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2021 Playoffs Discussion Thread

Jul. 8, 2021 at 2:05 a.m.
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
Unless they changed the format I’m fairly certain the playoffs is

(1) A1 v WC
(2) A2 v A3
(3) M1 v WC
(4) M2 v M3
(5) P1 v WC
(6) P2 v P3
(7) C1 v WC
(8) C2 v C3

Winner of 1 vs Winner of 2
Winner of 3 vs Winner of 4
Winner of 5 vs Winner of 6, etc


Yeah that seems correct. So I had it wrong. Ima go edit it a bit.
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 2:12 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 8, 2021 at 2:27 a.m.
Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Who's Goglov?


A kid with the marlies who I think is going to get signed next year. He sighed a 2 year AHL deal last season. Really good offensive player who was not drafted due to skating issues. Also knows Robertson and SDA


Think of a low risk high reward kind of guy who could crack an nhl lineup in 2-3 years in a bottom 6 role. But man does this kid have a dangerous shot like wow
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 2:55 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
A kid with the marlies who I think is going to get signed next year. He sighed a 2 year AHL deal last season. Really good offensive player who was not drafted due to skating issues. Also knows Robertson and SDA


Think of a low risk high reward kind of guy who could crack an nhl lineup in 2-3 years in a bottom 6 role. But man does this kid have a dangerous shot like wow


They don't have his rights, though

Edit: I know they could still sign him, but other teams can too, I believe. Right?
Jul. 8, 2021 at 2:57 a.m.
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Wow, page 235 ... at least 5854 posts in this thread ... idk when it'll get locked, but this has been fun keeping up with this thread ... thank you, everyone!
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 4:02 a.m.
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Kucherov's agent said he played the entire series with a fractured rib.
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 4:05 a.m.
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
They don't have his rights, though

Edit: I know they could still sign him, but other teams can too, I believe. Right?


If he has a good AHL season then it all depends on where he wants to go

But I think leafs get first crack at getting him on an ELC as with him signed to the marlies dubas can just sign him to an ELC whenever

But if he wants to not sign and go to another team that can happen to next season (2022)
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 5:17 a.m.
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Yeah, a broken and unfair system, sorry TB fans but that's what this championship was about.


Montreal or Toronto would have to pay Kucherov 15m+ to pay him what Tampa pays him. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Bittman will never do anything to benefit the Canadian Teams though.
Jul. 8, 2021 at 6:19 a.m.
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Montreal or Toronto would have to pay Kucherov 15m+ to pay him what Tampa pays him. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Bittman will never do anything to benefit the Canadian Teams though.


And Toronto can give players Canadian Tire deals and give most of their contracts in bonuses. Yzermans don't grow on trees, not every GM can build a team like he did.
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 7:59 a.m.
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Saying hello from Grand Manan. I’m currently connected on a sh*ty island wi-fi. Congrats Tampa and Nill please do something smart for the first time in your life. I’m now leaving on a ferry.
Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:02 a.m.
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Kucherov was clearly drunk last night blasting Montreal fans for no reason and MAF ( I would’ve given the Vezina to Vasy too but come on Kuch ), if Kuch wants to be a hated player these comments + his antics will certainly get him there
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:07 a.m.
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Shut up I don’t need to hear this rn lol
Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:10 a.m.
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Kucherov was clearly drunk last night blasting Montreal fans for no reason and MAF ( I would’ve given the Vezina to Vasy too but come on Kuch ), if Kuch wants to be a hated player these comments + his antics will certainly get him there


What happened?

Also, at first I read MAF as Marc-Andre Fleury. tears of joy
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:19 a.m.
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What happened?

Also, at first I read MAF as Marc-Andre Fleury. tears of joy


Kuch said Habs fans celebrated like the won the cup after the game 4 wins, and said our finals was last round and said Vasy deserved the Vezina over Fleury, not even stating him from name just saying that guy from Vegas clearly under the influence
Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:22 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Kuch said Habs fans celebrated like the won the cup after the game 4 wins, and said our finals was last round and said Vasy deserved the Vezina over Fleury, not even stating him from name just saying that guy from Vegas clearly under the influence


WTF? Winning has brought out the nasty side of Kucherov.
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:22 a.m.
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Anyways, who was the first pass? I’m assuming Savard? Or did he give it to Hedman again?
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:26 a.m.
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Anyways, who was the first pass? I’m assuming Savard? Or did he give it to Hedman again?


Yeah I’m curious too
Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Anyways, who was the first pass? I’m assuming Savard? Or did he give it to Hedman again?


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Yeah I’m curious too


Hedman
Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: BulinWall
And Toronto can give players Canadian Tire deals and give most of their contracts in bonuses. Yzermans don't grow on trees, not every GM can build a team like he did.


That's legally not allowed to do. Tampa is legally allowed to do it because the NHL let's them. Yzerman is an amazing GM and he will turn Detroit into a Dynasty, but 0% state tax is definitely a big advantage. Bonus's have to do with the owners, not the team.
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Hedman


Weird. How soon did Savard get it?
Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:49 a.m.
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Weird. How soon did Savard get it?


I think he was 3rd. After Hedman
Jul. 8, 2021 at 8:49 a.m.
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And Toronto can give players Canadian Tire deals and give most of their contracts in bonuses.


Where are the facts to back up this statement? For all I know, TB is paying less money for its star players than Canadian teams do, and it has nothing to do with the negociation prowesses or the roster building skills of the GM.
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 9:13 a.m.
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WTF? Winning has brought out the nasty side of Kucherov.


Those comments + his on ice antics are going to make him a hated player
Jul. 8, 2021 at 9:36 a.m.
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New Rule the NHL should introduce:

Teams can be maximum $5M over the salary cap during the playoffs
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 9:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
New Rule the NHL should introduce:

Teams can be maximum $5M over the salary cap during the playoffs


Not even $5M$ imo. There's a cap or there's none, no in-betweens.
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Jul. 8, 2021 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
New Rule the NHL should introduce:

Teams can be maximum $5M over the salary cap during the playoffs


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Not even $5M$ imo. There's a cap or there's none, no in-betweens.


To make this work they’d also need to introduce a playoff taxi-squad sort of thing, because no one is going to be under the cap with 30 players on their roster.

The reason there’s no cap in the playoffs is because it makes the cap calculations super complicated, but also screws over teams depending on how deep they get into the playoffs. As well as the fact that the players don’t get paid during the playoffs. What they could do is introduce a 10% limit of going over like in the off-season, since accrual of cap space and cap hits in the playoffs is way too messy.

And as an aside, I think the arguments of how this happened before with Kane isn’t a good comparison, since Chicago didn’t plan for Kane to get injured. They surprisingly ended up with more cap space than they thought they’d have during the season, and used it to add a player to replace him (Which is the point of LTIR). Whereas the Lightning specifically timed Kucherov’s surgery so that he would miss the entire regular season, and their entire team and off-season was built around the fact that they’d have Kucherov off the books for the entire year.
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