season.
    May 15, 2021 at 8:53 a.m.
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    This Carolina trade is intriguing.

    Jarvis is off the table, in any deal right now short of like Eichel. He was so hot when he started in the AHL that we saw a flash of his potential in a professional league and he was dominant. Kubalik is a great player, but he's not worth moving Jarvis for. This makes some sense though. Suzuki is a great prospect, and Bean is sgtarting to become what he was projected to be. My only concern is that this deal may need to be done before the expansion draft to ensure that Carolina do not lose Bean to Seattle. If they do protect Bean, it's then likely they lose Hamilton which would mean Bean is far more desirable than previously thought. In terms of value and need, I like this deal a lot.
    May 15, 2021 at 8:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: slapshot30003
    Being a hawks fan, if I’m the flyers, you still need to give Patrick more time. His upside could still be very high, it’s too early to give up. Plus to it’s too early to give up for Murphy and strome.
    That still doesn’t make them a contender plus you give up a former #2 and a first rounder for it.
    Chicago would need to give up more in my opinion.
    Oh and I would suggest Stan make that trade for next years 1st rounder.
    Like I said it still doesn’t push philly over the hump so that could be a potential good pick. I’d rather have 2 chances next season vs this season.


    I disagree with most of this, but I respect the difference in opinion.
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    May 15, 2021 at 8:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    This Carolina trade is intriguing.

    Jarvis is off the table, in any deal right now short of like Eichel. He was so hot when he started in the AHL that we saw a flash of his potential in a professional league and he was dominant. Kubalik is a great player, but he's not worth moving Jarvis for. This makes some sense though. Suzuki is a great prospect, and Bean is sgtarting to become what he was projected to be. My only concern is that this deal may need to be done before the expansion draft to ensure that Carolina do not lose Bean to Seattle. If they do protect Bean, it's then likely they lose Hamilton which would mean Bean is far more desirable than previously thought. In terms of value and need, I like this deal a lot.


    Since both players are expansion exempt I think Carolina would love to have this deal before the expansion draft. However, assuming the previous moves are made it’s difficult to protect bean and for obvious reasons that’s a problem. I’m not sure what to do about that problem to be honest.
    May 15, 2021 at 9:24 a.m.
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    Canes decline
    May 15, 2021 at 9:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: slapshot30003
    Being a hawks fan, if I’m the flyers, you still need to give Patrick more time. His upside could still be very high, it’s too early to give up...

    From what the organization has said, they agree completely. This hypothetical trade is possible only if the rumor is true that Patrick wants a trade and Philly accommodates rather than keep an unhappy, struggling player. Having said that, it's an interesting proposal and some good thought went into it. I don't think I'd bite if I am CF, but I commend Stan_Bowman here for the creative proposal.
    May 15, 2021 at 10:43 a.m.
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    I like the philly deal but not the Car deal
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    May 15, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.
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    I don't see why we would trade Murphy. Defense is an issue for the Hawks as right now we have a bunch of bottom 3 prospect/players.

    Boqvist definitely isn't ready for 1st line duties, Stillman is a even worse solution, and Kalynuk is our best LHD prospect right now. kubalik is the 3rd best producer on the team right now.

    So we've given up 2 of our best defensive players in these trades (Kalynuk, and Murphy), our top 3 goal scorer (Kubalik), Strome for Nolan (who's shown way less then Strome), Bean (rather would have Kalynuk), Suzuki (unproven and less then a .5ppg player in the AHL), and the 13th overall pick in a horribly weak draft outside of the top 10? I don't get the logic. This team is easily worse then the team this past season for a gamble that Nolan figures it out, Suzuki who didn't look great in the AHL, Bean becomes a top liner and better then Kalynuk and a 13th OA in a weak draft. Hawks are taking all the risk here but I'm sure Carolina and Philly like it as such.
     
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